Pedelec Law - The Details

flecc

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I think there needs to be a change in the legislation to allow electric switch power button to allow a pedal assist bike to be allowed to do up to 15MPH under power without pedals .
The problem once again is, what defines a bicycle and separates it from a motor vehicle?

The objective was to provide assistance for cycling, not replace cycling, so from the outset here in Europe and elsewhere it was decided that was the need to pedal to make progress. Therefore pedalling was necessary to allow the power.

We've always had what you want here and throughout the EU, the low powered moped class L1e-A, which is bicycle based like EAPCs, even allowed up to 1000 watts rating but still restricted to 15.5 mph. But because they are no longer assisted bicycles they are subject to some motor vehicle law, depending which country. Here that means number plate, insurance, driving licence etc and that will not change in our nanny state.

And as Matthew points out above, much more recently we were allowed the dodge of type approving any of our EAPCs. This technically makes them motor vehicles but with a UK only concession that we dont have to comply with motor vehicle law when riding here. It has the inconvenience of either taking the EAPC to a testing station to get the check and exemption certificate or paying more to get one with the supplier doing that for you.

So forget getting the EAPC law changed, it cannot happen when there's already two existing ways to get what you want.
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Baz the balloon man

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That can, if I remember rightly, already be achieved using the 'single vehicle approval' process.
Hi Mathew .
Yes I have seen posts on here about that but it’s all a bit of a faff having to go get a test ECT.

I am talking about a law change that will allow kits to do this or factory manufactured bikes as standard without any red tape .

I am still unsure if my current YOSE kit which is set in the LCD to road legal speed and thumb switch but it can be changed in minutes to an illegal setting by any one who knows how to do it .

I recently bought Two on sale or SH kits from YOSE which as far as I can see are new and unused but they have now taken away the advanced settings and the ability to change the speed setting .

I am now assuming that my own kit that can be changed by anyone may be illegal or at best could lead to a day in court even if when stopped it’s set at road legal speeds ?
 

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The problem once again is, what defines a bicycle and separates it from a motor vehicle?

The objective was to provide assistance for cycling, not replace cycling, so from the outset here in Europe and elsewhere it was decided that was the need to pedal to make progress. Therefore pedalling was necessary to allow the power.

We've always had what you want here and throughout the EU, the low powered moped class L1e-A, which is bicycle based like EAPCs, even allowed up to 1000 watts rating but still restricted to 15.5 mph. But because they are no longer assisted bicycles they are subject to some motor vehicle law, depending which country. Here that means number plate, insurance, driving licence etc and that will not change in our nanny state.

And as Matthew points out above, much more recently we were allowed the dodge of type approving any of our EAPCs. This technically makes them motor vehicles but with a UK only concession that we dont have to comply with motor vehicle law when riding here. It has the inconvenience of either taking the EAPC to a testing station to get the check and exemption certificate or paying more to get one with the supplier doing that for you.

So forget getting the EAPC law changed, it cannot happen when there's already two existing ways to get what you want.
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Hi Flecc
thanks for the in depth explanation I see why this has come about now the point where a bike becomes a motor vehicle, but I feel the law is a bit outdated now with the latest technology , and I suspect that some of these laws date back to when bikes had small combustion engines fitted during the First World War with number plates ECT.

I actually remember there where a lot of moped bikes around in the 1970s with pedals they went out of fashion but now with the latest technology in electric assisted bikes and going back to my first post I can see no logic in not allowing a 15MPH power switch without any further red tape attached and the ability to have on road and private land settings if that’s what one wants.

After all if someone takes a standard motor car and soups it up as long as they tell there insurance company no one can do any thing about it .

we are talking about bikes that can do 15MPH without use of pedals not the most dangerous things on the road are they !

In very low gears you can make a bike go like a power switch any way with very little effort I have now worked out after riding everywhere in Top Gear and eventually realising I was making hard work of things .

But then when I was a kid my Raleigh Chopper was mostly stuck in third gear most of the time .
 

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I am still unsure if my current YOSE kit which is set in the LCD to road legal speed and thumb switch but it can be changed in minutes to an illegal setting by any one who knows how to do it .
My understanding (which could well be wrong) is that is OK (as long as you don't change the settings); that is as long as it won't assist unless you are pedalling and going under 15.5 mph. The switch is then effectively a shortcut to get into max power mode.

