Norman Baker, Lib Dem Transport Minister, screws cyclists again

dmcgoldrick

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Aug 17, 2010
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i seem to remember our new prime minister, when in opposition used to ride his bike all the time !!!!
in london i notice lots of bike lanes, the boris bike hire system, and is the cycle to work scheme still in operation ?

up here the cycle to work scheme was cancelled early this year by our local council ' because it was too popular !!!! ' and that was before anyone was talking about cuts. also the so called 5% at the end of the payment term was changed to 'market value'...so in the end the scheme was more expensive.
cycle lanes were started but went 'nowhere', and are just used for car parking !!!!!

help for cycling....not a chance........
buy an qualifying electric car....£5000 of tax payers money !!!!!
i like the £80,000 sports car that qualifies...swop that for my e bike anyday !
 

Ultra Motor

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we have a motorhome with large garage that takes 4 bikes, have visited every year for a month the last 4 years..... We have a favourite spot at Lake Garda. So we have a week in Switzerland, 2 weeks on Lake, then 1 week touring there and back......
Sounds great Eddie- I'm jealous!
 

Ultra Motor

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Ultra Motor

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i seem to remember our new prime minister, when in opposition used to ride his bike all the time !!!!
in london i notice lots of bike lanes, the boris bike hire system, and is the cycle to work scheme still in operation ?

up here the cycle to work scheme was cancelled early this year by our local council ' because it was too popular !!!! ' and that was before anyone was talking about cuts. also the so called 5% at the end of the payment term was changed to 'market value'...so in the end the scheme was more expensive.
cycle lanes were started but went 'nowhere', and are just used for car parking !!!!!

help for cycling....not a chance........
buy an qualifying electric car....£5000 of tax payers money !!!!!
i like the £80,000 sports car that qualifies...swop that for my e bike anyday !
Your spot on! Boris is the guy that is really making the most changes. The cycle lanes, bike scheme - London really is getting geared up (excuse the pun!) for cycling. Lets hope this spreads across the nation. Certainly here in Bristol its a bicycle rush hour at times- its great!
 

flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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Your spot on! Boris is the guy that is really making the most changes. The cycle lanes, bike scheme - London really is getting geared up (excuse the pun!) for cycling. Lets hope this spreads across the nation. Certainly here in Bristol its a bicycle rush hour at times- its great!
Sad though that Ken Livingstone isn't getting any of the credit. It was Ken who produced budgets of up to £50 millions per annum in London for cycling, over 8 years producing our network of cyclepaths, bike racks and shelters all over London. In addition was the range of 19 free maps of London's cycle routes in all libraries and many other outlets.

The cycling Superhighways were Ken's idea, as was the bike hire scheme, both to be introduced by him if he won the last mayoral election, Boris just taking them over and now getting the credit. How many now praising him for these are aware that immediately after his election he cut the London Cycling budget by £20 millions per annum? Obviously very few.

And it was Ken who introduced the Congestion Charge against huge opposition that has doubled the incidence of Cycling in London.

None of what I've said above is political sour grapes since I've mainly been a Tory voter throughout my life. I'm just giving credit where it's really due and putting the record straight.

The credit due to Boris as a cyclist is in continuing with the Ken Livingstone schemes and resisting the temptation to scrap them, which would have been politically expedient.
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Ultra Motor

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Sad though that Ken Livingstone isn't getting any of the credit. It was Ken who produced budgets of up to £50 millions per annum in London for cycling, over 8 years producing our network of cyclepaths, bike racks and shelters all over London. In addition was the range of 19 free maps of London's cycle routes in all libraries and many other outlets.

The cycling Superhighways were Ken's idea, as was the bike hire scheme, both to be introduced by him if he won the last mayoral election, Boris just taking them over and now getting the credit. How many now praising him for these are aware that immediately after his election he cut the London Cycling budget by £20 millions per annum? Obviously very few.

And it was Ken who introduced the Congestion Charge against huge opposition that has doubled the incidence of Cycling in London.

None of what I've said above is political sour grapes since I've mainly been a Tory voter throughout my life. I'm just giving credit where it's really due and putting the record straight.

The credit due to Boris as a cyclist is in continuing with the Ken Livingstone schemes and resisting the temptation to scrap them, which would have been politically expedient.
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Flecc- I stand corrected :) Ken did put in a lot of effort, Boris has timing on his side and a great PR firm! ;)
 

flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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Flecc- I stand corrected :) Ken did put in a lot of effort, Boris has timing on his side and a great PR firm! ;)
Indeed, and Boris is a great self publicist, aided by his class act of bumbling idiocy. If journalism and politics had failed him, he could have been a very popular stand-up comic in the mould of the late great Tommy Cooper, just like that!
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jasono

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Sep 19, 2009
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And this is from the 'greenest government ever'... to quote the coalition... time to contact our local mp's methinks