New Giant Twist Models

eddieo

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a little more info here

probably not enough of the nitty gritty here either for you guy's....:) Strange that they produce quite a nice PDF brochure with no technical detail!

but I like the look of these, with the front hub as well to spread (my) weight a bit.......but I guess no throttle. So the quest continues. but they have a local retailer near to me in London. Will call them tomorrow

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/backoffice/_upload_us/bikes/models/brochure/2009/6-08hybridbroch.pdf

and a review and video here:

Giant Twist Freedom DX Electric Bike Test Drive: A Flying Good Time (With Video!) - Popular Mechanics


I am sure there would be interest if someone could offer a service to "mod" these style bikes and add a throttle. No need for a twist grip just a couple of buttons would do....
 
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burncycle

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A good brand and a nice looking bike.
I really like that type of crossbar on a ebike.
I dont know why all the other ebike suppliers dont make the ebikes with this type of crossbar.
They would only have to provide the one bike with the one croosbar, cus the design is truely unisex.

Thanks for that.

Bob.
 

flecc

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It's basically the same Twist again as the 1 and 2 models. The same Sanyo motor and controller, and the same twin 24 volt pannier batteries. Whether they've managed to up the lacklustre performance or not, I don't know, but I have my doubts with this high drag motor which has no internal freewheel.
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eddieo

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It's basically the same Twist again as the 1 and 2 models. The same Sanyo motor and controller, and the same twin 24 volt pannier batteries. Whether they've managed to up the lacklustre performance or not, I don't know, but I have my doubts with this high drag motor which has no internal freewheel.
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That's a shame as they looked promising.....The quest continues;)
 

eddieo

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That's a shame as they looked promising.....The quest continues;)
why is it that A-B mag rates the now defunct Giant Layfee as probably the best E bike ever?

I have contacted the chap at local retailer in Camberwell and he will get back to me with some more technical info next week....

What a missed opportunity! Giant are a large manufacturer surely with the resources to really pull something out of the bag, with a little more effort.:mad:

But as they include absolutely no technical detail. Not even the weight in there glossy brochure - I wont be holding my breath.......:confused:
 

flecc

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This has cropped uo a few times before Eddie.

Giant got their first ebike, called the Lafree, very wrong, too heavy and moped like. For their second attempt they retained the Dutch Lafree people to design the cycle side and used the Panasonic motor unit and battery, so Giant themselves played virtually no part. That was the successful model.

With the inefficiencies that large companies have when handling very small markets, Giant never managed to make a profit on those bikes and finally packed in the series. Their new attempt was a budget e-bike, the Suede, designed by themselves and using a long defunct US designed hub motor that was built by Sanyo. Their idea was that a cheaper bike (£600) would create a mass market, but of course it didn't so again it was a no profit venture. Not only that, the bike was flawed in some respects anyway, mainly through economies imposed.

So they've now tried to make a profit from electrics by upgrading the same bike twice (first as the Argue, then as the new Twist) and switching from a one battery 36 volt system to a twin battery 24 volt system, more than doubling the price at the same time. The result is that they are still flawed and aren't selling, some dealers heavily discounting just to get rid of them from stock. One member had a dealer shocked at him even asking about them and advised him not to buy!

The conclusion has to be that they aren't the right company to make e-bikes, and I think they should stick to the ordinary bikes they do best and only return to e-bikes when it becomes a big market and they can throw big money into getting it right.

You can read of their e-bike history on my website link.
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Bikerbob

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Pity Giant can't get it right, whatever the reasons. Let's hope the new Powabyke is all that is hoped to be (as mentioned another current thread). If I can try a bike and buy it locally I'd do that rather than order a potentialy better bike untried by mail order. I see that Powabyke are inviting people to register on their website so that they can be informed when their local dealer gets the bike in stock. Seems sensible marketing.