March 17Mar 17 WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LUNATIC TRUMP IS. This man is entirely divorced from facts and reality. He is delusional. He is unfit of any office, let alone one which allows him so much uncontested leeway.
March 17Mar 17 Don't under-estimate the American war machine. Their marines expedition group may succeed in controlling HORMUZ in a couple of weeks.
March 17Mar 17 https://news.usni.org/2026/03/17/uss-gerald-r-ford-headed-to-souda-bay-for-repairs-after-fire
March 18Mar 18 Iran doesn't have to gain upper hand, they just have to keep hormuz closed (few long distance drones can do that, unless the west deploy massive costly force). Perhaps they'll settle for ceasefire, but level of us/Israeli aggression, bluster would make it quite meaningless. Hormuz, in the end, is far more effective than 400kt bombs It is obvious that you and other lefty agitators here are rooting for Iran as the 'victim'. To do so, entirely ignores the appalling behaviour of the Mullah led, escatologically* inspired regime. I asked Google AI to list the misconduct of the regime, and will break with my usual practice of not plastering entire AI responses all over the forum, because if I don't, I doubt you will actually read it (probably - as before - dismissing any view you don't like as 'propaganda'. Here it is: As of March 2026, Iran is embroiled in a severe domestic and international crisis characterized by unprecedented levels of state-led repression and an escalation into direct regional conflict. Domestic Policy & Human Rights Violations The Iranian government has significantly intensified its crackdown on dissent, particularly following the re-emergence of nationwide protests in late 2025 and early 2026. [1, 2] Mass Executions: In 2025, Iran carried out a record-breaking number of executions, with estimates ranging from 1,500 to over 2,200—the highest in nearly 40 years. Charges: Over half of these were for drug-related offences, which violates international law regarding "most serious crimes". Political Use: The death penalty is increasingly used as a tool of political repression against protesters and activists, often following trials lasting only minutes. [*]Violent Suppression of Protests: Security forces have reportedly used lethal force, including assault rifles and machine guns, against largely unarmed demonstrators. Casualties: Credible reports suggest thousands of civilians have been killed or injured during the January 2026 crackdown. Specific Atrocities: UN experts have documented a "vicious pattern" of security forces firing metal pellets into the faces and eyes of protesters. [*]Systemic Torture and Sexual Violence: Detainees, including children, have been subjected to rape, gang rape, beatings, electric shocks, and forced confessions. [*]Persecution of Women: Authorities continue to enforce mandatory hijab laws through digital surveillance and physical harassment, characterizing those who resist as "enemies" or having "mental disorders". [*]Information Blackouts: The government frequently imposes near-total internet shutdowns to hide evidence of atrocities and disrupt protest coordination. [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13] International & Regional Crimes Iran's international actions have shifted from proxy-based "asymmetric" warfare to direct military confrontation and transnational repression. [14] Direct Military Escalation: Following a period of heightened tension, Iran engaged in direct hostilities with Israel and the US in 2025 and early 2026. Retaliatory Strikes: Iran has conducted missile and drone attacks across the region that have killed civilians and damaged infrastructure in neighboring countries. [*]Transnational Repression: The regime has expanded its use of criminal networks in Western countries to target dissidents, journalists, and foreign politicians. Assassination Plots: Operatives linked to Iran have been accused of plotting to assassinate foreign leaders, including a 2024 plot targeting Donald Trump. [*]Maritime Interference: Iran and its proxies (such as the Houthis) have been linked to GPS spoofing and electronic interference affecting over 1,100 ships in the Gulf region, creating significant risks to global trade and maritime safety. [*]State-Sponsored Cyberattacks: Iran-linked groups have launched massive cyber campaigns involving "wipers" and DDoS attacks targeting critical infrastructure in the US, Israel, and several Gulf states. [*]Sanctions Evasion & Illicit Financing: The regime continues to use cryptocurrencies and fragmented international financial networks to