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China emits about 36 times what we do, partly because they are now by far the biggest manufacturer of world goods, but also because they are wedded to coal fired power generation and are still building new coal fired generators (last year they built more coal power stations than our total generating capacity).
EVs account for more than 40% of cars in China and in the last quarter, sales of EVs in China overtook ICE cars.
China has enough solar electricity to cover the needs of 1.41 billion Chinese. It's only their industries that need burning fossil fuels and are responsible such huge emissions.
Exactly. Who is really to blame?

Surely it's as much we in the West for getting them to do our dirty work on the cheap while claiming all manner of false "green" credentials?

The solution is in our hands, producing the things we need in an environmentally responsible way, instead of hiding our dirt the other side of the planet and blaming everyone else.
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You've been reading too many war comics.
No surprise to see remarks like this.

There have always been people who preferred to appease dictators rampaging over neighbouring countries. It happened eighty years ago and it happens now. Those who reasoned that it was better to leave Hitler to get on with it are rightly despised now as they were back then. The same is due to those who would appease Putin now.

It isn't me that is delusional here. If Putin succeeds, he and his gang of FSB thieves and killers will not stop at Ukraine. He attacked Ukraine because he doubted the resolve of democratic nations. He was counting on people thinking and acting like YOU.
 
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No surprise to see remarks like this.

There have always been people who preferred to appease dictators rampaging over neighbouring countries. It happened eighty years ago and it happens now. Those who reasoned that it was better to leave Hitler to get on with it are rightly despised now as they were back then. The same is due to those who would appease Putin now.

It isn't me that is delusional here. If Putin succeeds, he and his gang of FSB thieves and killers will not stop at Ukraine. He attacked Ukraine because he doubted the resolve of democratic nations. He was counting on people thinking and acting like YOU.
Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the dictators could be in our own countries?
 

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Ours don't stay very long as dictators. One's gone quicker than a lettuce. When do you think Putin and xi jin pin will ever leave?
 
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Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the dictators could be in our own countries?
I have no truck with some of the interventions which have been made in other countries by past governments of ours - particularly in the middle east at American urging. Both Labour and Conservatives have done this and caused a lot of harm in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. All three ar far worse than they were before as a result.

Not that any government here can be put in the same league as Putin's as far as dictatorship and kleptocracy is concerned. He is in a league of his own. He cares nothing for his own people except to suppress and exploit them. It is pretty clear that about 100,000 of his own troops have been killed in the last two years and maybe half that number of Ukrainians - and for what?

Any politician who poses any kind of democratic threat to his continued rule is either falsely fitted up and imprisoned; poisoned, shot in the street or disappears.

You should watch that film on Iplayer titled Navalny to see what kind of people he has had killed. It is as if Boris, or Sunac ordered the killing of Starmer and had it carried out, or as if any of our past PMs, stole billions to provide himself with private planes, super yachts and palaces. Putin knows he can not lose power because if he did he could no longer suppress information about what he has done and would certainly be bumped off himself. He is a megalomaniac, a thief, a murderer and a monster, and he can not be left to smash up neighbouring countries and turn them into prisons. The Russians did that before to 18 neighbouring countries. They still control some of those, but there are four countries now in the EU that might well come under his pressure after Ukraine fell, not to mention Finland and Sweden which have just joined NATO much against his wishes. Putin had murdered people in Britain and attempted to murder others with clearly attributable poisons. How brazen is that? If you placate gangsters, they take everything you have. The only response which works with such people is to fight back with maximum effort.
 
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there is no Ukrainian troops left in any numbers that could do anything 600 thousand dead and 1-2 million injured and 100 thousand Russians dead.

and another 60 billion passed on Saturday paid for buy usa tax payers for the profit of there war profiteering corporations.

every part of the uk government is a corporation registered at dun and brad street.

corporations only have 1 duty of care, profit.

more Russians died in ww2 than any other country combined and did also ask to join nato and was told no buy the usa as default enemy.

msm is just for corporate agenda propaganda of the government corporations and wars make more money than not having them we are just the meat for the grinder.


 

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more global warming means more power :eek: and that huge spike was the shower soon to becoume what a heat pump uses :oops:

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3.5kw :p
 

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there is no Ukrainian troops left in any numbers that could do anything 600 thousand dead and 1-2 million injured and 100 thousand Russians dead.

and another 60 billion passed on Saturday paid for buy usa tax payers for the profit of there war profiteering corporations.

every part of the uk government is a corporation registered at dun and brad street.

corporations only have 1 duty of care, profit.

more Russians died in ww2 than any other country combined and did also ask to join nato and was told no buy the usa as default enemy.

msm is just for corporate agenda propaganda of the government corporations and wars make more money than not having them we are just the meat for the grinder.


FFS the same US pundits were suggesting Putin/russia would roll through Ukraine in a few weeks.

Didnt the granny giving russian solders sunflower seeds to carry in their pockets so their corpses would be useful, give you an inkling of the people you are dismissing so readily??

F#ck Putin, and F#ck anybody stupid enough to think 'he aint all that bad'
 
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he could roll through the lot of them he is just not carpet bombing like Israel is doing now killing them all because they want there land.

if they mobilized there hole force the country no more in a matter of weeks simple as that they lost the usa proxy war for profit greed and corruption.

if he did not give a toss just nuke the fookers :p



and the usa is full of $hit

 
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i think a good idea is to let these tossers kill each other in a ufc event bindoo vs Putin ko win bindoo fell over after 10 seconds :D
 

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fkn rats!
 