It is not legal to have a bike operating within the 15.5mph if there is a 'switch' that can break the 15.5mph or pedal requirement limitations. The issue is what is a 'switch'; I understand that a switch is something that can be operated while riding, so a setting that takes minutes and can't be done while riding is OK.
 
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My understanding (which could well be wrong) is that is OK (as long as you don't change the settings); that is as long as it won't assist unless you are pedalling and going under 15.5 mph. The switch is then effectively a shortcut to get into max power mode.

It is not legal to have a bike operating within the 15.5mph if there is a 'switch' that can break the 15.5mph or pedal requirement limitations. The issue is what is a 'switch'; I understand that a switch is something that can be operated while riding, so a setting that takes minutes and can't be done while riding is OK.
Hi Sjpt

Thanks that’s sounds promising and makes sense ie a LCD screen is not a switch it’s a setting that really you would have to stop and change and in more than One menu.

I wonder if one day cars and motor bikes will be limited to actual speed limits and limited as to how fast they are allowed to accelerate .
and only allowed to have any type of motor that can not break a speed limit.

After all why buy a sports car that can potentially do 150 MPH if you are then not allowed do so and use it to its full potential .
wow 15MPH using a button on a bike. public enemy number one at that breakneck speed !!! We are
 

flecc

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thanks for the in depth explanation I see why this has come about now the point where a bike becomes a motor vehicle, but I feel the law is a bit outdated now with the latest technology , and I suspect that some of these laws date back to when bikes had small combustion engines fitted during the First World War with number plates ECT.
Lots of corrections necessary. EAPC law is modern (6th April 2015) and not related to IC engines in any way. All petrol assisted bicycles always had to be registered as motorcycles and mostly ridden with a full motor cycles licence, there was no separate assisted bicycle law back then. You have the wrong war too, the first petrol motors for bicycles arrived in the 1940s after WW2.

now with the latest technology in electric assisted bikes and going back to my first post I can see no logic in not allowing a 15MPH power switch without any further red tape attached and the ability to have on road and private land settings if that’s what one wants.
It isn't about the technology, safety is primarily about the rider and EAPC riders haven't been tested in any way. So they cannot be allowed motor vehicle legal conditions. e.g. Over 15.5 mph assistance etc. That is the official and only logic.

You can have any private land setting you wish, but ONLY on private land, and there is very little of that anywhere.

After all if someone takes a standard motor car and soups it up as long as they tell there insurance company no one can do any thing about it .
See above, that driver has been tested and approved and they face huge penalties, including prison, if they break the law. And anyone they hurt is covered by insurance, if necessary to many millions of lifetime support. You cannot compare that to anyone of any abilities on an overpowered and over speed, uninsured assisted bike and who might be a hooligan or even criminally mental

we are talking about bikes that can do 15MPH without use of pedals not the most dangerous things on the road are they !
Bikes at 15mph have killed many times and you were speaking of higher speeds anyway.

The beauty of bicycles in law is that they are often rider self correcting. The road bike rider who rides at 25 mph and more and will probably be very fit and relatively young so is likely to have reactions, eyesight and hearing to suit.

As they get older they are less able to pedal to higher speeds, suiting their declining reactions, eyesight and hearing.

Giving them power assistance then with too much leeway messes up that natural balance, enabling them to ride at super fit roadie style speeds with all the dangers that brings.

That alone justifies the law keeping unlicenced riders to moderate speeds when powered.
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15mph on the road is as you say unthreatening, but EAPCs have the privilege of cycle path use where they are in effect the 'aggressor'. Often even 5mph is too fast there: riding has to be highly variable in speed to give safety to more vulnerable users, and that needs to be done in good grace.

Highly unlikely at present that any roadside inspection will do any more that check max assist speed, the detail of how settings can be changed probably won't come up.
 

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Lots of corrections necessary. EAPC law is modern (6th April 2015) and not related to IC engines in any way. All petrol assisted bicycles always had to be registed as motorcycles and mostly ridden with a full motor cycles licence, there was no separate assisted bicycle law back then. You have the wrong war too, the first petrol motors for bicycles arrived in the 1940s after WW2.