fund designated terrorist groups and bypass global sanctions. [15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25] [1] https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk [2] https://www.ncr-iran.org [3] https://www.ohchr.org [4] https://www.bbc.com [5] https://www.ncr-iran.org [6] https://www.barrons.com [7] https://www.hrw.org [8] https://deathpenaltyinfo.org [9] https://www.amnesty.org [10] [11] [12] https://www.hrw.org [13] https://iranhumanrights.org [14] https://news.un.org [15] https://icct.nl [16] https://en.wikipedia.org [17] https://www.ohchr.org [18] https://reliefweb.int [19] https://understandingwar.org [20] https://www.iranintl.com [21] https://theconversation.com [22] https://www.csis.org [23] https://industrialcyber.co [24] https://www.dsci.in [25] https://www.acams.org *Iran is an international pariah for very good reason. It is aggressive and hellbent on dominating the region in pursuit of the idea that its lost Supreme Leader will return from the dead to oversee the triumph of Shia religion all over the planet. This is what I meant by the use of the word 'eschatological' above where the first asterisk was used. It is a term used to refer to religious views based on a belief in 'end times' where God's rule (their rule) will dominate the Earth and all enemies will be vanquished. The idea that a fundamentalist group, dedicated to bringing about the end of the world in pursuit of some eternal kingdom or their imagining, can be allowed to develop a ballistic missile programme and nuclear weapons is atrocious and extremely dangerous. Only complete nutters would side with such a regime against the actions of Israel and the United States. Israel for one is NOT GOING TO TOLERATE any further threat from Iran, with the constant mantras about death to Israel and the extermination of the Jews. Neither should they tolerate it. Who would. It is not just talk and hot air. They have dedicated substantial amounts of Iran's GDP to funding, training, arming and manipulating huge, militia armies against Israel and other neighbouring states. They mean what they say and that is why the theocracy is so hated by most of the Iranian people (those not directly benefiting from the graft and corruption which stems from the control that the IRGC has over the economy. It is interesting that the new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Hosseini Khamenei, has a huge and valuable portfolio of property in London. In all, Bloomberg estimates that he has a property portfolio amounting to €400 million and other assets amounting to around $3Bn. This is who and what you are supporting and sympathetic towards. Edited March 19Mar 19 by Tony1951
March 18Mar 18 I asked Google AI to list the misconduct of the regime, You could also ask AI to compare that with the misconduct of their opposition. If iran caused as many deaths in Tel Aviv as in Tehran, what would you say?
March 18Mar 18 This is the hilarious stupidity of lefty do-gooderism. It's proponents will support the foulest, most violent and most dangerous regimes with contemptible stupidity and fervour, and continually condemn the west as being built on slavery, imperialism, and domineering violence. They support terrorism and justify it, but they love their supposed underdogs of radical Islam, communist mass murderers and the rest. They constantly prate about the evils of the Atlantic slave trade, which was of course wicked by our standards) but was of its time, while they entirely ignore certain facts: The Atlantic Slave trade involved the captivity and transport of at the high end estimate 12 million African people. Monstrous for sure. The majority of those were taken to Brazil by the Portuguese. Meanwhile - in the East, up to 17 million people were taken from Europe and Africa by the Ottoman Slave trade. This is NEVER talked about by the USA and European hating left. Neither is the fact that the European slave traders purchased almost their entire slave population from African slavers. The Europeans of the day knew full well that teh life expectancy of Europeans in sub Saharan Africa was measured in months, because they could not survive the tropical diseases there such as malaria. They bought their captives from African slave traders on the coast. Slavery, unfortunately, was not invented by or exclusively a matter of Europeans abusing other peoples. It has been a mainstay of the human economic system since the beginning of our species. All pre-modern societies practised slavery on a huge scale.We know it still exists - even in Britain today. It is still widespread in the Arab world.
