Just seen this one on BBC website.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-59854204

Those things appear to be very unstable. Here's one I witnessed, he toppled over for no apparent reason. Didn't even collide with a badger:

 

Umrelated but also in the news today, a fire at Bristol has destroyed hunders of rental E-scooters https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10362367/Hundreds-rental-e-scooters-damaged-warehouse-fire-Bristol.html

Umrelated but also in the news today, a fire at Bristol has destroyed hunders of rental E-scooters https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10362367/Hundreds-rental-e-scooters-damaged-warehouse-fire-Bristol.html

Looks as if Bristol will be a safer place, at least for a few weeks.

Many condolences to his friends & family.

 

He was quite old as e scooter riders go, but I've said before - on this forum - that in my experience e scooter riders don't look where they're going.

 

In this instance, given the fact it was a suburban road in broad daylight, the accident looked very avoidable.

Manchester Evening News has a little more detail:

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/most-generous-granddad-died-after-22628201

Manchester Evening News has a little more detail:

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/most-generous-granddad-died-after-22628201

 

Sheesh, that was a hard read.

Tbh at 74, he should have been wiser and known better.

Arm/knee pads and a helmet should be mandatory on these machines with tiny wheels as any slight surface imperfection could have you off in a jiffy.

 

Totally different vehicle reaction to that of a bike hitting surface imperfections and helmets are ideal for an off not involving another moving target.

Edited January 3, 20224 yr by Nealh

The reported bleed in the brain may indicate that he wasn't wearing a helmet.

Tbh at 74, he should have been wiser and known better.

Arm/knee pads and a helmet should be mandatory on these machines with tiny wheels as any slight surface imperfection could have you off in a jiffy.

 

Totally different vehicle reaction to that of a bike hitting surface imperfections and helmets are ideal for an off not involving another moving target.

 

Pavements should be safe places to walk. In addition to scooter riders being required to wear all that gear, if scooters of any speed are to be allowed on pavements, pedestrians should be required to wear protective gear too - otherwise scooterists should wear protective gear and be required to take their chances on the road! Any elderly person being knocked over by a scooter, is going to have a nasty outcome. There should be a crackdown with heavy fines, prison terms, points on licenses, public flogging etc. for any escooter use in public spaces.

Edited January 4, 20224 yr by guerney

Problem in the UK is law enforcement is so liberal, it actually perpetuates crime to occur. Out of the G7/8 countries we must be the one with least presence of a police force, a scant few police driving around and only unmarked cars likely to stop anyone and they will in the main be motorists. Else where in the world the police forces appear to be stronger on anti social behaviour and there presence are not just a token gesture.

 

One only has to look and see the anti social behaviour that occurs, boy racers and there noisy popping banging cars, my local Sainburys car park is race track most weeks nights with them meeting and racing around. Bike riders with no lights at all (I don't call them cyclists), scooters on main roads and paths causing danger, speeding cars in built up areas and as I witnessed over the weekend even over taking two or three cars to do in 30 zone. One can go on and on.

 

We simply don't have the enforcement to crack down harder and I'm with you Guerney fines are punitive and can hardly be called a deterrent.

Problem in the UK is law enforcement is so liberal, it actually perpetuates crime to occur. Out of the G7/8 countries we must be the one with least presence of a police force, a scant few police driving around and only unmarked cars likely to stop anyone and they will in the main be motorists. Else where in the world the police forces appear to be stronger on anti social behaviour and there presence are not just a token gesture.

 

Looking at European countries with similar population eg France, Italy, Spain they all have more than double the the number of police officers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers

Looking at European countries with similar population eg France, Italy, Spain they all have more than double the the number of police officers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers

 

The result of decades of austerity going back as far as the early 1970s. All in the name of trying to pretend we are still a leading country in the world by draining essential services of resources.

 

The police, all branches of the military, the roads network, the NHS as you well know, the care services, ambulance and fire services, investment in adequate housing, investment in industry, all cut to the bone.

 

Meanwhile, a policy of baby farming in nurseries to push women into full time employment simply to get a larger income tax take by greatly enlarging the employment pool.

 

It all goes back to trying to have a services economy instead of a truly productive one producing what the world wants to buy.

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Edited January 5, 20224 yr by flecc