46.8V / 12Ah = 562 Wh http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif

 

Col - Will the new larger capacity battery plug&play in older 2014 models? is the battery the same size and weight? The older 8.8Ah battery is giving me more than enough range and capability just looking forward a few years when it'll need replacing/upgrading.

Col, what is the price of the eStreet P?

 

Kind regards, Michael

The 2015 eStreet P has a RRP of £2099.99

I was going to ask the very same question Wicky, also thinking forward to the future.

Edited August 26, 201411 yr by TinKitten

Like the thought....but if I go with more power (the endeavour is a 28mph rated bike?) I may as well go the whole hog and dust off the old triumph...so there is a balance to be struck. I've also had enough bike accidents over years to try and keep legal....the rozzers would not even think about checking the bike out....but the lawyers would if I dive into the side of (yet another) taxi!

 

You should try a Focus Thron Premium - won a couple of ExtraEnergy awards this year as the best all-terrain e-bike. Bigger battery capacity than the KTM, crank drive with 70Nm torque, full suspension.

 

http://www.50cycles.com/assets/images/12/6145110210.jpg

http://www.50cycles.com/electric-bikes/all-terrain/thron_impulse_premium.html

 

http://www.50cycles.com/electric-bikes/all-terrain.html

 

Takes some beating - I've been all over the South Downs on one of those. We've a couple of them in our Shoreham-by-Sea showroom at the moment.

There is also a full suspenion version with Panasonic hub drive. The same system which won the mountain test beating Impulse, Bosch amongst other motors. Retail is just £2699 with the larger battery. Battery capacity is only slightly smaller than bike above plus it is nearly £1000 less

There is also a full suspenion version with Panasonic hub drive. The same system which won the mountain test beating Impulse, Bosch amongst other motors. Retail is just £2699 with the larger battery. Battery capacity is only slightly smaller than bike above plus it is nearly £1000 less [ATTACH=full]9429[/ATTACH]

where does one get a copy of the mountain test, it sounds gripping reading to a nerd like me..

Europe’s leading e-bike magazine “ElektroRad” tested several e-bikes focusing on their climbing qualities. Result: Highest reach and highest efficiency for KTM's Panasonic equipped eBike !, and the Germans know a thing or two about testing eBikes.

 

 

 

"About 20% on average on the uphill section. All the bikes are given the same route, rider + bike = 100kgs, batteries charged to full. The race continues until the batteries run out.

 

From Regenhuette, they set off for 6.7km on fairly flat ground to the bottom of the mountain (800m altitude) then climb up to Arberseehaus (1000m altitude), the steepest section is 25%. Most of the weak bikes die here. Only the KTM with Panasonic motor carried on to Bretterschachten (1200m altitude), the average gradient is around 22% on this section. The KTM with the Panasonic hub drive is the best by far.

 

Very impressive."

 

Link below

 

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.730098453682963.1073741853.200160223343458&type=1

 

Hope this helps.

Europe’s leading e-bike magazine “ElektroRad” tested several e-bikes focusing on their climbing qualities. Result: Highest reach and highest efficiency for KTM's Panasonic equipped eBike !, and the Germans know a thing or two about testing eBikes.

 

 

 

"About 20% on average on the uphill section. All the bikes are given the same route, rider + bike = 100kgs, batteries charged to full. The race continues until the batteries run out.

 

From Regenhuette, they set off for 6.7km on fairly flat ground to the bottom of the mountain (800m altitude) then climb up to Arberseehaus (1000m altitude), the steepest section is 25%. Most of the weak bikes die here. Only the KTM with Panasonic motor carried on to Bretterschachten (1200m altitude), the average gradient is around 22% on this section. The KTM with the Panasonic hub drive is the best by far.

 

Very impressive."

 

Link below

 

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.730098453682963.1073741853.200160223343458&type=1

 

Hope this helps.

many thanks..

Sorry to derail the thread. Is that the hill leading up from Pycombe/Clayton up to Ditchling Beacon. If it is, it's certainly a very fast and scary hill to ride down, particularly the lower section, and it must have been quite a lengthy climb up.

 

I'm back down that way again this coming weekend to take part in an Evans ride it event. http://www.evanscycles.com/pages/rideit-brighton-mtb-ride-30th-august-2014 I'm currently unsure whether to risk it on the BH with it's dire reliability, or whether to just bite the bullet, and use a newly acquired pedal MTB. I'll probably do the latter.

 

Yup! There's a man who knows his Downs and his chalk, steep and scary yes, but not at my sort of speed. Have to say the eRaceP climbed it fine.

The mountain test referred to above is a very curious one. It seems like a simple idea but exactly what is being tested is not clear. As no one (to my knowledge) claims vast differences in efficiencies between motors, the only logical conclusion is that the Panasonic drive gave substantially less assistance than all the other motors in the test. This would not usually be considered a selling point.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the Panasonic hub motor but I don't think that this test 'proves' that it is better or more powerful than Bosch / Impulse etc.

Fair point but I have ridden all three and prefer the Panasonic hub drive myself. This is despite selling more Bosch bikes. One of the reasons I like it is you have a front chain ring so the gear ratio is around twice that of most crank drives. In the highest assistance mode it provides 400% asssistance. It is down to personal choice. That is why it is always best to try a few different models with a variety of motors.

Fair point but I have ridden all three and prefer the Panasonic hub drive myself. This is despite selling more Bosch bikes. One of the reasons I like it is you have a front chain ring so the gear ratio is around twice that of most crank drives. In the highest assistance mode it provides 400% asssistance. It is down to personal choice. That is why it is always best to try a few different models with a variety of motors.

 

That's another reason that I like hub drive so much. The freedom of choice to select different gearing is pretty much infinite. The same can't be said about about crank drive.

Arguments about wheel changing* don't stack up either. I can remove and replace the rear wheel on either the BH or on the superb KTM that I tested, in less than five minutes. In fact it's easier than on my Haibike.

 

 

*Someone will throw it up.