March 18Mar 18 It is obvious that you and other lefty agitators here are rooting for Iran as the 'victim'. To do so, entirely ignores the appalling behaviour of the Mullah led, escatologically* inspired regime. I asked Google AI to list the misconduct of the regime, and will break with my usual practice of not plastering entire AI responses all over the forum, because if I don't, I doubt you will actually read it (probably - as before - dismissing any view you don't like as 'propaganda'. Here it is: As of March 2026, Iran is embroiled in a severe domestic and international crisis characterized by unprecedented levels of state-led repression and an escalation into direct regional conflict. Domestic Policy & Human Rights Violations The Iranian government has significantly intensified its crackdown on dissent, particularly following the re-emergence of nationwide protests in late 2025 and early 2026. [1, 2] Mass Executions: In 2025, Iran carried out a record-breaking number of executions, with estimates ranging from 1,500 to over 2,200—the highest in nearly 40 years. Charges: Over half of these were for drug-related offences, which violates international law regarding "most serious crimes". Political Use: The death penalty is increasingly used as a tool of political repression against protesters and activists, often following trials lasting only minutes. [*]Violent Suppression of Protests: Security forces have reportedly used lethal force, including assault rifles and machine guns, against largely unarmed demonstrators. Casualties: Credible reports suggest thousands of civilians have been killed or injured during the January 2026 crackdown. Specific Atrocities: UN experts have documented a "vicious pattern" of security forces firing metal pellets into the faces and eyes of protesters. [*]Systemic Torture and Sexual Violence: Detainees, including children, have been subjected to rape, gang rape, beatings, electric shocks, and forced confessions. [*]Persecution of Women: Authorities continue to enforce mandatory hijab laws through digital surveillance and physical harassment, characterizing those who resist as "enemies" or having "mental disorders". [*]Information Blackouts: The government frequently imposes near-total internet shutdowns to hide evidence of atrocities and disrupt protest coordination. [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13] International & Regional Crimes Iran's international actions have shifted from proxy-based "asymmetric" warfare to direct military confrontation and transnational repression. [14] Direct Military Escalation: Following a period of heightened tension, Iran engaged in direct hostilities with Israel and the US in 2025 and early 2026. Retaliatory Strikes: Iran has conducted missile and drone attacks across the region that have killed civilians and damaged infrastructure in neighboring countries. [*]Transnational Repression: The regime has expanded its use of criminal networks in Western countries to target dissidents, journalists, and foreign politicians. Assassination Plots: Operatives linked to Iran have been accused of plotting to assassinate foreign leaders, including a 2024 plot targeting Donald Trump. [*]Maritime Interference: Iran and its proxies (such as the Houthis) have been linked to GPS spoofing and electronic interference affecting over 1,100 ships in the Gulf region, creating significant risks to global trade and maritime safety. [*]State-Sponsored Cyberattacks: Iran-linked groups have launched massive cyber campaigns involving "wipers" and DDoS attacks targeting critical infrastructure in the US, Israel, and several Gulf states. [*]Sanctions Evasion & Illicit Financing: The regime continues to use cryptocurrencies and fragmented international financial networks to fund designated terrorist groups and bypass global sanctions. [15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25] [1] https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk [2] https://www.ncr-iran.org [3] https://www.ohchr.org [4] https://www.bbc.com [5] https://www.ncr-iran.org [6] https://www.barrons.com [7] https://www.hrw.org [8] https://deathpenaltyinfo.org [9] https://www.amnesty.org [10] [11] [12] https://www.hrw.org [13] https://iranhumanrights.org [14] https://news.un.org [15] https://icct.nl [16] https://en.wikipedia.org [17] https://www.ohchr.org [18] https://reliefweb.int [19] https://understandingwar.org [20] https://www.iranintl.com [21] https://theconversation.com [22] https://www.csis.org [23] https://industrialcyber.co [24] https://www.dsci.in [25] https://www.acams.org *Iran is an international pariah for very good reason. It is aggressive and hellbent on dominating the region in pursuit of the idea that its lost Supreme Leader will return from the dead to oversee the triumph of Shia religion all over the planet. This is what I meant by the use of the word 'eschatological' above where the first asterisk was used. It is a term used to refer to religious views based on a belief in 'end times' where God's rule (their rule) will dominate the Earth and all enemies will be