Wisper 806fe Preview

keithhazel · Apr 3, 2009

Wisper Bikes said:
Flecc you off course are absolutely right in the lowest gear my SFH legs were spinning so fast they were a blur just to get enough momentum to stop falling off.

We will get rid.

All the best David

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how come bikes come out and they have bits like this which appear to be "as good as a chocolate tea-pot"...something i once read..

do they not get a good road testing befor risking the market and reputation ?

flecc · Apr 3, 2009

This 806fe is still in development Keith, David just kindly giving us a preview, hence him mentioning using a road bike gear set at the moment. The very low bottom gear was just a by product of the cassette that came with that. I'm sure you'll see a number of differences in the final marketed version, but already it has much better top gear than is common on these e-bikes.
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keithhazel · Apr 3, 2009

flecc said:
This 806fe is still in development Keith, David just kindly giving us a preview, hence him mentioning using a road bike gear set at the moment. The very low bottom gear was just a by product of the cassette that came with that. I'm sure you'll see a number of differences in the final marketed version, but already it has much better top gear than is common on these e-bikes.
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ok i apologise i didnt mean no offence, i looked on a site last night which said wisper so assumed that as this one was mentioned on it, it was already in production..

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so once again sorry David if i spoke out of turn...got over excited without realiseing

Footie · Apr 3, 2009

flecc said:
.... I wouldn't be too worried about having a 36 volt setup on the 806fe. Given the power and torque of the SB motor at 36 volts, there could be wheel spin with the front wheel motor on the steepest hills with the weight off the front wheel. With it's big gear range it should be easy to climb just about anything with the 24 volt version, and the greatly reduced weight with the smaller battery is very welcome on a folder which might need to be carried ....

We hill dwellers may need convincing.

If it does the job, then it sounds like a very interesting bike

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flecc · Apr 3, 2009

keithhazel said:
i looked on a site last night which said wisper so assumed that as this one was mentioned on it, it was already in production..

They're possibly looking for the market potential Keith. Wisper have made some models like the folders for other suppliers as well so the specifications could well vary for those.

I think it's great that a manufacturer shares their plans for proposed models in the way that Wisper do, giving potential users a chance to input their wishes. That's good for manufacturer and customer alike, so it baffles me why so few do it in any field.
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flecc · Apr 3, 2009

Footie said:
We hill dwellers may need convincing.

If it does the job, then it sounds like a very interesting bike
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Likewise for this hill dweller, but running two of these SB motors on 36 volts I know their power potential only too well. My rear motor Q-bike in a standing start on a 22% hill leaps straight into a big wheelie and I have to stand on the pedals and lean well forward to keep it down. If that motor was in the front it would just spin it's 20" wheel, taking off more slowly. That's the intrinsic trouble with folders with their rearward seat position, lack of weight up front on really steep climbs.

On the other hand, small wheels climb well, so a bit less power is ok. Like you, I think it has a lot of potential.
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keithhazel · Apr 3, 2009

flecc said:
This 806fe is still in development Keith, David just kindly giving us a preview, hence him mentioning using a road bike gear set at the moment. The very low bottom gear was just a by product of the cassette that came with that. I'm sure you'll see a number of differences in the final marketed version, but already it has much better top gear than is common on these e-bikes.
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the other reason i got confused is that if they are on the boat by the end of may then they are the finished version are they not ?...still i eagerly await a look at one..

flecc · Apr 3, 2009

keithhazel said:
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the other reason i got confused is that if they are on the boat by the end of may then they are the finished version are they not ?...still i eagerly await a look at one..

It seems not Keith, David has said they'll lose that low gear megarange so changes are still in the offing. Anyway bikes change and improve during their lifetime, so none of them are ever likely to stand still for long. As ever it's best to just buy what suits, and when David gives that sprocket detail you'll know just how much better geared it is than the standard Quando.

It really doesn't matter if it does have some very low gears you won't use, the only thing that matters is whether it has the gears you want. Just about everything I buy has features I don't want, I'm only concerned to get the features I do want, the rest I ignore.
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keithhazel · Apr 3, 2009

flecc said:
It seems not Keith, David has said they'll lose that low gear megarange so changes are still in the offing. Anyway bikes change and improve during their lifetime, so none of them are ever likely to stand still for long. As ever it's best to just buy what suits, and when David gives that sprocket detail you'll know just how much better geared it is than the standard Quando.

It really doesn't matter if it does have some very low gears you won't use, the only thing that matters is whether it has the gears you want. Just about everything I buy has features I don't want, I'm only concerned to get the features I do want, the rest I ignore.
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yes in total agreement with you there,i had a bike with 18 gears but only ever used 4 so the other 14 where useless and would have willingly bought with just the 4 if they had the same range...im all for buying bog standard and adding what i want..just doesnt always work out practical for costs... so the possibilities of this new bike from wisper are close to all i looked for in a folder,good range,decent speed,pedelec and not throttle only, and a weight which is very manageable as at 18kg its only 6 more then my brompton and im always singing its praises for being light, so a motor,battery and more for only 6kg is excellant......the best of both worlds,

flecc · Apr 4, 2009

That's great news David. Many members have remarked that a commercial equivalent of my Quando conversion into the geared Q-bike was wanted, and this gets very close, that having a 92" top gear.
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flecc · Apr 4, 2009

Thanks David, I'd very much like to try one. We've waited far too long for an e-folder with a good gear range, and to get one weighing only about 18 kilos with derestrict as well is like having three birthdays at once.

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flecc · Apr 4, 2009

That's still good David. My Q bike is 24.5 kilos and the single speed Quando shown as 22.3 kilos with the lightest battery. It's mainly only the cheaper e-folders with very low gears and tiny batteries that get below 20 kilos.

Please let me know what Dick says though.
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JB · Apr 28, 2009

Hello e-peddlers! This is my first post since joining August last, but have been actively reading posts ever since!!!!
The Wisper 806fe is the answer to all my wishes in an e-bike - climbing hills around the Cotswolds (near to where I live in Gloucester), folded in my van and then riding around Paris, Munich, Rome, Amsterdam etc., etc. !! ( my work as a courier takes me to all these places-did I not mention Switzerland?!?) Oh, and the UK including London! I do have time to work as well!
I would like to see the 37v battery option avalable (with an optional 2 year Warranty) from the start. Your thoughts please David?

flecc · Apr 28, 2009

Wisper Bikes said:
Hi Flecc the weight is 19.6Kg with battery and rack.

All the best David

Thanks David, that's good for it's specification.
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