Problem with new Kudos battery- not charging normally

craycray

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Hi - have seen threads in this forum come up in searches but never registered before today. Great resource, and much appreciated by me when choosing what to buy.. I recently bought two new electric bikes, a Kudos cycles K16 and a Cyclotricity Revolver Hybrid. Impressed with both. The Kudos is very easy to carry.. to add useful energy with the pedals you have to maintain quite a high cadence, which although maybe less efficient in terms of joules transferred into forward motion than a high gear is easy to adapt to, I like the no gears simplicity-also love the carry handle under the seat to pick it up while fully unflolded. The Revolver Hybrid is comfortable to ride even without the battery, and I have done miles at a time- saddles fine..its a good road bike. Its a bit annoying that the electric assist cuts out without loads of pedal input, would be nice to have some extra speed but still with the assist because its a good fast bike when pedalled fast.

The problem with the K16 battery is that it only charges (red led) for about 40mins, then it either alternates red/green for a while and then green- or straight to green.. When I first put the battery container on after assembling the bike it showed 3/5 battery indicator lights, then a mile or two later 1/5, charged for 40 mins, went green but I left it on for 5 hours in case this charger behaviour was different to ones I've previously experienced.. when back on the bike it showed 4/5 for a brief minute, then 3/5 and after 2 miles or so flashing single led. I tried charging again, this time leaving overnight--same behaviour and again its showing 3/5 leds now after just tens of metres of riding with pedal assist.
 

Woosh

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when the LED on the charger flashes red to green. the BMS tries to balance the cell pack. It does that normally for a few minutes at the end of the charging process. If it happens when the battery is not full, that indicates the cell pack is unbalanced, normally due to long period in storage.
You would need a special charger/discharger to rebalance the cell pack. You should seek help from the vendor.
If the battery is out of warranty, check the battery voltage first, it should show41.5V- 42V when the charger is connected and flashing red/green. Then leave it connected for 24 hours in a ventilated place where fire is not a big risk.
 
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Nealh

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First use a metre to confirm the chargers actual output
Second one needs to try and measure the in frame batteries actual voltage via the discharge connection.
 

sjpt

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If it happens when the battery is not full, that indicates the cell pack is unbalanced, normally due to long period in storage.
That is quite likely. Sadly the excellent value Kudos range hasn't been updated for quite a time; I think they have just been selling off remaining stock.