vanquished. The idea that a fundamentalist group, dedicated to bringing about the end of the world in pursuit of some eternal kingdom or their imagining, can be allowed to develop a ballistic missile programme and nuclear weapons is atrocious and extremely dangerous. Only complete nutters would side with such a regime against the actions of Israel and the United States. Israel for one is NOT GOING TO TOLERATE any further threat from Iran, with the constant mantras about death to Israel and the extermination of the Jews. Neither should they tolerate it. Who would. It is not just talk and hot air. They have dedicated substantial amounts of Iran's GDP to funding, training, arming and manipulating huge, militia armies against Israel and other neighbouring states. They mean what they say and that is why the theocracy - hated by most of the Iranian people (those not directly benefiting from the graft and corruption which stems from the control that the IRGC has over the economy. It is interesting that the new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Hosseini Khamenei, has a huge and valuable portfolio of property in London. In all, Bloomberg estimates that he has a property portfolio amounting to €400 million and other assets amounting to around $3Bn. This is who and what you are supporting. That's a lot of bluster, assumption.have you been infected by trump, hegseth? was merely stating facts. Via control of hormuz, the oil price/inflation iran has taken control of the terms, agenda of this war. Trump's skewered, if he use ground troops to try to secure it, it becomes mission creep, a bigger disaster. Maga voters are learning the hard way that reality does not have a high tolerance for the obtuse problem with assumption, prejudice - trump's that the US is invincible, or for that matter, yours that your ancestors were superior, entitled you to a privileged life - is that it's prevents, gets in the way of actually thinking, perceiving, engaging with reality as it really is. As trump supporters are discovering, or reform voters will, much like brexit supporters have, in due course. Edited March 18Mar 18 by jonathan.agnew
March 18Mar 18 You could also ask AI to compare that with the misconduct of their opposition. If iran caused as many deaths in Tel Aviv as in Tehran, what would you say? Are you familiar with the term 'Whataboutery' https://chatgpt.com/s/t_69ba7d36ae2c8191aecdf49dd063fe44 The Iranian regime has caused at a conservative estimate, 1.2 million deaths since 1979 by virtue of the wars propagated by its funding and its terrorist militias - Hebollah, HAMAS, the Houthies, they have also had, or have had militias in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, and Pakistan. The regime is hated across the Arab world for its violent meddling in foreign states. One only need look at the attacks of the last fortnight on neighbours who actually opposed the American Israeli mission and were actively attempting to defuse tensions between the regime and its opponents. Countries without American bases and who were entirely non-aggressive have been pounded by drones and missiles released by the lunatics in Tehran. List of Islamic Republic militias on foreign territory: https://share.google/aimode/eISFM9KVsG2k09SXJ Then we have the fact that the regime is loathed and detested by a majority of Iranian people who are totally subjugated by bizarre out of touch Mullahs. They have a massive apparatus of repression, rewarded for, and dedicated to dishing out extreme violence on any who openly dissent from their policy. Estimates of murdered protesters in the recent unrest which precipitated this US/Israeli war against Iran, range from 30,000 to perhaps 35,000. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead Thousands are in jail, a great many accused of capital crimes. https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/20/tehran-accused-of-mass-arrests-torture-and-executions-after-protests Shame on those who support these medieval barbarians.
March 18Mar 18 That's a lot of bluster, assumption.have you been infected by trump, hegseth? was merely stating facts. Via control of hormuz, the oil price/inflation iran has taken control of the terms, agenda of this war. Trump's skewered, if he use ground troops to try to secure it, it becomes mission creep, a bigger disaster. Maga voters are learning the hard way that reality does not have a high tolerance for the obtuse This needs decoding - It is incoherent and doesn't make any sense, but this is my response: The remarks above are not bluster at all. They express my disgust for supporters and apologists of the Islamic Republic which oppresses its own people and others, and the remarks are factual and mainly supported by references. Furthermore - you already know my attitude to Trump and the apparatchik, Hegseth. Like the other liars that Trump employs, he is no better than Goebbels the Nazi propaganda minister.
March 18Mar 18 The Iranian regime has caused at a conservative estimate, 1.2 million deaths since 1979 Let's analyse who is doing the killing shall we?
