Oxygen vs Alien vs Wisper

MikeW

Finding my (electric) wheels
Aug 4, 2010
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Hampshire
I've been researching e-bikes for a couple of months now and need a bit of help arriving at a final decision having eliminated a lot of models/companies due to issues with build quality, aesthetics, reliability, range, weight, modes of operation, customer service, etc.

I live in Hampshire and have an 18 mile rural round trip commute (all hedge-lined, largely empty back roads, some long inclines/hills, but not get-off-and-walk ones on a good day). I cycle it today only occasionally (for all the usual reasons/excuses), but it would become routine if I had an e-bike. I want one that works in throttle-only mode (as well as pedal-assist) and that can comfortably cope with the commute range/type every day. I'm fairly tall (6'1" / 33" inside leg), in my 40s and don't own any lycra. I'm also not a great one for "adjusting" - I want a bike that will make me happy out of the box without having to swap out components.

On the bike I'll be carrying a laptop, some waterproof gear, a few papers and wallet, keys, etc, so will need panniers. My budget is flexible -- I was planning for £800 to £1,300-ish. Without getting into a legal/moral debate, I imagine that my normal route is unlikely to attract much official attention if I stray over 15mph occasionally and it would be nice to have something in reserve for the hills.

I'm tempted by the Oxygen e-mate, but I've recently come across Alien Bikes on the web and the (cheaper, faster) Aurora sounds interesting (the Apollo does too, but is a more scary proposition). I am concerned that I won't be able to try an Alien before purchase and haven't seen enough reviews to give me the right degree of confidence to just order one. My fall-back choice is probably a Wisper 905, though this is even more expensive than the similar-looking Oxygen.

I'd really appreciate any advice, particularly from owners of the above bikes who have insight into their suitability/reliability/actual performance, etc.

Thanks in advance.
 

Scatty

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Jan 15, 2009
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I would look into the Giant (Rs2 if on a budget) range as well if your after quality, I can pedal along on mine 17mph with the motor still giving me assistence its the best thing i ever bought. i too spent months looking at everything (alot of bikes) that is out there & for me the giant stood out for quality & my local shop poweredbicycles look after me very well not that ive needed them because nothing as gone wrong :D
 

MikeW

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Aug 4, 2010
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Hampshire
I thought they were pedal-assist only (correct?), which I have ruled out on my way to the shortlist...
 

flecc

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Yes, Giant models are pedelec only, as all new e-bikes will be shortly when the legal amendments are completed.
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overlander

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Apr 22, 2009
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I had a test of both the wisper 905se and the Alien Aurora, they are very different, night and day in fact. But you have to remember that one is legal and one is not so we are not comparing like for like. But firstly height, the aurora is built for people our height, the wisper was ok but the aurora was much bigger. Now on throttle only the wisper was like a beast of burden under my 19 stone weight on anything other than perfect level roads. On the other hand the aurora would blast up hills without any hesitation.

If you decide you are willing to go down the illegal route there really is no comparison.
 

Old Timer

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Dec 5, 2009
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I own an Aurora, great bike, great power and all great out of the box. Large frame that would do you nicely at your height. I`m 5`10" with an inside leg of 31" and I have the seat with suspension post down to it`s lowest position so you would probably lift an inch or two from the bottm. It`s a 21" frame and very sturdy with decent built in lights. Low power setting for poodling along at around 10mph, med power for normal commute speed of up to 17-18mph and high power for steep hills or in a hurry at over 25mph on the flat. Of course it has a 350Wat motor that isn`t legal but the bike looks just like a normal 250Watt version so to be honest I don`t think it would be a problem.

I had an Oxygen on test for two weeks and it was a dream bike, nicely finished with really good running gear and a superb light Li-polymer 13Amp battery that is around half the weight of most Li-ion 10Amp batteries. The bike is very light and Andrew will always do his best to give you the very best support. At your height you will probably need an adjustable stem to lift the bars a touch but if my memory serves me right Andrew has some in stock so twist his arm. Let me just say that the Oxygen is more of a sporty bike that really shines when you are prepared to put in some of your own effort. I think the running gear etc will last for a very long time and the battery should be good for at least 40 miles (some are getting 50 miles every day) plus a long warranty.

I`ve never ridden an actual Wisper but do have a clone called Powertrek (which is actually a first generation Oxygen) from what I gather it rides very like a Wisper and to be honest I absolutely love riding it, It is a very comfortable frame(19") and turns in nicely on bends. The only downside to mine is a battery that was only good for 20-25 miles but of course Wisper offer a high powered 14Amp battery that is supposed to be very good and of course the back up from Wisper is very good.

