July 11, 201411 yr Depends on the motor wind and the controller current limit. A similar one on ebay states 35nm and 35 kph on 36v at 500w, but it could be totally different.
July 11, 201411 yr Author Thanks for all that info d8veh. Wouldn't have thought about widening the frame. Scared it may have snapped. I have ordered 2 torque arms from Cycleeze via amazon. If Cycleeze could give them a hurry up it would be appreciated....... Unfortunately the build is now on hold until Monday as I need to fix a leaking flat roof over the weekend. Boo. Can't do much until the torque arms arrive anyway. Enjoy your bikes while the sun is shining.
July 11, 201411 yr Thanks for all that info d8veh. Wouldn't have thought about widening the frame. Scared it may have snapped. I have ordered 2 torque arms from Cycleeze via amazon. If Cycleeze could give them a hurry up it would be appreciated....... Unfortunately the build is now on hold until Monday as I need to fix a leaking flat roof over the weekend. Boo. Can't do much until the torque arms arrive anyway. Enjoy your bikes while the sun is shining. Hi Mark, I'm in London this evening, order received at 21.58 and they will be sent by 1st class post tomorrow.
July 11, 201411 yr Author Hi Mark, I'm in London this evening, order received at 21.58 and they will be sent by 1st class post tomorrow. Brilliant. Thanks.
July 12, 201411 yr Hi Mark, Got back from London just after 1.30 am this morning, train crawling along at 50 mph, Virgin on the ridiculous, then a Pearl Jam fan jam at CMK station following their concert at MK Bowl, a mile long queue for taxis, got into bed at 2 am, up at 6, processed order, torque plate sets in the post, the rest is down to Royal Mail. Now off to work;)
July 12, 201411 yr Hi Mark, Got back from London just after 1.30 am this morning, train crawling along at 50 mph, Virgin on the ridiculous, then a Pearl Jam fan jam at CMK station following their concert at MK Bowl, a mile long queue for taxis, got into bed at 2 am, up at 6, processed order, torque plate sets in the post, the rest is down to Royal Mail. Now off to work;) That's the trouble with you independent dealers - no commitment! Excellent service
July 12, 201411 yr Author Hi Mark, Got back from London just after 1.30 am this morning, train crawling along at 50 mph, Virgin on the ridiculous, then a Pearl Jam fan jam at CMK station following their concert at MK Bowl, a mile long queue for taxis, got into bed at 2 am, up at 6, processed order, torque plate sets in the post, the rest is down to Royal Mail. Now off to work;) What can I say. Amazon confirm items dispatched. Thanks again.
July 13, 201411 yr That's the trouble with you independent dealers - no commitment! Excellent service Point taken Phil, must try harder:(
July 14, 201411 yr Author Torque arms arrived today. Excellent quality. Actually managed to fit them to both sides of bike without much difficulty. Quickly connected up the battery, controller, LCD and throttle with the bike upside down for a quick systems check. Worked straight away. Full throttle indicated 61 kph, 38 mph. Haven't set the wheel size or other paramaters in the LCD yet so bit meaningless. Now I know it all appears to be working, will get the most puncture proof tyre and tube I can because I don't feel like dismantling the back end including torque arms etc in the middle of nowhere in the rain. Anyone got any recommendations for a really good puncture resistant tyre and tube please.
July 16, 201411 yr Evening All, Well, after two days of enjoyable if a little challenging work my new bike, which I'm calling Green Machine is finished. As a complete novice I found the rear wheel fit a little challenging..I didn't expect to have to change the freewheel and the one from the original wheel was not a screw on type. A suitable unit was sourced and fitted..and after a little messing with the rear disc it all fitted fine. A big thanks to Cyclezee for supplying the torque arm and much helpful advice..sorry for disturbing you at home! I've now set the LCD controller up..can anyone advise if setting the speed to max fully de restricts the motor? On the first test ride I was a little disappointed with its hill climbing but it does have my not inconsiderable 18 stone bulk to carry around..on the flat it flys along nicely! More to follow when I've done a few more miles. Cheers, Phil. Edited July 16, 201411 yr by Phil T
July 16, 201411 yr Hi Phil, It was nice to meet your today and it looks like you have made a neat job of the installation although it did have to flip the photos to see it properly;) Be careful out there, according to this thread MK is a bad place http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/milton-keynes.18325/
July 16, 201411 yr Nice looking build Phil, no torque arms though... Will this be an issue I wonder. How is it down under?
July 16, 201411 yr Is there a problem with my photos gents? First time I've downloaded any..they are right way up according to my I Pad but I did notice the thumbnails were upside down... Torque arm on the offside if you look closely..
July 16, 201411 yr Is there a problem with my photos gents? First time I've downloaded any..they are right way up according to my I Pad but I did notice the thumbnails were upside down... Torque arm on the offside if you look closely.. Hi Phil, The photo doesn't show what the torque plate is secured to in order to prevent rotation, did you just use the part with the axle slot?
July 16, 201411 yr If anyone knows how to turn the photos around I would appreciate it, they appear the right way up on my screen but alas not yours!! My apologies gents.....
