Powerpedals tonaro compy

TylerD

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Tyler, the frame is 19 inches above ground. The battery has a rack on it so you might be able to mount another on top. Any ebike shop should be able to service it. Maintenance requirements are minimal.
Thanks Hoppy, that's just an inch higher than my 705. I've emailed the sellers to ask about the battery but I see from Shep's post that the range seems to better than I had thought . I'm now really interested!:)
 

allen-uk

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May 1, 2010
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I'm wondering what's WRONG with them! They really do sound a very good alternative to the standard ebikes, whether hub or Panasonic.

A.
 

funkylyn

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Just back from test riding the compy......these bikes are seriously good bikes......seemingly very well made....great looking....and boy do they shift.......and silent too....little bit of split second delay when switching from throttle back to assist mode but nothing to panic over.
Would have preferred a bigger capacity battery.....wouldnt we all......but in actual fact it seems by all reports to perform very well with a good range....and certainly much much better than what I have at the moment !
I absolutely FLOATED up canal hill on it in tiverton where I met Phil at his house......even though the design to me seemed strange as I am used to the continental step thru sit up and beg position I nevertheless felt very safe on it.
However the compy is not the style for me I am a bit old and female to be riding around on such a seriously cool looking bike ......its the ESPRIT step through model for me if i can bear the wait......maybe 3 months but for me this seems to be the bike I have been searching for......crank driven......THROTTLE......AND the esprit is coming in with the nexus hub gears.....what more can you ask for !!!!
This must be a serious contender for anyone looking for a good quality reasonably priced bike......and the spare batteries are just over £200.......due to Phil trying to fulfill his wish, when sourcing these bikes, to find quality without breaking the bank......and what a lovely nice genuine man......an ex engineer who seems to know his stuff.
I wish hime every success in his business and if I can help by publicising them more then I will.
Thankyou too to Hoppy for bringing this bike to my notice....I could hardly believe they were so close and I hadnt heard of them but it is a fairly new concern that hopefully will go from strength to strength which surely will happen when people try these unique bikes.
As someone who has been dithering between the Raleigh Dover and the Wisper alpino.....wanting crank drive but not wanting to give up my throttle i feel like my search is finally over......plus the money I will save will maybe buy me an i pad ......cant be bad ! LOL

Lynda

( and NO I really couldnt find anything wrong with them ! )
 

TylerD

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PS I thought I should just make it clear that I love my Wisper 705 and will be keeping it even if I get a Compy ( or an esprit). There are a quite a few nice , long cycle routes in my area which I don't use as you need to go up some pretty steep hills to get to them and it sounds as though the Compy could be the answer to this. I would keep my Wisper though whatever other bike I get:)
 

funkylyn

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Feb 22, 2011
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What batteries do you have Tyler ?
When test riding last year at Presteigne the only bike that actually got me up a nearby steep hill WAS a wisper.......
Look forward to hearing what you think after trying the compy......do you live near ?
 

TylerD

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Jul 8, 2010
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:)Its the 14Ah, Lynda. Yes, the Wisper is a workhorse and good on hills but the ones I mentioned are really steep. I'm going to check the gradients, they may be too much for the Compy too.

In fact it would probably be the Esprit now . I got a very helpful reply from Pwerpedals who have told me thaqt the "step-through" distance from ground is 21" , which is a couple of inches more than Hoppy kindly indicated. Unfortunately, being as stiff as I as am that's probably an inch or so too far!

I live on the west coast of Scotland, about 30 miles from Glasgow so not very handy but if I do sort out a test ride I'll let you know what I think . Meantime I'll be really interested to hear about anyone else's experiences with the Compy or any other Tonaro:)
 

allen-uk

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May 1, 2010
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Hoppy:

Just trying to pin down this power and range business - so a few personal questions!

How much do you weigh? Are you fit and able (i.e. do you have all your limbs and are they working well)?

In my case I'm old, fat, not fit, and have one plastic leg, so my ranges and hill-climbing are limited, even with the top-of-the-range Wisper (or at least it was when I bought it).

