Hi Folks

 

It looks as though ProC2W* might be looked upon favourably at work so buying a decent (expensive) ebike is looking more attractive. I am trying to discover all of the (road legal) ebikes with integral batteries and wheels 26"+, and have come up with the following manufacturers/models: -

 

Stromer ST1/ST2

Smart eBike

Kalkhoff Integrale (various versions)

Grace Easy

 

Have I missed anything else? I much prefer hub gears. Deraileurs being the work of the devil.

 

The Stromers are beyond the budget.

I am not sure if you can actually buy a Smart. They are certainly well hidden from my normal circles of activity!

The Kalkhoff looks nice, except for the 28" wheels, but still no response from a sales enquiry when mentioning ProC2W.

I am not sure if there is a Grace Easy reseller in the UK.

 

Thanks a lot folks. I am sure that I will make a decision eventually - someone just needs to make the right bike AND be responsive to potential sales enquiries!

 

Thanks

 

Andy

 

*ProC2W allows cycle to work customers to escape the £1,000 ceiling of C2W.

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/e-bike-to-work

Just a word of warning against integral batteries.

 

General rule- tend to be on small side ie low range

 

Forced into buying replacement battery from that supplier at , usually, vastly inflated prices

Just a word of warning against integral batteries.

 

General rule- tend to be on small side ie low range

 

Forced into buying replacement battery from that supplier at , usually, vastly inflated prices

I agree th BH brand has lovely looking built in batteries at a price

Just a word of warning against integral batteries. General rule- tend to be on small side ie low range. Forced into buying replacement battery from that supplier at , usually, vastly inflated prices

 

I must admit that I didn't realise that there was any interchangeability across different brands of external batteries. I probably need to get back to the mainland more often.

I agree th BH brand has lovely looking built in batteries at a price

 

Who is BH? Thanks

The Smart has been discontinued. There might still be the odd ones left in Mercedes/Smart car dealerships, but best avoided since spares will not remain available, judging by Mercedes last venture into a similar e-bike.

 

And I agree with the above posters, don't tie yourself into the one battery supplier at the risk of high price or even discontinuation. One well known maker's integrated battery model had the battery supply discontinued after just one year.

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I must admit that I didn't realise that there was any interchangeability across different brands of external batteries. I probably need to get back to the mainland more often.

 

There isn't a lot of interchangability, but the freedom of mounting of non-integrated models gives other options and keeps prices down.

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Who is BH? Thanks

 

 

BH is a very long established Spanish bicycle maker, entering the e-bike market a few years ago:

 

Link to BH

 

Link to their e-bikes

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Bulls, Giant and Rodwild offer intergrated hub driven bikes as do BH Revo

Bulls, Giant and Rodwild offer intergrated hub driven bikes as do BH Revo

 

And Sparta with the e-speed model.

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Emu cycles have integrated batteries and hub gears.

Oxygen's new S Cross range have integrated batteries.

Thanks a lot folks. There's certainly a lot that I had not heard of previously.

a replacement oxygen 13ah battery is £400 though

Our new Kudos Stealth,Alamo and Sprint all have semi concealed 11Ah batteries,replacement cost about £250.00

KudosDave

Our new Kudos Stealth,Alamo and Sprint all have semi concealed 11Ah batteries,replacement cost about £250.00

KudosDave

 

Are there any images of these available?

Are there any images of these available?

 

Link 1 to Stealth/Alamo post

 

Link 2 to other images and specs.

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The pictures on this link are stock pictures.

 

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/some-advance-info-on-the-latest-2016-kudos-models.24151/#post-305486

 

for example, the Alamo's picture shows Magura HS11 brakes while the specs say Tektro V-brakes. The picture of the Sprint shows TX CD motor, the specs say rear hub motor. The Milano's picture shows front hub, the specs say rear hub.

The pictures on this link are stock pictures.

 

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/some-advance-info-on-the-latest-2016-kudos-models.24151/#post-305486

 

for example, the Alamo's picture shows Magura HS11 brakes while the specs say Tektro V-brakes. The picture of the Sprint shows TX CD motor, the specs say rear hub motor. The Milano's picture shows front hub, the specs say rear hub.

 

Correct,that's why it says 'draft info', when the actual bikes arrive UK,we will take studio shots and refine the specs for the brochure. Some Pedelec members are interested in these bikes so I am giving as much detail as I can. The specs are more accurate than the photos.

I have a personal dislike for front hub motors,they often produce oversteer problems especially with a powerful motor in the wet.

We deleted the Magura brakes because of availability problems. The Sprint we moved the motor to the rear,similarly the Milano and Verona moved the motor to the rear,for foregoing reasons.

KudosDave

Edited June 15, 20169 yr by Kudoscycles

It's taking forever to get anything set up at work. Still no response from 50 Cycles. I can see that it will be another couple of years before this moves any further forward. The money is available to buy outright, but it just seems stupid when ProC2W is available.

 

Thanks a lot for your input. If anything changes I will let you know.

Ariel Rider Has integrated battery.

Ariel Rider Has integrated battery.

Hi and welcome. That bike is ..shall I say ...an acquired taste......lol

I think that it is more a case of let's build a big box around our battery! It certainly turns the head, although I am unsure in which direction!

Edited July 7, 20169 yr by Templogin

Sure it has a unique look. At least i would want to give a try if i had chance but don't find so many locations. Or let me confess i would buy too. I love those old school motorbike lookin e-bikes.

 

Also sure it isn't a Stromer .

Personally the one i like most is BH. I feel they spend most time in designing Integrated battery without increasing weight of bike dramatically.