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Top US marketing professor Scott Galloway says on Pivot podcast Tesla owner ‘has alienated his core demographic’

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The prominent US marketing professor Scott Galloway says Elon Musk’s decision to implement brutal job and spending cuts within the federal government on behalf of the Trump administration was “one of the greatest brand destructions” ever.
Speaking on Friday’s episode of the popular Pivot podcast, which he co-hosts, Galloway said Trump’s billionaire businessman adviser alienated the customer base of his electrical vehicle manufacturer Tesla – one of his most important holdings – while aligning himself with a president whose allies aren’t interested in the kinds of cars the company makes.

Galloway then cited polling which suggested Tesla had fallen from the eighth-most reputable brand in 2021 to 95th.
“He’s alienated the wrong people,” Galloway remarked. “Three-quarters of Republicans would never consider buying an EV. So he’s cozied up to the people who aren’t interested in EVs.”

Galloway also rattled off figures maintaining that Tesla’s sales were down 59% in France, 81% in Sweden, 74% in the Netherlands, 66% in Denmark, 50% in Switzerland and 33% in Portugal.
Musk in recent months had sought to intervene in various European political affairs in recent months, including Germany’s federal election and the UK’s row over grooming gangs – particularly on X, the social media platform he owns.
After meddling put off many in Europe, a lucrative EV market, Tesla’s Chinese competitor BYD outsold the Austin-based company on the continent for the first time ever in April, according to a report from Jato Dynamics, which supplies automotive industry intelligence.
“This has arguably been one of the greatest brand destructions,” Galloway said to his co-host, veteran tech journalist Kara Swisher. “Tesla was a great brand.
“He’s alienated his core demographic.”
The federal job and spending cuts attributed to Musk stem from his involvement leading the so-called department of government efficiency (Doge) during Trump’s second US presidency, which began in January. Musk landed the role after his super political action committee donated $200m to Trump’s successful run in November to return to the White House after he lost the 2020 election as the incumbent.
Opinion polling since has suggested strong disapproval of the work Musk has done for Trump, including some research showing a majority of voters disliked the way the businessman and Doge had dealt with federal government employees in particular as the department slashed jobs.
Toward the end of April, Tesla was reporting a 71% dip in profits – and, on an earnings call with Tesla investors, Musk said he would start pulling back from his role at Doge beginning in May.
Musk said his work getting the government’s “financial house in order is mostly done” and therefore his “time allocation to Doge will drop significantly”.
One nonpartisan research group, the Partnership for Public Service, estimated in late April that about $160bn in cuts touted by Doge were on track to cost roughly $135bn.
 

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I think Musk can see that his lead over his Chinese EVs competitors has all but disappeared. Plus his truck has flopped, his FSD software is still not quite there yet, his AI behaves oddly, his rockets keep exploding before scheduled, his starlink technology is nearly obsolete etc. His attention is now turned to fund raising for Trump and family.
 
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There is no way out. Trump has pi**ed off every country on earth. There is no gold left to sell. The fed will have to print all the 9.2 trillions dollars this year to repay the bearers. Inflation will hit hard, tariffs or not. I honestly can't see how the GOP can retain control of Congress next year mid term. All the big multinationals are moving out. You have got to be mad to invest in the usa with Trump in the White House .
 
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There is no way out. Trump has pi**ed off every country on earth. There is no gold left to sell. The fed will have to print all the 9.2 trillions dollars this year to repay the bearers. Inflation will hit hard, tariffs or not. I honestly can't see how the GOP can retain control of Congress next year mid term. All the big multinationals are moving out. You have got to be mad to invest in the usa with Trump in the White House .
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Yesterday, my partner went to see Mary Beard give a talk at the Hexham Book Festival about Roman Emperors. This morning she presented me with a signed copy of Beard's latest book, 'Emperor of Rome'. This was a pleasant and unexpected surprise and I have been reading it with interest - especially the points she makes about the destructive, and dangerous nature of Autocracy.

I am sure the relevance of that anecdote will not be lost on you and others, though some seem delighted at Trump's more autocratic mannerisms - I'm not sure why. The posturing, posing and braggadocio, of Trump and his immensely wealthy hangers on, kept coming to mind as I read the early couple of chapters of Beard's book about the manner of Emperors and Senators in Ancient Rome.

I have not got that far, only starting it a couple of hours ago, but what I have read is full of the whimsical nature of their rule, their excess, their arbitrary and dangerous decisions and their resistance to opposition of any kind not to mention their penchant for extreme violence.

Trump has made it very clear that he intends to use untrammelled power, ruling through what amount to proclamations. This is extraordinary. Presidents certainly have the right to make executive orders, but no other President has made so many in peace time, and certainly not in such an impulsive and whimsical fashion. Make no mistake - they are whims. They flit into his mind and in a moment, they are all over twitter. New Tariffs imposed because he was irritated at the attitude of some European functionary. Tariffs that double, merely because he felt impatient at the pace his adversaries were prepared to prostrate themselves at his feet, or because the other party responded in kind and imposed a tariff in response to new American trade barriers. Policies announced and then unaccountably abandoned. Utterly bizarre suggestions that America take over the sovereign territory of other nations, or that foreign governments should sell their country to him, or that he just take their country anyway. There is no underlying plan. This is rule by chaos. Twitter is plastered with the impulsive ramblings of a deranged autocrat. An unaccountable maniac in my opinion.