It isn't about the technology, safety is primarily about the rider and EAPC riders haven't been tested in any way. So they cannot be allowed motor vehicle legal conditions. e.g. Over 15.5 mph assistance etc. That is the official and only logic.

You can have any private land setting you wish, but ONLY on private land, and there is very little of that anywhere.



See above, that driver has been tested and approved and they face huge penalties, including prison, if they break the law. And anyone they hurt is covered by insurance, if necessary to many millions of lifetime support. You cannot compare that to anyone of any abilities on an overpowered and over speed, uninsured assisted bike and who might be a hooligan or even criminally mental



Bikes at 15mph have killed many times and you were speaking of higher speeds anyway.

The beauty of bicycles in law is that they are often rider self correcting. The road bike rider who rides at 25 mph and more and will probably be very fit and relatively young so is likely to have reactions, eyesight and hearing to suit.

As they get older they are less able to pedal to higher speeds, suiting their declining reactions, eyesight and hearing.

Giving them power assistance then with too much leeway messes up that natural balance, enabling them to ride at super fit roadie style speeds with all the dangers that brings.

That alone justifies the law keeping unlicenced riders to moderate speeds when powered.
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I would say motorised bicycles became popular before both World Wars. Bicycles with engines came before motorcycles it was only people wanting more power that made the motorcycle more popular than motor bicycles. After WW2 people wanted cheap personal transport, hence the resurgence of the motor bicycle.
As for whether pressing a button a few times constitutes it being a switch remains questionable. I have to press my rear light 5 times to get it to stay on and my phone requires numerous button presses to switch different functions on or off. Perhaps the BBC could make a program clarifying the law on this and other parts of the pedelec law. Imagine the outcry when they realise all e-bikes put out more than 250w.
 

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wow 15MPH using a button on a bike. public enemy number one at that breakneck speed !!! We are
Why do you need a throttle anyway? PAS is so much better and much more comfortable.

As it has been pointed out few times, you can have legal throttle if you want it that much, so where is the problem?
 

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I would say motorised bicycles became popular before both World Wars. Bicycles with engines came before motorcycles it was only people wanting more power that made the motorcycle more popular than motor bicycles. After WW2 people wanted cheap personal transport, hence the resurgence of the motor bicycle.
And once again people wanting more power, so the scooters from Vespa, Lambretta etcetera quickly killed off the assisted bicycle from the mid 1950s!

I'm aware of those early ones you illustrated but discount them since few were still realistically usable as bicycles, and so many used a clumsy powered third wheel. Plus electric assisted bicycles came before most of them. Humber even had an e-assisted tandem in the 1890s, but the electric ones were mostly just as impractical due to lead acid battery weights and sizes.

Later in the 1920s and '30s the industry stopped trying convince the petrol powered ones were still bicycles and changed to calling them Autocycles with more weight and less bicycle like design.

It wasn't until the 1940s as said when ordinary bicycles with add-on assistance petrol motors were still fully usable as practical bicycles alone.
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I'm just short of 80 years old, and I can't imagine starting from a standing start without a throttle....my wife has a Freego Regency dated 2014....throttle legal.....I have the same bike....2018..throttle is illegal......a nonsense.........
 

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I'm just short of 80 years old, and I can't imagine starting from a standing start without a throttle....my wife has a Freego Regency dated 2014....throttle legal.....I have the same bike....2018..throttle is illegal......a nonsense.........
You can legally have throttle from a standing start on any EAPC, but only up to 4mph to get you rolling. After that the power has to be maintained by pedalling.
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Perhaps the BBC could make a program clarifying the law on this and other parts of the pedelec law. Imagine the outcry when they realise all e-bikes put out more than 250w.
The biggest fuss would be from the moped interests. They are well aware of the true EAPC power situation but happy so long as it is presented as 250 watts, which is why they agreed to it originally.
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Baz the balloon man

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I think many of you will be aware of what a complex subject electric assist bicycle law is and pitfalls in trying to second guess it. As a result, and with my knowledge of it since joining the trade 70 years ago, I'm often called upon in here to give answers on the subject. But of course I won't always be around and being at the Covid-19 peak vulnerability age I thought it best I record all the information links, clarifications and sources for others to get any answers they need on this subject. Some of necessity is on my web space and I'm making arrangements to ensure that stays online for a decade to make this post a reliable source to bookmark for the pedelec law sources and clarification details.

