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AndyBike

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"According to the World Bank there is only 1 country with less sunshine than Britain, Ireland"
Solar Flaps, haha :cool:
A vid from ARC, owned by a group of multimillionaire hedge fund manager climate deniers.
Guess they have a lot invested in the oil industry.

I love the comments in that vid, all those people labouring under the misconception that ARC cares about them.

They have one interest and one interest alone - Making money.
They have zero interest in the wellbeing of the general public.

Do you never research the vids you watch Mike ? get the background of who is posting them, their motivations, who they are connected to, which political parties they favour and donate to.
 

Ghost1951

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Whats wrong with making money?

Nothing at all - unless you are a loser communist.

Unless people were making money, there would be no tax to fund the helpless.
 

AndyBike

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and betray your hard left arrogance in speaking the way you did about people who vote for Reform
Im center right, like a lot of conservatives. I'm quite strong on law and order*

You seem to think political alliance is a black and white issue(pun) but many in the conservative party arent as extreme as you'd like them to be and care about the country as a whole, not the whims of financial institutions.

*Fishface and reform, GB news seek to cause division in our communities in culture wars, they are parasites who feed off peoples fears, while stoking those fears.
Division in our communities causes lawlessness and strife
 
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AndyBike

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there would be no tax to fund the helpless.
Offshore accounts in tax avoidance countries dont contribute to our funds, and couldnt care about the helpless unless they can glean some money from it for themselves.
 

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This is another total distortion.

In 2024 China produced 53% of its energy from coal, 17% from oil and about 8% from gas. That is nearly 80% from fossil fuels, and if you add in the burning of waste, you certainly get to that figure. Last year they built 40 Gwatts of NEW coal power generation.

They burned FOUR BILLION TONNES of coal last year!


Oh - and by the way - the
If you put the 260 Gwatts of new green Chinese power against the legacy 3,349Gwatts of mostly high carbon Chinese power generation, the new stuff is a spit in the ocean.

Take into account that UK electric power emits 135 grams of co2 per kilowatt hour and Chinese power emits 582 grams of co2.

You regularly whitewash Chinese emissions. I have no idea why. I can't work out why anyone would do that.

Oh - and by the way - the focus on the frequency of teh grid is NOT a bureaucratic fixation on a magic number. The reason the frequency is kept up is that it means the total of the generation being put into the grid matches the demand. If the frequency goes to 51 or 53 HTZ, it means there is too much generation and the voltage on teh grid and in teh transformers and in the sockets in your kitchen goes up and is well out of specification. The turbines are rotating faster than they ought to be and if it goes much further they will run away unless throttled back. If it goes the other way and falls down to 48, or 47, the load on the grid is higher than the generation being put in and the load increases so much that the giant rotating turbines have slowed down.

As for renewables being better at managing load variations than the inertia of rotating mass - it isn't, and you were saying the opposite two days ago.
I think it's best to start with your last sentence and walk backward.

1. As for renewables being better at managing load variations than the inertia of rotating mass - it isn't, and you were saying the opposite two days ago.

The reason for that blackout is the sudden drop in supply that happened initially at 12:30 then came back then dropped a few times until 12:33 when the grid died. We know that solar supplies were disconnected albeit that day was sunny with very little cloud and solar generation was at their peak, the price per kwH went negative after 12:00 and also, the synchrous supplies were 5GW out of 27GW. Those are facts.

Have you heard of Grid-forming inverters?
If you haven't yet, please look that up so we are on the same page.
 

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A vid from ARC, owned by a group of multimillionaire hedge fund manager climate deniers.
Guess they have a lot invested in the oil industry.

I love the comments in that vid, all those people labouring under the misconception that ARC cares about them.

They have one interest and one interest alone - Making money.
They have zero interest in the wellbeing of the general public.

Do you never research the vids you watch Mike ? get the background of who is posting them, their motivations, who they are connected to, which political parties they favour and donate to.
So what vid channels do you espouse that are so virtuous, so altruistic, so neutral, and pure as the driven snow.

I look around all over the place and I pick and choose, not swallow all the codswallop from one spout. "Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a day", hehe. Just pick them when they're right.