March 18Mar 18 For those who don't restrict their curiosity to matters covered in left wing rags, these kinds of cases are appearing in accounts of court reports several times a month. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/news/asylum-seekers-targeted-lone-drunk-172030365.html
March 18Mar 18 Serious Violent/Sexual Offences Rape and sexual assault cases linked to asylum hotels or irregular migrants: An illegal immigrant in Oxford convicted of raping a 20-year-old woman in a churchyard. Sudanese man convicted of strangling and related offences (mentioned in parliamentary debate on asylum hotel incidents). Ethiopian asylum seeker charged with sexual assault on a teenage girl and another woman (Epping hotel case, trial ongoing as of 2025 reports). Two Afghan migrants denied involvement in the rape of a 12-year-old girl (separate central England case). [*]Sex attacks by illegal immigrant: A man carried out a ten-day campaign of sex attacks in south London and was jailed for eight years (2016 case). [*]Illegal immigrant sex offender: Naseer Chawki (jailed for "revolting" sex crimes on a train) later involved in compensation claims related to detention. Other Notable Individual Cases Islamic State propaganda: An illegal migrant (IS supporter) jailed for sharing terror group propaganda videos on WhatsApp (2025 case). Fraud and long-term stay: Joyce Baidoo (illegal migrant, previously convicted of fraud and imprisoned) ruled unable to be deported due to length of residence in the UK (2025 immigration tribunal). So you wouldn't mind to dish out group punishment when some of the culprits are not punished through lack of evidence? Do you think that justifies bombing of the countries they came from?
March 18Mar 18 So you wouldn't mind to dish out group punishment when some of the culprits are not punished through lack of evidence? Do you think that justifies bombing of the countries they came from? Insane remark.
March 18Mar 18 Let's analyse who is doing the killing shall we? After the tens of thousands of civilians killed by the idf in gaza, Lebanon it is very difficult to consider Israel a moral force in the region
March 18Mar 18 After the tens of thousands of civilians killed by the idf in gaza, Lebanon it is very difficult to consider Israel a moral force in the region Oh yes - just lie down and have one of the biggest terrorist attacks in history enacted against you and do nothing about it. Funny how some get outraged at some civilian deaths and others - not so much. When you have proxies of Iran all around you intent on murder, stern responses are needed. Iran and its cancerous tendrils have always been an existential threat to Israel. Since the Gazans have always supported the killers, it is hard to say where responsibility for Jewish mass murder stops. I am not in the least surprised that Israel went hard after the cancer of HAMAS - just another proxy of Iran. Armed by the Mullahs, funded by the Mullahs, trained by the Mullahs, provided with rockets by the Mullahs, and encouraged by the Mullahs. Did Israel go far at times - yes. Is there an obvious way to prevent that ever happening again? Yes. Just stop with the 'Death to Israel' thing and don't murder Jews. Lebanon is also a victim of Iran. The Hezbollah has taken over the country and is stronger, more violent and more capable than the Lebanese army. It is a model of why it is a very bad idea to let your country be taken over by Palestinians and extremist Islam. They are a curse wherever they are. Why do you think that Egypt is so very much against letting the Palestinians out of Gaza into Egypt? It could easily take all 4 million Palestinians out of there, if it wanted? Why doesn't Jordan help out do you think? You know Egypt borders Gaza I expect, but if you don't, you do now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_7_attacks Edited March 18Mar 18 by Tony1951
March 18Mar 18 So you wouldn't mind to dish out group punishment when some of the culprits are not punished through lack of evidence? Do you think that justifies bombing of the countries they came from? How could anyone but a madman think I have linked the high rate of sexual crime among migrants to dishing out group punishment? Perhaps you could indicate where you think group punishment is being dished out right now and where I have ever supported such a thing. I'll tell you where I last think group punishment was dished out - I think the 7th October incursion and mass rape, and murder of civilians, is a prime example. They were killed, raped and kidnapped for no other reason than that they were Jews. Who did that? Palestinians linked to HAMAS - the Iranian proxy militia in Gaza. If you are trying to suggest that the Israeli and American war in Iran, is group punishment of civilians, such a remark is ridiculous. The bombings have been pin point accurate and though some civilians have been killed, they are generally those linked to the top echelon of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard and its associates and the leadership. Iran says 171 children were killed in a strike on an IRGC base, which wrecked a school as well as the IRGC facillity, and this may be true, but such an unfortunate outcome is an unfortunate accident and not a deliberate targeted act against the civilians killed. The strike was on the IRGC base and not the school. Civilian deaths in Iran are a small proportion of the total and an absolutely TINY number compared with the deliberate regime led murder of 30,000 to 35,000 deaths of protesters meted out by the regime itself last month and the month before that. I didn't notice any moral outrage from you about that! Nor do I remember you being upset about the murder, rape, and kidnap of about 2000 Jews by HAMAS. Maybe I missed it. As usual - blame anyone but those truly responsible. Edited March 18Mar 18 by Tony1951
March 18Mar 18 300k 4 story hut and pool in front room carbon sinks we live in the wrong $hit hole! Edited March 18Mar 18 by soundwave
March 19Mar 19 Nor do I remember you being upset about the murder, rape, and kidnap of about 2000 Jews by HAMAS. I never condone any killing or maiming of civilians. I detect your desire you draw me into taking a side. I of course may take side from time to time but typically do not shout out about it in forum posts out of respect for forum rules. Wars are atrocious enough like they are, don't make them worse by your one-sided stance.