A legal, bureaucracy free pedelec is a bicycle and never a motor vehicle in relation to any usage laws. Thus laws intended specifically for motor vehicles like national speed limits never apply. There are many local authority and private premises limits that can apply to all bicycles though, and the UK lower age limit of 14 years for riding a pedelec.

1983 EAPC law, only now valid combined with amendments from the 2015 law below

6th April 2015 revisions to EAPC law

Clarification from the above link on the specification plate required on pedelecs

Plate (a) (i) is only for the historic e-bikes from before 6th April 2015.
Plate (a) (ii) is for all pedelecs since that date.

Confirmed as below by James Brown, International Vehicle Standards, Department for Transport:

"As part of the GB EAPC amending legislation, that will come into force on 6 April 2015, the requirement for the marking identification has been amended. Previously a plate showing the manufacturer, maximum continuous rated power output and voltage was necessary, from April 6 2015 the requirement will be that the manufacturer, maximum continuous rated output and maximum assisted cutoff speed shall be marked on the cycle."

This should be in the form of a plate or permanent label bearing all three items of information, mounted in a prominent easily read location on the bicycle.

The 14 years minimum age limit law for riding a pedelec:

Northern Ireland has its own Road Traffic jurisdiction,
though they mainly follow ours. The mainland UK 1983 law as amended by the 2015 law were only adopted from 13th May 2020 in Northern Ireland. They already had the 14 years lowest age limit to ride pedelecs via our above 1988 RTA which they adopted there in their 1995 RTA. They also have the same EU regulations.

Original 2003 Motor Vehicle Type approval law with pedelecs exemption from being a motor vehicle in Article 2.2. (h):

Same thing but 2013 integrated version:

You don't need but may also desire a copy of BS1727 to understand the motor and battery testing and proof of compliance that originally supported the manufacturers data plate declaration of older e-bikes, but I can't let you have that or give you a link, as you need to pay a lot of money for it! It's not necessary to have this though.

The UK is also signed up to the relevant European technical standards for pedelecs, EN15194.
It's what really matters technically. You can download it to read on the link below in my web site:

Also, you may need the Construction & Use regulations for all bicycles, assisted or not:

Walk Assist Throttle
Although the EU has it's own walk assist law with 6kph (3.6 mph) limit, the UK's permitted Walk Assist throttle conditions such as the 4 mph assist limit and use of a self returning thumb throttle were derived from the UK law on pedestrian controlled vehicles which is in multiple parts in various laws relating to motor vehicles. The use of a walk throttle to get away from a standstill without pedalling while on board appears to be illegal, since a rider either seated on a bike or with a foot on a pedal as in scooting is not a pedestrian, as ruled by Waller L J in the Court of Appeal, (Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441). The many complexities that can occur in passing such legislation you might find interesting or just plain irritating in the debate in the House of Lords on the link below:

National law on conditional use of all bicycles on the pavements: (two Links)

Law permitting riding bicycles and pedelecs on Bridlepaths/ Bridleways:

This Countryside Act 1968 unusually only covered two wheeled bicycles, whereas most UK Bicycle law refers to Bicycles, Tricycles and Bicycles with four or more wheels. However, the government backed SUSTRANS organisation has since gained permission for pedelec Tricycles to use bridlepaths too. Still no permission for Quad pedelecs though.

Getting legal permission to have a fully acting "Twist and Go" throttle on a pedelec:

The Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval test now includes a sub-category for "Twist and go" electric bikes, which require type approval as Single Vehicle Approval (SVA), but which can otherwise be used like other normal pedelecs. Fewer modifications will now be needed for these machines to pass the test and gain type approval. The MSVA test costs £55 per individual vehicle.

Each individual bike must pass the Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval (MSVA) test. This provides UK-specific type approval (i.e. it is not valid in other EU countries) and the DfT regard these as legal bureaucracy free pedelecs.