"Net Zero" makes Zero sense and will bankrupt Europe. The rest of the world is ignoring it and carrying on with life. Tell them ALL their wrong and make them change their ways, no, thought not!
:)
 

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the plan is to bankrupt the eu and uk silly as that's the plan to bring in there cbdc :D
 

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Bill Gates plans to give away most of his fortune by 2045
"I'd love for [Musk] to go in and meet the children that have now been infected with HIV because he cut that money," Mr Gates told the FT.
 

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It's a good deal for Trump and he is proven right. Shafting your friends is the easiest step.
 
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It's a good deal for Trump and he is proven right. Shafting your friends is the easiest step.
Starmer agreed to the deal. Are you saying that he and his massive team of expert advisers don't know what they're doing? You've studied the agreement and you know better than them? Is Starmer actually Trump's friend? If not, why not?
 

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Starmer agreed to the deal. Are you saying that he and his massive team of expert advisers don't know what they're doing? You've studied the agreement and you know better than them? Is Starmer actually Trump's friend? If not, why not?
Starmer's deal is less good compared to what the EU is doing.
The EU uses the money that it collects through counter measures to assist essential exporters exporting existing stocks such as wines and spirits. The result is financially neutral but they keep an equal pressure on the USA toward an equal and parallel reduction. It's lose lose solution for Trump.
Starmer removes our tariffs and restrictions on US goods in exchange for a smaller rise in USA's tariffs on our goods.
I assume he has to avoid job losses in the Midflands at any cost and keep Trump sweet so he bends over first.
 
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Starmer's deal is less good compared to what the EU is doing.
The EU uses the money that it collects through counter measures to assist essential exporters exporting existing stocks such as wines and spirits. The result is financially neutral but they keep an equal pressure on the USA toward an equal and parallel reduction. It's lose lose solution for Trump.
Starmer removes our tariffs and restrictions on US goods in exchange for a smaller rise in USA's tariffs on our goods.
I assume he has to avoid job losses in the Midflands at any cost and keep Trump sweet so he bends over first.
BBC presenters get paid more than Unity News Network presenters. Does that mean some friend of UNN is "shafting" them?

Let's take another scenario. A father has two twin sons. Son A is always helping around the house and garden, keeps his bedroom tidy and does his homework. Son B spends all his time playing computer games. His bedroom is a mess despite frequent requests from his parents to tidy it up. Son A gets £5 a week pocket money. Son B gets £3.50. They each negotiate separately for it and the father explains the criteria for getting more money. Is the father shafting son B?
 
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BBC presenters get paid more than Unity News Network presenters. Does that mean some friend of UNN is "shafting" them?
It's not quite a parallel because the two journalist friends don't negotiate directly with one another while the USA and UK do. Trump knows Starmer wants the deal more than he does for political reasons in post brexit UK.

Let's take another scenario. A father has two twin sons. Son A is always helping around the house and garden, keeps his bedroom tidy and does his homework. Son B spends all his time playing computer games. His bedroom is a mess despite frequent requests from his parents to tidy it up. Son A gets £5 a week pocket money. Son B gets £3.50. They each negotiate separately for it and the father explains the criteria for getting more money. Is the father shafting son B?
No.
 

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So what vid channels do you espouse that are so virtuous, so altruistic, so neutral, and pure as the driven snow.
Couldnt say, i usually look at a wide demographic of media sources. Left, right, center etc pro, against, to try and get some understanding
But also common sense.
Say for example you were an industry that had collectively profited by trillions of $$, with trillions more in projected profits, and someone comes along and says this new tech will deplete your projected income by 80%

Would you be for or against that ?

All that said, Im quite surprised by your attitude and point Mike, as we all know the type of vid channels you look at and post up here quite regularly.
 

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GUILTY!! Remanded until July for their own protection. I'm not surprised. These guys will need to be careful as they are so hated and despised around here.

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Ten years apiece would not be enough to satisfy me or the rest of the people who live near where the Sycamore Gap tree stood. UTTER MORONS who deserve never to live in peace again.

The tree was about three miles from my house. I could barely believe that anyone would do a thing like these morons did.

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