A
 

hoppy

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May 25, 2010
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Still make it 19 inches,Tyler! Allen , I'm quite old and fat too with a dodgy heart and knees! Tonaro hill climbing comes from the drive through gears torque multiplication. They claim 25 degrees which is more than 1in 3! Even 25% is 1in 4. Regards,hoppy
 

funkylyn

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:)Its the 14Ah, Lynda. Yes, the Wisper is a workhorse and good on hills but the ones I mentioned are really steep. I'm going to check the gradients, they may be too much for the Compy too.

In fact it would probably be the Esprit now . I got a very helpful reply from Pwerpedals who have told me thaqt the "step-through" distance from ground is 21" , which is a couple of inches more than Hoppy kindly indicated. Unfortunately, being as stiff as I as am that's probably an inch or so too far!

I live on the west coast of Scotland, about 30 miles from Glasgow so not very handy but if I do sort out a test ride I'll let you know what I think . Meantime I'll be really interested to hear about anyone else's experiences with the Compy or any other Tonaro:)
Actually Tyler, when i think about it...the wisper that flew me up the hill at presteigne last year was derestricted.....so that would have helped.
As for the height of the compy, all I can say is I am not very fit, used to step through, only 5'6'' and not good at ''cocking my leg'' (!) but I managed the compy OK.
the hill I tested it on was very steep, however not sure of the gradient, but steep enough to be a bit scarey coming down it ......and as I said, it flew up it I was amazed......it has a lot of torque.
The frustrating thing for me is having to wait for the esprit......3 months is a long time with so many cycle ways to explore !!
 

funkylyn

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Feb 22, 2011
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Hoppy:

Just trying to pin down this power and range business - so a few personal questions!

How much do you weigh? Are you fit and able (i.e. do you have all your limbs and are they working well)?

In my case I'm old, fat, not fit, and have one plastic leg, so my ranges and hill-climbing are limited, even with the top-of-the-range Wisper (or at least it was when I bought it).

A
Allen....I am a lady so please forgive me if I dont tell you MY weight......but suffice to say......I am no Kate Middleton (!) and I have never climbed such a steep hill on a bike as quickly and effortlessly as I did on the compy.
 

overlander

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I like the Bighit very sturdy looking.
 

Wisper Bikes

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Actually Tyler, when i think about it...the wisper that flew me up the hill at presteigne last year was derestricted.....so that would have helped.
Hi Lynda, when a bike is derestricted it simply allows the motor to help when the bike is exceeding the 15.5mph limit. It has no effect on the torque or hill climbing ability.

If you can wait until the end of next month, and hill climbing is important, it may well be worth having a go on the new 905/705sel bikes. They are about 10/20% more powerful than the Alpino!

Best regards

David
 

allen-uk

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Hi Lynda, when a bike is derestricted it simply allows the motor to help when the bike is exceeding the 15.5mph limit. It has no effect on the torque or hill climbing ability.
David, I know that's what is always said, but other Wisper owners (plus Roger from Harrow, who actually rides a Kalkhoff), all SWEAR that riding a Wisper with 'off-road' engaged means that there is most definitely more power UNDER 15.5mph - in fact if I'm riding along at say 11 mph and think it's not as powerful as usual, the very first thing I check is that the off-road switch is set to 'off-road'. Then the bike is more powerful, no question.

A.
 

NRG

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Does the bike accelerate Allen if riding at 11mph or does it maintain speed but pedalling gets easier?
 

Wisper Bikes

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Hi Allen, I totally understand what you are saying but the power is not effected by de-restricting the bike.

The only thing I can imagine is when restricted the power is gradually reduced between 14 and 15.5mph as per regs. This will certainly give you more power in the 14 to 15.5mph range.

All the best

David
 

allen-uk

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Does the bike accelerate Allen if riding at 11mph or does it maintain speed but pedalling gets easier?
Pedalling gets easier, NRG. Not sure about speed/acceleration, as I hadn't really bothered to notice. But pedalling definitely gets easier.

This is one of THE big reasons why I have my off-road button permanently in the off-road position - I don't care about speed, at all - 15.5 mph (or whatever it is) is more than enough for me - but the lack of power from say 10 up to 15 is noticeable.

I'll dig out Roger's explanation, as he really is an exceptionally clever engineer, and post it later.


Allen.