Prices of the electricity we use to charge

[jimriley]

What is this "ruski gas" of which you spake several pages ago?

My house now has ASHP, Solar and Battery, selling more voles than I'm eating. I also buy them and freeze them at night while they are asleep, sell them to my poor neighbours to eat at tea time when they are expensive. About to get a car with vole wheels too. They are a lot faster than hamsters.

 

[Ghost1951]

What is this "ruski gas" of which you spake several pages ago?

My house now has ASHP, Solar and Battery, selling more voles than I'm eating. I also buy them and freeze them at night while they are asleep, sell them to my poor neighbours to eat at tea time when they are expensive. About to get a car with vole wheels too. They are a lot faster than hamsters.

Sounds like you need to be in touch with Rentokill. Either that, or contact more starving neighbours to eat them for you. I think they might need some strong sauce to make them edible.

 

[jimriley]

Nah, I buy caviar can-apes with the profits, I live in the middle of an estate, shoot peasants for sport. Being a kind and caring socialist I find it better than watching them suffer with disability and madness. You of all people must agree Shirley.

 

[Ghost1951]

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/health-related-benefit-claims-post-pandemic-uk-trends-and-global-context

"In summer 2021, each month 15,000 or so working-age people started receiving PIP with that monthly figure having remained little changed for years.
By July 2022, the latest data, shows it had doubled to 30,000 per month, with no sign of slowing down.
The increase in claimants is seen across medical conditions and ages, with the fastest rise among teenagers, where claim rates have tripled.
The IFS says that with no change in the number of people seeing an end to their PIP claim, this implies a growing number of recipients:

• Currently there are 2.8 million claimants, whose payments cost in total £15 billion per year.
• This sudden increase seems to be driven by a worsening of health across the population – something for which there is now accumulating evidence across a number of sources.

The new IFS report also finds that:

• The increase in claims has been seen across ages and conditions. Essentially all ages have seen their claim rate roughly double, although for teenagers it has tripled. Claims for most major conditions also increased by a similar amount.
• Around a third of the new claims are for mental or behavioural conditions, although among claimants under 25 that figure rises to 70%. The share of claims for mental illnesses, has – like other conditions – changed remarkably little during the rapid rise.
• Rising applications to disability benefits has led to a backlog of around 250,000 people waiting for their claim to be assessed. So far this does not appear to have affected waiting times, though they remain long at 18 weeks on average.
• The success rate (the proportion of applications that are awarded PIP) has stayed roughly the same since 2016 at around 40%. This is consistent with the assessment system remaining roughly the same in terms of its “strictness”, and the ill health of applicants remaining at similar severity, with the spike in new PIP awards simply driven by more people in ill health and making claims.
• Consistent with that interpretation, survey data on the working-age population as a whole shows that health has been getting worse, with 9.6% (4.0 million) now reporting that their health limits their daily activities “a lot”, up from 8.5% (3.5 million) at the start of 2021. Here too there is an increase across all major types of condition."

 

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cloud key batt died and has taken out the poe circuit so need to use usb c power near 5 years to day day it was new

 

[AndyBike]

I have NEVER ever seen any kind of attempt to explain this.

Really ??? I seriously doubt that. I suspect it is more a case of that you choose to ignore the reasons you have been given.

But giving you the benefit of the doubt - Here are some of the reasons.

1.The UK is perceived by some asylum seekers as having better employment opportunities, particularly in the informal or shadow economy.

2.Previously British colonies or territories under UK influence may also attract asylum seekers seeking to connect with their heritage.

3.The UK is often perceived as a more welcoming and supportive country for asylum seekers, particularly those with connections to the British Empire or speaking English.

4.France's asylum application process is lengthy, taking around nine months to process, and only a small percentage (25%) receive positive decisions.

5.Some perceive France as a hostile environment for asylum seekers, with limited access to accommodation, food, and medical care.

6.There are reports of degrading treatment, police raids, and evictions in some areas.

7.Some asylum seekers feel they have no choice but to attempt to reach the UK, especially when facing desperate conditions in France, such as lack of shelter and basic necessities.

8.Many asylum seekers aim to reunite with family members who may already be in the UK, providing support and a sense of community.