I also own a 25 year old Evans MTB that I converted to a 250Watt Alien front wheel kit and apart from being light it really is a dream to ride. It is a Chrome Moly frame with no suspension but deals with the road a treat.

So! what would I use for a commute? Either my Evans with my Oxygen 13Amp battery or the Aurora becuase it can really make up time if you are late or get delayed.

Hope it helps

Dave
 

Vikki

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jan 12, 2009
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Since I use my Wisper for A to B travel and go full throttle all the way with light pedalling the frame size hasn't bothered me. Since I'm not putting any real power into the pedals I don't worry with things like leg extension (like I have to on Prowler). :D

Vikki.
 

rustic

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May 31, 2008
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Trivial point Dave, but where is the rear light on the Aurora? I really liked the integrated light on the GSII, but it seems to be no more :(

In relation to the original post - At your height I would really recommend a larger frame size - the 21" offered by Alien would seem to fit the bill perfectly in that respect. As for after sales service I can't fault the guys at Alien, they've always been swift to respond to any difficulties I've had. If you're really worried about the road legal aspect it might be worth checking the classifieds / ebay for an Alien GSII, this again would offer a 21" frame, mine cruises on throttle only on the flat at around 16.5 mph and provided the battery was in good order you could save a fair few quid given the original retail of these bikes last year was only £579-£599.
 

MikeW

Finding my (electric) wheels
Aug 4, 2010
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Hampshire
Thanks for all your help - it was very useful. I'm off to Richmond to try the Oxygen, but it sounds like the Aurora might be worth a punt.
 

Old Timer

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Dec 5, 2009
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Trivial point Dave, but where is the rear light on the Aurora? I really liked the integrated light on the GSII, but it seems to be no more :(

In relation to the original post - At your height I would really recommend a larger frame size - the 21" offered by Alien would seem to fit the bill perfectly in that respect. As for after sales service I can't fault the guys at Alien, they've always been swift to respond to any difficulties I've had. If you're really worried about the road legal aspect it might be worth checking the classifieds / ebay for an Alien GSII, this again would offer a 21" frame, mine cruises on throttle only on the flat at around 16.5 mph and provided the battery was in good order you could save a fair few quid given the original retail of these bikes last year was only £579-£599.

The rear light is under the rear rack at the back, it has a 36V 5 watt bulb and is very bright. The front light is a 6 LED one and again is bright.

Dave
 

Old Timer

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Dec 5, 2009
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Thanks for all your help - it was very useful. I'm off to Richmond to try the Oxygen, but it sounds like the Aurora might be worth a punt.
How did you get on with the Oxygen Mike?
 

MikeW

Finding my (electric) wheels
Aug 4, 2010
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Hampshire
I tried the Oxygen at 50cycles. The shop was great - very helpful, knowledgeable and in a great location for test rides into Richmond Park. However, I found the E-mate underwhelming. It is a bit small for me (I tried one of 50cycles' Kalkhoffs for comparison and it was a much more comfortable ride), but the main disappointment was the lack of a feeling of power in both throttle-only and assisted mode. I don't think it is necessarily a fault of the bike, more that the 15mph limit is, well, very limiting. It might have been different if it could do that going up a gentle hill (Richmond Park is hardly mountainous) rather than the single-digit speeds it managed (used a GPS device as a speedo). For that reason, based on what I've heard, the Alien Aurora might get the vote.
 

Tim

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Nov 1, 2006
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I tried the Oxygen at 50cycles. The shop was great - very helpful, knowledgeable and in a great location for test rides into Richmond Park. However, I found the E-mate underwhelming. It is a bit small for me (I tried one of 50cycles' Kalkhoffs for comparison and it was a much more comfortable ride), but the main disappointment was the lack of a feeling of power in both throttle-only and assisted mode. I don't think it is necessarily a fault of the bike, more that the 15mph limit is, well, very limiting. It might have been different if it could do that going up a gentle hill (Richmond Park is hardly mountainous) rather than the single-digit speeds it managed (used a GPS device as a speedo). For that reason, based on what I've heard, the Alien Aurora might get the vote.
I'll check the battery level on that bike tomorrow as the Oxygen is usually quite feisty! Glad you like the shop though, thank you for visiting.
 

MikeW

Finding my (electric) wheels
Aug 4, 2010
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Hampshire
FYI - I bought the Aurora. Took it for a short spin today. First impressions: very good. It's sturdy, well laid out and it's got some poke, but it weighs as much as two bikes and you definitely wouldn't want to run out of power part way through your commute...

Review to follow once I've put it through its paces. Thanks to everyone for their advice.

Mike