He likes autocrats. He seeks them out, and they like him, even in one case, handing him a luxuriously appointed jumbo Jet, just because he made it clear, he wanted it. '

The biggest bribe in history', someone announced, and Trump thinks and says, 'Why should I not accept it,' and most amazingly of all - there are people one might think sensible here, in one dimension of their expertise, who defend this madness, and deflect the criticism, suggesting that those complaining, simply fail to recognise reality, or are reading the wrong sources, those not fawning at Trump's every move.

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Of course, this is nothing new. Even in Roman times, Autocrats had their fan base - enablers who one would think backed the man at the top, to be on the right side - for their own advancement or preservation, but I don't know why people in England would back Trump. He is no friend of ours, and make no mistake, if we have come through the storm of Trumpian tantrums better than some, we are only a little bit damaged by undeserved tariffs, unlike Europe, it is only because our leaders fawned and crawled to his side, dribbling their devotion onto the floor like slavering dogs.

When Zelenskyy objected to the ridiculous assertion that he had started the war with Russia - a monstrous lie - Trump had him roughed up in public - on TV - no less, in the most appalling example of diplomatic bad manners and grandstanding ever seen in the context of a President meeting another head of state. And as has often been said here - truth doesn't matter to Trump. It didn't matter to many of the Roman Emperors either, not as much as their personal glory, untrammelled power, glitz and bling - all Trumpian vices. This book has come to my grasp at the perfect time. I am going to enjoy it.

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As an aside, I have long thought Trump must be deliberately aping the posturing habits of Mussolini. It would be a strange coincidence indeed if these posturing similarities were an accident, but combined with his autocratic tendencies, it seems impossible that it is just a coincidence - more like a studied performance that an actor might make in preparation for a role.

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the usa is a corporation same as the uk we are nothing bar profit units for that corporation and are expendable :p
 

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also the Ukraine war was started buy bidden the cia and fbi as a proxy war for profit when they installed there puppet crack head government and the ppl in the west that was being blown up buy them voted for Russia to take control that they have done.

if they wanted to they could wipe Ukraine of the map in weeks Russia won ww2 not the uk or usa and lost the most troops.

and when berlin was cut in half Russia told nato no more bases or missiles closer to there boarder and u wonder why there pissed.

Russia wanted to join nato but was told no as enemy buy default yet how many nukes and wars they have started over the years compared to the usa is a fkn joke and lost all of them since.

msm only support lies and the narrative of the corporation and what you need to controll that is more fire power.

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im a gold miner n here me drill i wont require planning permission :p
 

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Yes - of course - nobody ever had a fire before solar flaps were invented. Fire brigades were really staffed by people who were actually unemployed, because fires never happened.

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It was lucky that the time traveller went back with his camera just in time to to snap a few pics of the fire of London before he went back to the future to show us.
 

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also the Ukraine war was started buy bidden the cia and fbi as a proxy war for profit when they installed there puppet crack head government and the ppl in the west that was being blown up buy them voted for Russia to take control that they have done.

if they wanted to they could wipe Ukraine of the map in weeks Russia won ww2 not the uk or usa and lost the most troops.

and when berlin was cut in half Russia told nato no more bases or missiles closer to there boarder and u wonder why there pissed.

Russia wanted to join nato but was told no as enemy buy default yet how many nukes and wars they have started over the years compared to the usa is a fkn joke and lost all of them since.

msm only support lies and the narrative of the corporation and what you need to controll that is more fire power.

im a gold miner n here me drill i wont require planning permission :p
The whole world needs Putin to reduce the number of his nukes and he is not going to do that willingly. Plus, Biden and previous American presidents all needed to maintain us military supremacy. Trump will destroy the American empire so I guess we should be a little grateful to him.
 
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The whole world needs Putin to reduce the number of his nukes and he is not going to do that willingly. Plus, Biden and previous American presidents all needed to maintain us military supremacy. Trump will destroy the American empire so I guess we should be a little grateful to him.
The problem is that for the last eighty years, Europe and some other parts of the world, have depended on wise American leadership. America had the power and still could have, to compel reasonable behaviour in dictators and up until now, they had shared values with us in Europe, and wisdom compatible with the Enlightenment thinking, which underpins civilised life in our neck of the woods. There have been missteps - meddling in Latin America to destabilise left leaning regimes, and support there for right wing dictators - long gone really - a product of the sixties obsession with suppressing 'communism', but by and large they have done the right thing.

Just thinking about what I wrote above, I should have added the destruction of Iraq to the list of mistakes.

In general though, our interests have been served by usually sensible use of American power - so a weaker, isolationist USA, I don't think will be in our interest at all.

Trump is an absolute aberration; an unstable crack pot, with dangerous amounts of power; a bull in a china shop. He will do a lot of damage. Dictators love him. He has pretty much set them loose, and offered to turn his back to what they do.

Your point about Putin is important: Putin is now in the ascendant. He will offer no compromise; no resolution. He has been enabled by Trump. Where last year he was struggling, he is now sailing free. Trump has handed him all the cards to do as he likes in Ukraine, or even in the old Russian stamping ground of what we used to call 'Eastern Europe' which until 1990, were slave states - Russian vassals and colonies.

As for reducing Russian nuclear weapons - dream on. Why would he do that? One thing the Ukraine war has ably demonstrated is that the Russian military aside from having very large amounts of cannon fodder to throw at an enemy, is useless. The invasion of Ukraine was a revelation. For two years the war was characterised by useless, Russian incompetence, and very bad equipment. The nuclear threat is all they have to warn off others. They will never give that up or diminish it.
 
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