Wisper 905se Sport controls...

[rog_london]

Anyone there able to shed some light on what's happening - or not, as the case may be....

I've just taken delivery of a new Wisper. It has two extra control buttons on a small box labelled 'Low' and 'High' which obviously boost the power. The right hand red button shuts everything off completely - it seems to be a soft-off 'power' button. However, the throttle doesn't seem to work at all and neither does the green button by the left handlebar grip.

Any ideas?

Rog.

 

[flecc]

This post by Elephants Gerald may help Rog:

Wisper 905se controls

I believe the throttle operates only while pedalling, i.e. it's a pedelec throttle.
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[Hooligooner]

Can I ask an additional question, after perusing the new web site.

What's the difference between the 905SE city and the 905SE city S? Apart from some tens of pounds.

EDIT: Ok found the answer in the post linked too above. Thanks Flecc.

 

[Howard]

Hi Rog

I found a post from David Miall at Wisper that may help:

'We have a 905 on trial at the moment using the Panasonic system and we really don't get it! It seems so much less efficient than the simple cadence sensor and a hi/lo power switch, when combined with the throttle this allows the rider to choose exactly how much help they require from 40% up to 100%.'

Sounds like those hi/lo buttons you mention allow you to choose between 40% or 100% power. Stick it on HI is my advice!

Maybe Wisper have changed the way the throttle works? On my 905se Sport, the throttle works without having to pedal. It's probably best to email the Wisper guys direct to clear that one up:
miall@aol.com or doug.gosling@wisperbikes.com

Cheers,

Howard

 

[eddieo]

Anyone there able to shed some light on what's happening - or not, as the case may be....

I've just taken delivery of a new Wisper. It has two extra control buttons on a small box labelled 'Low' and 'High' which obviously boost the power. The right hand red button shuts everything off completely - it seems to be a soft-off 'power' button. However, the throttle doesn't seem to work at all and neither does the green button by the left handlebar grip.

Any ideas?

Rog.

where did you buy it? Surely they can explain how it works?

There was talk recently regards a mod which would make power delivery more efficient? as many claimed (me being one) that power delivery was to harsh and wasteful. And that you quickly end up peddling air as bike raced away.......Presumably you have a new generation wisper

Ops! as Howard says with the 40% - 100% switch ...wish mine had it!

 

[rog_london]

You're probably right. I bought it from e-Bikes Direct. I've only ridden it for a few minutes so far - I expect I'll get a proper ride on Sunday. I see what you mean about runaway power - with the 'High' mode selected, it's obviously keen to escape, which is exhilarating. The 'Low' mode is much more subtle.

I think I need to explore more fully to see what it does before I bother the staff at e-Bikes.

Incidentally I have no complaints about their service - the bike arrived with a broken Shimano speed change, which of course I let them know about right away and a replacement turned up the following morning. They don't keep the web site up to date though - my bike is still 'awaiting despatch'

I hope the de restricted mode is not a casualty of the latest version - I'll be a little disappointed if it's now limited to 15 mph. The label on the rear wheel motor says '200W' which doesn't bode well. Especially as the specification being posted everywhere (including the Wisper site) still specifies almost 20mph with motor assistance.

Rog.

 

[Mussels]

The label on the rear wheel motor says '200W' which doesn't bode well.

They all have that, doesn't mean much so you don't have a lesser version.

 

[flecc]

The label on the rear wheel motor says '200W' which doesn't bode well.

Rog.

The 200W (UK) and 250W (EU) are nominal continuous ratings for legal purposes and don't indicate the maximums the motors are capable of. None are this low powered and yours has a maximum power of around 500 Watts, being one of the higher powered e-bikes on the market.
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[rog_london]

Thank you again, gentlemen. I'm an engineer myself (electronics mainly) so not too likely to jump to conclusions and make a nuisance of myself with the supplier. First impressions are that you really do 'cheat' the system because that motor assistance makes you a fast rider even if, in reality, you're not.

Also, as I suspected, I'll want to ride this often, with the result that my fitness will improve. I need to resist temptation just a little though as I've been suffering from pre-Christmas lurgy and although that has passed I can't shake the cough. Still, it's forecast to warm up next week (hooray!) which will help us all.

