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Wisper also have the Wayfarer on the near horizon.

Welcome Dan. Can`t help you with your issue, but hopefully someone else can. May`be not wise to advertise your mobile number.

The bike looks fantastic. Tempted to upgrade from my 2018 806SE. I`ll hopefully get a test drive when a demonstrator arrives with Neill in Edinburgh.

CaptainCol, I have a Wisper bike and I`m on the West Coast of Scotland. It`s not always the `big` brands that get interest, sometimes the smaller brands and retailers have better customer relationships and back up service. A bit like small family owned car dealers!

David, you need to read more on the downloadable app for Giant bikes. That model of Giant bike was at the top of my list also, until I researched in greater detail. The bike is apparently great, the app the exact opposite.

Welcome Ben. It`s probably not wise to give your mobile number!

That`s handy, carrying a toilet with you when you are out on the bike! Wouldn`t have thought of that.

I read it just in case there is actually something to do with electric bikes. Not much of it recently, though.

Can I join you from Scotland? Give it a break, it's just becoming boring now.

Thanks, Woosh, good luck with the new arrival, looks great.

Is the frame size suitable for a rider who is 5'7" (1.7m)? ...short inside leg...!

I think the battery was located on the tube beneath the saddle. That appears to be the seat of the fire.

No problem. Enjoy your e bike.

Hi David, welcome to the forum. Whilst I can`t answer your question, I can advise that this is, at most times, a friendly forum. Your use of CAPITAL letters appears as though you are "shouting". I suspect that you are unaware of this. Anyway, it is a very useful forum with a lot of people with knowledge of e bikes. Stay tuned.

Count me in...Len in G64 (not Lenin)!

Woosh, a smaller frame for those of us that are only 5' 7" would be useful....my legs would be dangling! But we do need more choice of bikes with hub gears for those of us that have decided to go down that road (no pun intended). The Batribike Omega has a rear Nexus hub with front wheel motor.

I expect David from Wisper will be interested in the issues, and interested in getting them resolved.

Welcome! Tell us more re your choice of ebike, please.

As I said in an earlier post, I had considered Trek District/Stagger, Kalkhoff Image 5B Move and Giant Dailytour E + 1. Then Ocsid threw the Raleigh Centros Grand Tour into the mix! (Thank you Ocsid). So I re visited the web in relation to Giant, and whilst the bikes get a good write up (and I think they look great), the very poor comments re the App seem to be growing. So I think I have to dismiss the Yamaha powered machine. Shame. So that leaves Kalkhoff v Raleigh. The Kalkhoff is slightly more expensive by £200 or so. But a lot of the major components are the same - 500Wh battery, Bosch Active Line + motor (50Nm), Shimano M315 hydraulic brakes, Nexus 8spd hub gear. Schwalbe Energiser + on the Kalkhoff, Marathon on the Raleigh. Bosch Purion on Kalkhoff, Intuvia on Raleigh. So there really is nothing in it. And there probably shouldn`t be, since they are indeed made in the same factory. So I think the Raleigh wins it, and the £200 saving could be used on bits and pieces for the bike. This is my view on a hub gear bike, not whether the system is better than derailleurs or not.

What happened to the discussion on geared hubs with belts...we seem to have drifted on to conversions.

New Member to the site, and 1st post...ElectricJoe and GSV3MiaC, exactly the position I am in! I have been getting ideas and views from Pedelecs for months, and have chased, researched and considered all...have sort of whittled it down to Trek District and Stagger range, Giant Dailytour E + 1 belt drive, Yamaha motor, 60Nm and 8spd hub (until I read that the Giant App appears to be rubbish and is well slated) so that might be that one off the list, and now looking at Kalkhoff Image 5B Move. Have already been through every bike from Wisper, Juicy, Whoosh. My brain is befuddled thinking about it! Any other ideas please post.