March 19Mar 19 Author I'll tell you where I last think group punishment was dished out - I think the 7th October incursion and mass rape, and murder of civilians, is a prime example. They were killed, raped and kidnapped for no other reason than that they were Jews. Who did that? Palestinians linked to HAMAS - the Iranian proxy militia in Gaza. No, the last occasion of group punishment was Netanyahu's response, saying "this is war "and then deliberately, intentionally, randomly killing uninvolved Gazan civilians in excess of a 10 to 1 ratio, in furtherance of his long term genocidal policy of wiping Palestine and Palestinians out of history. .
March 19Mar 19 No, the last occasion of group punishment was Netanyahu's response, saying "this is war "and then deliberately, intentionally, randomly killing uninvolved Gazan civilians in excess of a 10 to 1 ratio, in furtherance of his long term genocidal policy of wiping Palestine and Palestinians out of history. . I am no fan of Netanyahu and have said so here before ,I am sure. However, anyone who thinks that Iran ought to be left alone to develop nuclear weapons and attack Israel, is a lunatic with suicidal tendencies or someone at the end of their life with no relatives to worry about. Iran has WELL DESERVED regime change for the murder of its own citizens alone. When considering its determination to ruin all around it with violent militias which make a misery of life for those living anywhere it can reach, the case is even stronger - much stronger. How do you fancy an IRGC and Supreme Leader with nuclear weapons and long range missiles? Only someone with no stake in teh future or a delusional pyschological condition would shrug at such a prospect. Netnayahu is a nasty piece of work, and I have long though so, but Iran would NEVER have been troubled by Israel had it not spent the last 46 years attempting to destroy Israel and its citizens. What do you really expect of Israel, a country which for all of its faults (I mean those right wing settler lunatics and their enablers) is made up significantly of the survivors and descendants of perhaps the greatest genocide in history? To a very large extent, Israel voted for Netanyahu BECAUSE of Iran and its proxies. People are afraid there. They are afraid because of what Iran will do and has been doing using Hezbollah and HAMAS to attack Israel from just over the border. As for the Jews - you need to understand something important about Jews and pacifism. Where did peacefully complying with the orders to get on the trains and walk into the 'shower rooms' at Treblinka, Dachau, Belsen and Majdenek get them? No - the Jews walked like sheep to extermination in the past. Not anymore. Mess with the Jews these days and you will get a rocket through your window and who cares in Israel if your grandmother was visiting when it arrived. You won't find many pacifists in Israel. They know where it leads. If the Mullahs didn't want trouble with Israel, why did they devote a significant part of their GDP to creating, funding, training and equipping HAMAS? Why did they persist in the plan to build long range missiles and nuclear weapons, all teh while chanting 'Death to Israel'? These chants were not just rhetoric - they meant it, and showed that on Feb7th 2023. Only tiresome lefty fools , and Islamists would object to this logic. If you don't want BIG TROUBLE - don't attack Israel. Simple. Israel does not attack Oman, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia or any other state that is not attempting to destroy it. When attacked, you MUST defend yourself or you will be annihilated.
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