What else for an e-quantum leap?

[Arbol]

I have been thinking about e-bikes, and I am surprised they are not a bigger success. Of course, I am talking with a Barcelona point of view, where you have lots of motorbikes and scooters, but very few e-bikes (probably the UK and Scandinavian / Central European countries are different).

In my opinion, this is surprising, since scooters are dangerous (they use the road alongside cars) and more expensive (purchase as well as taxes, insurance ...). I do not think the difference in speed is relevant, especially for urban use.

I believe the main reasons are:

1. Safety against theft: batteries can be stolen easily. Most bikes have "easy open" wheels and seat. LCDs are easy to steal. People are afraid wires can be cut by "bad people". It is not easy to carry Us in the bike
2. Comfort: seats of scooters are comfortable, bikes' seats are not. Only really urban bikes (without top tube) are comfortable to mount / dismount, unlike the more prevalent MTBs. Scooters are easy to jump in / out, due to lack of "top tube"

I believe an easy solution to the above problems would be an urban bike (without top tube), with the bottom tube quite wide in order to become a case for batteries (I believe a BH has already that), pinhead-type closing for wheels and seat, LCD inserted inside the handlebar, wires inside the tubes, handle to carry a U.

I imagine one could do a singlespeed with those characteristics, quite cheap. I believe many people would like that, since the bike could be parked at the street for hours without the risk of theft.

What do you think?

 

[mike killay]

A quantum leap is an extremely small movement, perhaps the smallest known to mankind!

 

[Arbol]

A quantum leap is in fact a leap, since quantum field theory explains the whole world. Quantum leaps can then be small or big.

What matters is there is a discontinuity: something changes suddenly from one moment to the other.

And this is what quantum leap refers to: when a quantum leap happens, something changes suddenly, with no continuity with past events.

So, now let us go back to the e-bike discussion, please.

 

[Deleted member 4366]

A quantum leap is a big change. You have to look at a particle at a quantum level, where for a particle to leap to a different orbit is a huge life-changing step for it.


A single quantum leap would, of course, be insignificant to us, but if enough of them started jumping for fun, we'd be in a lot of trouble.

 

[Jimod]

I have been thinking about e-bikes, and I am surprised they are not a bigger success. Of course, I am talking with a Barcelona point of view, where you have lots of motorbikes and scooters, but very few e-bikes (probably the UK and Scandinavian / Central European countries are different).

In my opinion, this is surprising, since scooters are dangerous (they use the road alongside cars) and more expensive (purchase as well as taxes, insurance ...). I do not think the difference in speed is relevant, especially for urban use.

I believe the main reasons are:

1. Safety against theft: batteries can be stolen easily. Most bikes have "easy open" wheels and seat. LCDs are easy to steal. People are afraid wires can be cut by "bad people". It is not easy to carry Us in the bike
2. Comfort: seats of scooters are comfortable, bikes' seats are not. Only really urban bikes (without top tube) are comfortable to mount / dismount, unlike the more prevalent MTBs. Scooters are easy to jump in / out, due to lack of "top tube"

I believe an easy solution to the above problems would be an urban bike (without top tube), with the bottom tube quite wide in order to become a case for batteries (I believe a BH has already that), pinhead-type closing for wheels and seat, LCD inserted inside the handlebar, wires inside the tubes, handle to carry a U.

I imagine one could do a singlespeed with those characteristics, quite cheap. I believe many people would like that, since the bike could be parked at the street for hours without the risk of theft.

What do you think?

I've never gone out on my bike thinking someone might steal the LCD, the battery would be extremely hard to steal without damaging it beyond it being any use to you. I think, in my area, people would steal the whole bike more than parts. All I need then is a decent lock. Also, in my area, people who steal bikes would rather steal a nice light racer than my big heavy tourer.

As to your bit about single speed? I don't know what it's like in your area but I have 9 gears and use all of them when I'm out on the bike. My next ebike will have either 24 or 27 gears depending on which model I buy.

 

[flecc]

E-bikes are far from being a success in the UK in comparison with markets like The Netherlands and Germany where they are very popular.

Most of the reason for this in the UK is that we are not a cycling country, and e-cycling is usually only adopted by someone who is or has been a cyclist. The style of e-bike is very unlikely to change this.

I doubt if the reasons for any unpopularity are very different elsewhere. A country that cycles for utilitarian purposes also e-bikes. A country where people predominantly prefer cars does not commonly e-bike.

 

[trex]

I have been thinking about e-bikes, and I am surprised they are not a bigger success. Of course, I am talking with a Barcelona point of view, where you have lots of motorbikes and scooters, but very few e-bikes (probably the UK and Scandinavian / Central European countries are different).

In my opinion, this is surprising, since scooters are dangerous (they use the road alongside cars) and more expensive (purchase as well as taxes, insurance ...). I do not think the difference in speed is relevant, especially for urban use.

I believe the main reasons are:

1. Safety against theft: batteries can be stolen easily. Most bikes have "easy open" wheels and seat. LCDs are easy to steal. People are afraid wires can be cut by "bad people". It is not easy to carry Us in the bike
2. Comfort: seats of scooters are comfortable, bikes' seats are not. Only really urban bikes (without top tube) are comfortable to mount / dismount, unlike the more prevalent MTBs. Scooters are easy to jump in / out, due to lack of "top tube"

I believe an easy solution to the above problems would be an urban bike (without top tube), with the bottom tube quite wide in order to become a case for batteries (I believe a BH has already that), pinhead-type closing for wheels and seat, LCD inserted inside the handlebar, wires inside the tubes, handle to carry a U.

I imagine one could do a singlespeed with those characteristics, quite cheap. I believe many people would like that, since the bike could be parked at the street for hours without the risk of theft.

What do you think?

if you want a bike that does not attract thieves, buy one without any brand on it.