 

[AndyBike]

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/health-related-benefit-claims-post-pandemic-uk-trends-and-global-context

"In summer 2021, each month 15,000 or so working-age people started receiving PIP with that monthly figure having remained little changed for years.
By July 2022, the latest data, shows it had doubled to 30,000 per month, with no sign of slowing down.
The increase in claimants is seen across medical conditions and ages, with the fastest rise among teenagers, where claim rates have tripled.
The IFS says that with no change in the number of people seeing an end to their PIP claim, this implies a growing number of recipients:

• Currently there are 2.8 million claimants, whose payments cost in total £15 billion per year.
• This sudden increase seems to be driven by a worsening of health across the population – something for which there is now accumulating evidence across a number of sources.

The new IFS report also finds that:

• The increase in claims has been seen across ages and conditions. Essentially all ages have seen their claim rate roughly double, although for teenagers it has tripled. Claims for most major conditions also increased by a similar amount.
• Around a third of the new claims are for mental or behavioural conditions, although among claimants under 25 that figure rises to 70%. The share of claims for mental illnesses, has – like other conditions – changed remarkably little during the rapid rise.
• Rising applications to disability benefits has led to a backlog of around 250,000 people waiting for their claim to be assessed. So far this does not appear to have affected waiting times, though they remain long at 18 weeks on average.
• The success rate (the proportion of applications that are awarded PIP) has stayed roughly the same since 2016 at around 40%. This is consistent with the assessment system remaining roughly the same in terms of its “strictness”, and the ill health of applicants remaining at similar severity, with the spike in new PIP awards simply driven by more people in ill health and making claims.
• Consistent with that interpretation, survey data on the working-age population as a whole shows that health has been getting worse, with 9.6% (4.0 million) now reporting that their health limits their daily activities “a lot”, up from 8.5% (3.5 million) at the start of 2021. Here too there is an increase across all major types of condition."

Anybody on any benefit, be that income support/ESA or disability/PIP etc has had to jump through several hoops during the tory reign and have passed every part of the very stringent tory criteria.

The tories hate any sort of social services, and have done everything in their power over the last 14 years of their last term, and every term before that, to disclude anyone they could from receiving money.

 

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esa and income support are all now rolled in to uc but anyone migrated from the old systems wont see any rise every tax year.

im on uc and got 80k in my bank account

 

[Woosh]

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/health-related-benefit-claims-post-pandemic-uk-trends-and-global-context

"In summer 2021, each month 15,000 or so working-age people started receiving PIP with that monthly figure having remained little changed for years.
By July 2022, the latest data, shows it had doubled to 30,000 per month, with no sign of slowing down.
The increase in claimants is seen across medical conditions and ages, with the fastest rise among teenagers, where claim rates have tripled.
The IFS says that with no change in the number of people seeing an end to their PIP claim, this implies a growing number of recipients:

• Currently there are 2.8 million claimants, whose payments cost in total £15 billion per year.
• This sudden increase seems to be driven by a worsening of health across the population – something for which there is now accumulating evidence across a number of sources.

The new IFS report also finds that:

• The increase in claims has been seen across ages and conditions. Essentially all ages have seen their claim rate roughly double, although for teenagers it has tripled. Claims for most major conditions also increased by a similar amount.
• Around a third of the new claims are for mental or behavioural conditions, although among claimants under 25 that figure rises to 70%. The share of claims for mental illnesses, has – like other conditions – changed remarkably little during the rapid rise.
• Rising applications to disability benefits has led to a backlog of around 250,000 people waiting for their claim to be assessed. So far this does not appear to have affected waiting times, though they remain long at 18 weeks on average.
• The success rate (the proportion of applications that are awarded PIP) has stayed roughly the same since 2016 at around 40%. This is consistent with the assessment system remaining roughly the same in terms of its “strictness”, and the ill health of applicants remaining at similar severity, with the spike in new PIP awards simply driven by more people in ill health and making claims.
• Consistent with that interpretation, survey data on the working-age population as a whole shows that health has been getting worse, with 9.6% (4.0 million) now reporting that their health limits their daily activities “a lot”, up from 8.5% (3.5 million) at the start of 2021. Here too there is an increase across all major types of condition."

How much of the increase is caused by widespread cannabis consumption?