The new class for Twist & Go EAPCs is called "250W LPM", a sub-category of the standard "Low Powered Moped", which is the L1e-A category which T&G EAPCs fell into before. The new edition of the test manual reduces the requirements somewhat for this new sub-category. For example, a kickstand is still required, but it does not have to auto-retract. Moped-like mirrors are now not required, etc., etc. Basically almost any legal pedelec meets the requirements, but check the PDF manual linked to below:


Grandfather Rights
The old 1983 EAPC regulations did not specify how pedelec power was to be applied, leaving the door open for any method including fully acting throttles. However the 2015 amendments to EU law barred such throttles, power only allowed by pedalling to be truly assist in nature. By convention though, existing machines from before 1st January 2016 had Grandfather Rights to remain as they were, this confirmed by a prior DfT statement of intentions at a joint consultation meeting with the industry and police on 13th April 2013.
HOWEVER
Be aware that to claim Grandfather Rights the pedelec should conform to the 1983 law in its entirety, and that means an assist power rating of 200 watts or less. Unfortunately most of the e-bikes supplied in the UK from the early 2000s to 2016 were 250 watts rated like the current law as a result of a DfT error in 2003, so technically they cannot legally have Grandfather Rights. However this legal nicety is unlikely to be a subject for challenge by any authority since the DfT didn't specify it when describing Grandfather Rights in that meeting. For the details on that 2003 DfT error see below:

The Evolution of a Power Rating problem

Back at 9th May 2003 the EU issued the two and three wheeled type approval law 2002/24/EU which contained the 2.2.(h) exemption for pedelecs to not be considered motor vehicles and thus remain bicycles. That specified these conditions to benefit from the exemption:

"(h) pedal cycles with pedal assistance which are equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous rated power of less than or equal to 250 W, where the output of the motor is cut off when the cyclist stops pedalling and is otherwise progressively reduced and finally cut off before the vehicle speed reaches 25 km/h "

That type approval law was mandatory for all EU member nations and the regulation was accompanied by an order that all conflicting national law had to be removed within six months. Our UK law did conflict since it limited power to 200 watts, but the DfT passed the new EU regulation into law through parliament on 10th November 2003 without removing our conflicting law. The mandatory order is no longer available online from the EU but I copied and pasted the text and you can read it on this link:
www.pedelecs.co.uk/flecc/eu_directive.rtf

So from then on we appeared to have two conflicting laws, the UK law saying 200 watts, the EU 250 watts. In fact as an EU member the EU law always took precedence in our courts, but the DfT when asked wrongly said it was a matter for the courts in their muddled October 2005 document below:
www.pedelecs.co.uk/flecc/EAPC_guidelines.pdf

From 1999 the Japanese makers like Yamaha and Panasonic had wrongly assumed Britain also had EU law at that time, so supplied 250 watts anyway, with the Chinese and others following likewise, hence the twelve year legal tangle from 2003 to 2015.

E-Scooters
At the time of writing it appears these may be given limited legalisation shortly, but meanwhile machines resembling a child's scooter, but which are fitted with either an electric motor or an internal combustion engine, have been determined by two High Court judgements to be motor vehicles within the meaning of The Road Traffic Act 1988. Therefore not electric assist bikes. You will see this on page three in the EAPC guidelines linked to just above.

Kit Motors
Be aware that hardly any of the above applies to kits or any home construction, the regulations only being for manufactured pedelecs. So both individuals and suppliers operate in a legal vacuum in which all try to supply and/or use as closely conforming to the complete e-bike law as they can, trusting that is acceptable. That has always worked throughout all of Europe and the UK without any mention of a possible prosecution, providing the three main points of the law are adhered to, i.e. 250 watts maximum assist, 15.5 mph maximum assist speed and power only when pedalling.

However, I can tell you the legal way of dealing with a kit, athough no-one has ever done it:

1) Buy and fit the motor kit.
2) Make an appointment at an approved vehicle testing station, paying the £55 test fee.
3) Most often the purpose of this is to get an SVA (Single Vehicle Approval), entitling it for use as a type approved motor vehicle. However your intention will be to get the inspector to agree that it meets the pedelec requirements so is exempt from being a motor vehicle and is approved as a pedelec.