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Ours don't stay very long as dictators. One's gone quicker than a lettuce. When do you think Putin and xi jin pin will ever leave?
Putin subverted the Russian constitution. From memory, I think he was allowed two, four year terms in office as President. He started in 2000. He is still there 24 years later, after rigging several elections, and murdering and imprisoning several credible opponents. He isn't ever the only name on the ballot, but the only other candidates allowed are his own place men.

Total control of the media and news.

Total control of the courts.

Total control of the election process.

Total control of the FSB and its stocks of Novichok and Polonium-210. Just ask Litveneko's widow, or Dawn Sturgis relatives (she was poisoned by Novichok in a discarded perfume spray which had been used to poison Skripal and his daughter).

Soon to be in total control of Ukraine (if some get their way).

Funny how people Putin takes against suddenly fall out of windows, disappear, or their plane's blow up in the sky and falls to earth in an inferno.....

And people here think we should look the other way.... Amazing. Still there were plenty here who shrugged when Hitler gassed millions of Jews. It takes all sorts I suppose.
 
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Funny how people Putin takes against suddenly fall out of windows, disappear, or their plane's blow up in the sky and fall to earth in an inferno.....
Would be dictator if elected, Trump is quite clear about what he would do to ex potuses who are still alive: Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden.
 
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Would be dictator if elected, Trump is quite clear about what he would do to ex potuses who are still alive: Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden.
I can't prove this, but I am inclined after thinking about it to believe the suggestions that Putin has something very nasty to hold over Trump regarding what he is supposed to have got up to on a Russian business trip. It is sometimes called the Steele Dossier and it makes some very seedy allegations about Trump, who of course denies it, but then he denies all the other similar allegations about how he treats women, in spite of his having been recorded on mic after an interview talking about his appalling conduct towards women.

 
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Total control of the media and news.

Total control of the courts.

Total control of the election process.

Soon to be in total control of Ukraine (if some get their way).

Funny how people Putin takes against suddenly fall out of windows, disappear, or their plane's blow up in the sky and falls to earth in an inferno.....

And people here think we should look the other way.... Amazing. Still there were plenty here who shrugged when Hitler gassed millions of Jews. It takes all sorts I suppose.
You're still looking in the wrong direction. Did you know about this word?

Total control of media and news - think MSM

Total control of election process. How did Biden get elected?

Total control of the courts. Look at the Tommy Robinson story. He's been jailed multiple times and never had a jury. Incidentally, he was acquitted today on charges that should never reached a court. In the hearing, the police said that, mysteriously, none of the recordings on the cameras survived. One said he borrowed somebody else's camera, one said he accidentally deleted the footage and another claimed his camera was faulty after the event. The Judge ruled that the order TR was supposed to have breached was unlawful on multiple counts. Even if the order had been lawful, TR was still exempt from it, so never should have been arrested. Personally, I think that TR was acquitted because of his recent efforts to support a certain community, who seem to hold the trump cards at the moment, not because the legal system suddenly decided to be fair to him.
 
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You're still looking in the wrong direction. Did you know about this word?

Total control of media and news - think MSM
Total control of election process. How did Biden get elected?
Total control of the courts. Look at the Tommy Robinson story. He's been jailed multiple times and never had a jury. Incidentally, he was acquitted
I don't know where to start.....
You're still looking in the wrong direction. Did you know about this word?

Total control of media and news - think MSM

Total control of election process. How did Biden get elected?

Total control of the courts. Look at the Tommy Robinson story. He's been jailed multiple times and never had a jury. Incidentally, he was acquitted today on charges that should never reached a court. In the hearing, the police said that, mysteriously, none of the recordings on the cameras survived. One said he borrowed somebody else's camera, one said he accidentally deleted the footage and another claimed his camera was faulty after the event. The Judge ruled that the order TR was supposed to have breached was unlawful on multiple counts. Even if the order had been lawful, TR was still exempt from it, so never should have been arrested. Personally, I think that TR was acquitted because of his recent efforts to support a certain community, who seem to hold the trump cards at the moment, not because the legal system suddenly decided to be fair to him.
Bewildering - do you really believe this stuff, or are you winding us up?

You write about e-bikes with precision and significant experience and knowledge. You are obviously intelligent, and then your write mad stuff like this. Absolutely insane, conspiracy nonsense. You leave me bewildered at how this has come about.

I think on reflection, it is not possible that an intelligent man could think like this unless he had been captured and brainwashed in some North Korean prison. And yet - you obviously haven't been put in such a situation. It must be a joke.... You're pulling our legs aren't you. :)
 

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if you think the bbc ect tell the truth you are to far gone ;)

every so called government in every country is corrupt for greed power and control.


thats the plan and a one world government to control every country .wef who problem is to many ppl have woken up to there bs.


whats the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth, about 6 month :eek:

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see there registered as corporations they lie to everyone and if you go down this rabbit hole u wont like what you find;)
 

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You write about e-bikes with precision and significant experience and knowledge. You are obviously intelligent, and then your write mad stuff like this. Absolutely insane, conspiracy nonsense. You leave me bewildered at how this has come about.
saneagle is extremely well informed. He was spot on when we discussed behind the scene schemes to keep Trump in power, fake electors, certification process etc. He was also well informed on TR and reddit's gamestop story. He questions orthodoxy and the deep state. He does not necessarily believe everything the way he writes about them.
 
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