July 16, 201411 yr The bolt through the torque plate is hard up against the aperture in the swing arm and therefore can't move..
July 16, 201411 yr The bolt through the torque plate is hard up against the aperture in the swing arm and therefore can't move.. OK, thanks Phil I think I can see it now.
July 17, 201411 yr Author Evening All, Well, after two days of enjoyable if a little challenging work my new bike, which I'm calling Green Machine is finished. As a complete novice I found the rear wheel fit a little challenging..I didn't expect to have to change the freewheel and the one from the original wheel was not a screw on type. A suitable unit was sourced and fitted..and after a little messing with the rear disc it all fitted fine. A big thanks to John from Cyclezee for supplying the torque arm and much helpful advice..sorry for disturbing you at home! I've now set the LCD controller up..can anyone advise if setting the speed to max fully de restricts the motor? On the first test ride I was a little disappointed with its hill climbing but it does have my not inconsiderable 18 stone bulk to carry around..on the flat it flys along nicely! More to follow when I've done a few more miles. Cheers, Phil. [ATTACH=full]9051[/ATTACH] Hi Phil You got yours fitted a lot quicker than I have. Looks great and really neatly done.I'm not sure about the derestrict. When I set the parameters in the LCD it showed the max speed as 72 mph I think, so I have left it at that for now. I am nearly there now, just struggling with the rear brake caliper. Haven't got the clearance for the calliper between the disc and the motor. My caliper is hydraulic but I notice yours is a cable pull type. Did you have any problem with the calliper clearance? Has your calliper got a makers name or model number on it? I will probably get a cable pull calliper anyway so I can use the electric cut off brake lever that came with the kit. Will let you know how fast mine goes on the flat and how it climbs, bearing in mind I am a little lighter (12 stone) than your good self. d8veh has described how I may be able to get the calliper to fit with spacers and slight frame widening but I would prefer to do it with a slimmer calliper if possible. Keep us informed on how you get on Phil.
July 17, 201411 yr Cable disc brake calipers can be wider than hydraulic ones. The cheapest ones like the ones for the £100 disc brake bikes are quite thin. I don't know who makes them, but they're pretty useless anyway. There's a thread on Endless-Sphere about it, where loads of people measured theirs and published the results so you know which one to get. With a rear motor or front with non - suspension forks you can use a disc spacer between the disc and motor.
July 18, 201411 yr Hi Mark,my calliper went on OK, There was a spacer on the motor which I ende up removing and it then fitted fine. I'm away this weekend but when I get home I'll have a look at the calliper and give you some details. I agree with d8veh though, the cable calipers are not great so finding a way to fit your hydraulic would be favourite. I haven't bothered with the cut out levers.. Cheers, Phil.
July 19, 201411 yr Author Finally got on the road for a quick test, albeit without a rear brake. All worked well, throttle without pedalling on the flat got to 20mph before maxing out. Pedal assist also got to about 21 mph before cutting out. Max speed in the settings within the LCD is showing at 72mph so it is obviously restricted somewhere else. Accidentally found some other settings within the LCD of P1, P2, P3, P4, P5. These all had a different number against them. Possibly they have some bearing on the power/speed limit. Does anyone know what these P settings do? Obviously on the Cyclotricity web site it says you have to contact them to get the derestriction code and sign a disclaimer to say you will only use the de restricted mode on private land, so will be contacting Rami at Cyclotricity to see what I need to do. Will keep everyone updated.
July 22, 201411 yr Author Have had the derestriction info from Cyclotricity. Bike accelerates a LOT faster. Reached about 29 mph on the flat on just the throttle (on private land). Couldn't pedal fast enough on the pedal assist. The freewheel has a 14 tooth on the smallest spocket. Will change it as soon as I can for one with 11T. I have to say I am really pleased with the kit. In the restricted mode, from full charge to dead battery, using lots of max throttle and PAS setting 4 and 5, I did over 40 miles. The bike weighs in at about 24Kg. I am 73Kg. Over that period I averaged over 18 mph with VERY light pedalling or no pedalling. On my commute, which is a 13 mile round trip on mainly flat smooth surface, I have to say the restricted mode is more than adequate. I estimate in unrestricted mode, and using full power a lot of the time, the range would be down to about 20 (exciting) miles. It really does accelerate hard up to its max speed. Maybe the 500 watt kit would have been a good compromise. I have never used a front hub motor as this is my first ebike, but I think I would prefer this rear drive solution, especially with this extra power. Fitting the rear kit would definitely be more involved than a front hub which I imagine is relatively straight forward in comparison. Torque arms are a must, and I am still to resolve my lack of rear brake, although I have plans!! I leave the house at the same time as I used to drive to the station, and get to work 15 minutes earlier, and not at all tired or sweaty. Have yet to see rain though. Will keep records of battery life over the next few days and give a more accurate assessment on range. Up to now, I am loving my new ebike. Hope the sun keeps shining.
July 23, 201411 yr You've been doing 29mph, on the flat, with no back brake? You're a braver man that I
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