 

[Howard]

I'm an engineer myself (electronics mainly) so not too likely to jump to conclusions and make a nuisance of myself with the supplier.

Not sure who your actual supplier is, but please rest assured that Doug and David at Wisper have never made me feel like a nuisance - they have always gone out of their way to make sure I'm happy with my Wisper, and as far as I know this is the same experience that all Wisper owners have had. I think they appreciate the feedback as well, as they do take it seriously.

First impressions are that you really do 'cheat' the system because that motor assistance makes you a fast rider even if, in reality, you're not.

That's the plan

Still, it's forecast to warm up next week (hooray!) which will help us all.

Woohooo! I've been holding off on the commuting - I'm not as mad as some other member forums who cycle on the ice! Maybe I'll be able to get back into it soon

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Hi Lo

Hi Guys

Just back from China checking out the latest models, so sorry I have not been about to answer your questions.

The new Hi Lo is exactly what Eddeio says. Many people had mentioned that in heavy traffic the standard fixed 80% was too powerful, so we added this little tweak on all our bikes. The Low setting gives 20% of the motor's power and the Hi setting gives you 80% on pedelec mode. If you set the bike to low you can then use the throttle to adjust the power from 20% right the way up to 100% to make the bike precisely as responsive as you feel is correct for the road conditions.

The green button is still here and it's advantage is that it keeps the power assist on even when you are pedaling at over 15mph. It is not a nitrox booster although many people would like it to be! The de-restrict button should only be used when off the public highway.

The throttle should work from standstill on UK spec bikes, if it does not there is a very easy tweak to make it do so.

All the best David

 

[rog_london]

Thank you, David. On my bike it definitely doesn't work from standstill - so if there is an easy 'tweak' I'd be very happy to hear about it. I couldn't detect any effect at all from the throttle during my short ride.

Rog.

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Controller

Hi Rog

It sounds as if we have given you a EC rules bike in error.

I have asked Dick Lai our China manager to drop you a line with the tweak, but I am pretty certain it is simply a case of disconnecting the purple wire from the controller.

Best regards David

 

[rog_london]

Some progress

Thanks for that David.

I think I've resolved one problem - I have been going over the bike tightening screws and checking plugs (like you do!) and now the throttle does work in pedelec mode, which wasn't the case before. Once you gave me the info as to how it worked in relation to the low/high speed control, I sort of knew what I was looking for.

If the bike will also operate on throttle only, that's fine, although I don't really plan to ride it that way. I have a motorbike for doing that.

One problem with electric bikes by mail order - the supplier isn't conveniently located around the corner, and getting it back to be sorted is not really practical - but this forum more than makes up for that.

Rog.

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Mail order

Hi Rog

I am delighted to hear all is well now.

If you have any more problems my email address is david@wisperbike.com (no s) or Norman our service manager can be reached on;

service@wisperbikes.com

We can normally quickly sort out any problems on the phone or by email.

Best regards David

 

[wotwozere]

Hi

do they not have internet in China.

how does a nitro work on electric vehicles is this a new invention?

thx

Bob

 

[Mussels]

Hi

do they not have internet in China.

how does a nitro work on electric vehicles is this a new invention?

thx

Bob

Bit early for the scotch isn't it? I've had a fair bit myself so maybe we can have a dragging up old thread competition tonight.

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Hi

do they not have internet in China.

how does a nitro work on electric vehicles is this a new invention?

thx

Bob

Hi Bob

Yes they do, but for some reason I can never get the Pedelec site (or the Wisper site) when in China.

Nitro? It was a little joke like saying a turbo button.

Best regards David

 

[flecc]

for some reason I can never get the Pedelec site (or the Wisper site) when in China.

Best regards David

The internet in China is subject to censorship, not all world content accessible. Perhaps our occasional comments on Chinese quality control have led to filtering out of the Pedelecs site, but why Wisper should be inaccessible I don't know.

Perhaps they don't like Chinese companies being owned by UK principals.
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[rog_london]

I do know that 'Wisper' comes up in the search engines in many totally unrelated areas - it only needs any one of these to have given offence to the Chinese censors, and there you are, gone! Probably nothing whatsoever to do with your business at all.

One small additional thing - it might be a DNS problem. If you wanted to access either this site or the Wisper site, you could try the direct approach of entering the dot-quad address.