 

[soundwave]

no pip payments are made untill you have a work capability assessment until then you get standard benefits which can take up to a year depending on back log.

pip is also not means tested so you can have millions in the bank and still get it.

same as careers allowance it is not means tested unless you work more than 16hrs a week then it is means tested.

so if you care for someone and want to earn a bit more money and pay tax on it over 16hrs you loose the allowance.

yet a care home can cost 1-3k a week !

 

[AndyBike]

How much of the increase is caused by widespread cannabis consumption?

Probably not a great deal.

See places like the Netherlands for data. They've had consumption for decades, and there doesnt seem to be a huge number claiming benefits.

Probably more to do with how people are treated in the EU, whereas in the UK like the US its all about pandering to the wealthy and super wealthy
No jobs, no hope, no future

 

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Man faces trial over cannabis farm above Gloucester job centre

Yiber Dajci denies manufacturing and producing cannabis above the building in central Gloucester.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ghost1951]

Really ??? I seriously doubt that. I suspect it is more a case of that you choose to ignore the reasons you have been given.

But giving you the benefit of the doubt - Here are some of the reasons.

1.The UK is perceived by some asylum seekers as having better employment opportunities, particularly in the informal or shadow economy.

2.Previously British colonies or territories under UK influence may also attract asylum seekers seeking to connect with their heritage.

3.The UK is often perceived as a more welcoming and supportive country for asylum seekers, particularly those with connections to the British Empire or speaking English.

4.France's asylum application process is lengthy, taking around nine months to process, and only a small percentage (25%) receive positive decisions.

5.Some perceive France as a hostile environment for asylum seekers, with limited access to accommodation, food, and medical care.

6.There are reports of degrading treatment, police raids, and evictions in some areas.

7.Some asylum seekers feel they have no choice but to attempt to reach the UK, especially when facing desperate conditions in France, such as lack of shelter and basic necessities.

8.Many asylum seekers aim to reunite with family members who may already be in the UK, providing support and a sense of community.

Of course you ENTIRELY miss the point.

It doesn't matter in an asylum claim what people would like. The purpose of asylum is to assist a person or persons in imminent and real danger. It has long been understood that asylum seekers would and should seek asylum in the first safe place. If you are escaping threat in Iran over same sex attraction, that might be Turkey. NOTHING entitles such a person to travel overland through half a dozen safe places because he wants to travel to the UK. It is not our problem what he would like. We can not accommodate the 'likes' and wishes of every lost sheep on the planet. We already have far too few homes to accommodate the at least 11 million people who have arrived here since 1995. This is why most ordinary people here of whatever colour can barely afford to put a roof over their heads and maintain it. It IS the reason I spot respectable homeless old men sitting about in doorways in the centre of Newcastle. I'm not talking drunks and drug addicts and obvious mental health cases, I'm talking about old men who have simply fallen out of the rented home sector. We have no chance at all of catching up the number of extra homes we would need to build to house the 11 Birmingham's worth of people we have already taken in. To continue and connive at adding more undocumented and illegal migrants is utter insanity in a country with almost four times the population density of France (433 people per sq/km (England) versus 122 people per sq km in France).

I don't care about these people. I can not care about half the world who would think they would be happier here. I care about the people who are here now. Just today I went into the centre of Newcastle to get some new glasses. The main pedestrian areas were thick with deliveroo, uber eats and other bike riders who were Africans, Afghans and others. Where will all these people live? I heard Pashtun, unknown (to me African languages) all sorts. Meanwhile - just down the road are homeless grandfathers sitting in doorways. Only the terminally insane don't think this is a problem. The Labour cabinet get it. They are acting - which is more than the useless Conservatives did. The news tonight covered plans to send illegal migrants and failed asylum seekers abroad - good.

Desperate conditions in France! You're nuts!!! Whatever next. If you take off over half the world and expect people to bunch up and make room for you, you might just find they don;t want you. Most of these guys are just chancers anyway as anyone with a bit of nowse knows full well. Their first act in the UK was to break the law by arriving irregularly.

 

[Ghost1951]

Probably not a great deal.

See places like the Netherlands for data. They've had consumption for decades, and there doesnt seem to be a huge number claiming benefits.

Probably more to do with how people are treated in the EU, whereas in the UK like the US its all about pandering to the wealthy and super wealthy
No jobs, no hope, no future

No - again you are just stuck in your bubble. Here we have a plethora of stupid royals and influencers telling people its fine to have mental health problems and that they should wallow in them and expect symathy.