However, if you get and accept SVA approval as well at the same time, as specified earlier in getting legal permission, you will be able to have a fully acting throttle on a post December 2015 pedelec with it still considered a bureaucracy free pedelec, a bonus. I repeat though, no-one to my knowedge has ever done this to create a kit pedelec so it's never been necessary, but it is the DfT specified correct way when creating any motorised vehicle from more than one vehicle or from parts.

N.B. The DfT is increasingly referring to SVA as IVA (Individual Vehicle Approval), so you might need this for online linking in future.
In summary, legislators don't like kits, too many variables, so avoid their mention like the plague. Mainland Europe killed the kit car industry long ago and our laws have damaged it here too, so we are perhaps lucky that the lawyers don't pay attention to our little pedelec kit niche.

Powered Trailers
There is no law here or in the EU permitting powered trailers following a bicycle, whether pushing it or not, so the status of such a combination is even more difficult than that of kits. However there are very small numbers of such trailers on the road both here and in some parts of Europe, especially The Netherlands, so it appears to be another "blind eye" subject like kit bikes. Do it with fingers crossed. Alternatively you could permanently couple the trailer and bike as one vehicle and take the outfit through Single Vehicle Approval as a tricycle pedelec or quad pedelec.
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Baz the balloon man

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Just flicked through the post to be honest, but I will read it all .

Out of interest what was your first e powered Pedelech ?

I think I mentioned in previous trips down memory lane seeing a regularly seeing a bicycle fitted with a Two stoke engine with a number plate I think from around 1914 ish .

It was in Wayne Sleeps ground floor store below his South Kensington mews house parked next to a Citron Car they called The Nody Car .

Hockney painted the car when in the South of France not sure if he ever painted the combustion engine moped. .

But I think there may be a story to tell there .

Sadly the Noddy picture has gone missing from my home after I realised who actually painted it as I wrongly assumed it was Wayne’s work , I actually encouraged him to paint many years ago and bought hin some artist materials.

ONE FOR THE BOOK !!!

Back on subject I do not think it has to be that complex going forward .

After 15MPH with or with out an e throttle we need a new class of e moped bikes that should be classed as motor vehicles with all the rules that go with this type of transportation.

However we could relax the rules for bikes that say could be limited to 30mph ie well engineered and built to a standard that are safe to ride with appropriate safety helmets and gear but still a modern type of green clean transportation with the infrastructure on our roads to match .

Combined with safe secure parking ECT safer roads and better protection from Trucks , buses high end Chelsea Tractors and lastly but not least dick head impeccable drivers .

Then in the city’s we may get people out of cars by choice and not by draconian measures.
 

Baz the balloon man

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Great post, all relevant legality pertaining to any purchases, and or any modifications in one place. Excellent for quick reference. To be totally ignored by the "What's it got to do with you like" brigade.
Love the quote, happiness is doing what you like to do providing it’s done without harm or malice to others .

It’s called freedom .
 

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lt's interesting that my (and every) Mirider ebike will power along at around 15mph if you either hold the thumb button or set it to level 5.
And you only need to keep turning the pedals no matter how slowly.
So effectively that's a throttle as you're not contributing to the forward motion of the bicycle at all.
And it's fully legal.
 

flecc

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Out of interest what was your first e powered Pedelech ?
I didn't get one when young, never liked them, just worked on them but rode all of them from 25 to 49cc.

After 15MPH with or with out an e throttle we need a new class of e moped bikes that should be classed as motor vehicles with all the rules that go with this type of transportation.

However we could relax the rules for bikes that say could be limited to 30mph ie well engineered and built to a standard that are safe to ride with appropriate safety helmets and gear but still a modern type of green clean transportation with the infrastructure on our roads to match .

Combined with safe secure parking ECT safer roads and better protection from Trucks , buses high end Chelsea Tractors and lastly but not least dick head impeccable drivers .

Then in the city’s we may get people out of cars by choice and not by draconian measures.
Already got it long ago, the S Class Speed Pedelec, 45kph / 28mph allowed with up to 500 watts rating. Trouble is, out of all European countries, only Germany, Denmark and The Netherlands have accepted it, Britain and the 24 others, No Way.
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