When I was a kid my parents generation who were born in the early twenties of last century of parents who fought in the first world war and they themselves in the second, had a VERY robust attitude towards this. It worked. Were there people who were mentally ill then? Of course. But the population as a whole were not clamouring to be diagnosed and put on a life long gravy train as helpless mental health cases. The rest of Europe is NOT like this. In Denmark the vast majority of diagnosed mental health cases are WORKING and benefiting from doing so. Here it is the opposite. They get signed onto benefits and sit at home rotting. Did you bother to look at that IFS link I posted? The absolutely crazy numbers trying to apply for PIP now who are in their teens and twenties is insane.

 

[Ghost1951]

How much of the increase is caused by widespread cannabis consumption?

Well I wonder. I know very well two guys who are always at the weed and both of them are nutters. I am not clear what caused what. It could be that frequent consumption of modern strong cannabis skunk strains, has tipped them over, or whether they were previously half mad and took to the weed to try and treat themselves. However - I know that there is a lot of evidence that the consumption of cannabis, and probably other drugs is a far from healthy practice and leads to mental health problems. Cannabis certainly leads to paranoia. I know this. Both of the guys I am talking about get much more unhinged when they are doing it more.

 

[Ghost1951]

Anybody on any benefit, be that income support/ESA or disability/PIP etc has had to jump through several hoops during the tory reign and have passed every part of the very stringent tory criteria.

The tories hate any sort of social services, and have done everything in their power over the last 14 years of their last term, and every term before that, to disclude anyone they could from receiving money.

That must be why under their admittedly feeble tenure, the numbers on benefits rose so much.

You are full of cr ap Andy. Get your head out of that Momentum bubble and look at how the world really is, and if you want more money - go out and make it like the rest of us do.

 

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last time i went to the dwp the 2nd floor was more like a telephone exchange most was not even speaking English.

yet these ppl dont have to look for work get everything paid for get nhs dentist if goes to a and e must be seen in 30 vmins will be given priorty of council houses and council tax i have the letter and will be now be housed in private housing for 5 year contracts.

my local dwp office has been sold and whats left the contract ends in 2028 as want it all ai controlled and everyone with a online uc account buck that and knew it 15 years ago.

Property | Acuitus

Cedar House is a substantial office building with office accommodation in two wings on the ground, first, second, third and fourth floors. The property benefits from two 8-person passenger lifts and Undercroft and surface car parking for approximately 103 cars.The property has a site area of...

www.acuitus.co.uk

and over the road.

Six men charged in connection with Gloucester cannabis factory

In a massive haul, over 500 plants were discovered

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk

80% of that building is empty yet every shop door way is full of homeless ppl and none of them are immigrants.

there is one hostel full of crack heads and if u ask them say there better of on the streets as just get everything robbed of them and plod only goes up there in numbers or on lawn mowers.

 

[Ghost1951]

Anybody on any benefit, be that income support/ESA or disability/PIP etc has had to jump through several hoops during the tory reign and have passed every part of the very stringent tory criteria.

What's wrong with that?

You don't think people receiving pubic money ought to be checked out regarding whether the claim is justified? They are asking to be paid enhanced incomes from the taxes paid by ordinary people and businesses. Why should they not turn up for interviews and assessments? We know that about sixty percent of applicants for PIP are not granted it for the simple reason that they don't qualify. Oh - and by the way, Labour are running a hard eye over the numbers of applicants. They are obviously specious. No way does mental illness double in three years, but that is what is happening to the numbers.

Maybe you would like governments of whatever stamp to just hand out free money to anyone who asks or says they can't work?

 

[AndyBike]

my parents generation who were born in the early twenties

Ahh the 1920's
Low wages and mass unemployment exacerbating the poverty levels and economic downturn.
World War I caused the high unemployment, especially for young men. Many had been injured or were suffering from shell shock. Unemployment remained over 10% until World War II.
Life choices were still more or less determined by birth, gender and deeply divided by class. A time of social injustice where malnutrition was commonplace, along with rampant poverty and a high degree of infant mortality.

Yes, them were the days.

 

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i still got 70k in my bank account get pip uc and careers allowance beat that