Conhismotor electric bike

indalo

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I just don't see the point about having an electric bike limited to 25km/h. I'm perfectly healthy and I'm fine with peddling at 20-25km/h. What I need is a vehicle fast enough and practical to carry.

To my knowledge, in the UK there is no e-bike light or fast enough. At least if I buy from this dealer the bike runs faster, can roll once folded and has 2 years warranty on the bike AND the battery. No dealer in the UK can provide that. (if so, just let me know)


I just cross my finger and hope the seller is not exagerating what he told me: Up to 40km/h (but I would largely accomodate 35km/h) and ability to roll once folded. (will make videos review)
It sounds to me that you really don't need an ebike at all if you can pedal at the speed you claim but I'm sure you know what you're doing.

If you don't see or can't see the point of ebikes being limited to 25kph, you obviously haven't researched the matter fully as there's plenty of material explaining exactly that on these pages.

Presumably, you have considered the potential resale value of your bike should you wish to divest yourself of it if it fails to live up to your expectations? Certainly, those British-sourced ebikes you have chosen to ignore would have a resale value as there's a lot of respect for most of the usual suspects, mentioned frequently in this forum.

All in all, I'm not sure why you want an ebike but if it's so you're able to achieve 40kph, then that's achievable, (for some) on a regular bike or, (for anybody) on pretty well any small moped.

Can you explain what it is you seek to achieve in a budget-priced ebike?

Indalo
 

cwah

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Sorry for the animosity. That's really not what I want to achieve. I've seen some bad and good reviews from users to Conhismotor. Globally positive though.. and few negative. And 97% satisfaction on 250 users is still good. Just hope I'm not wrong.

Also, to clarify, while this is true I'm looking for a budget priced bike (although I'm now spending around £800 with the shipping charge + additional upgrades for this bike), my goal is really simple:
- Being able to go from A to B in a fatest way possible. I'm not looking for exercises. If I don't peddle at all that would be fine.
- I don't mind using a moped, a scooter or car. However, these vehicles are difficults to park and there is no parking under my flat or close to my company. And I'll get crazy trying to find place to park if I move around London.

In my case, the best solution is still the bike because I don't have to worry anymore about parking problems. I may also carry while I'm travelling.

In the mind of most people, and in my mind, e-bike should be faster than normal bike. I just can't conceive why I'd purchase it if it's not faster.

So for UK dealers, they can just consider I do not belong to their target audience. But I still think it would help me when I'm traveling. And that's why I'm looking for it abroad.


Ps: I think people in my case are quite common in big city. And that's why there is so many Brompton/folding (on fitted people able to reach 25km/h) in London. More and more people take the tube because using the car is not practical anymore. But now the tube is crowded (I personally try to avoid the tube as much as possible) and we still need practical way to travel...
 
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indalo

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I'm not looking for exercises. If I don't peddle at all that would be fine.
- I don't mind using a moped, a scooter or car. However, these vehicles are difficults to park and there is no parking under my flat or close to my company. And I'll get crazy trying to find place to park if I move around London.

In my case, the best solution is still the bike because I don't have to worry anymore about parking problems. I may also carry while I'm travelling.

In the mind of most people, and in my mind, e-bike should be faster than normal bike. I just can't conceive why I'd purchase it if it's not faster.

So for UK dealers, they can just consider I do not belong to their target audience. But I still think it would help me when I'm traveling. And that's why I'm looking for it abroad.

Ok, thanks for that Cwah. I'm now clear on your requirements and I wish you the best of luck with your bike when it arrives.

Indalo
 

lemmy

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In the mind of most people, and in my mind, e-bike should be faster than normal bike. I just can't conceive why I'd purchase it if it's not faster.
E-bikes are perfectly legal at faster powered speeds but you need tax, insurance and a helmet.

If you drive a faster one anyway, you are simply adding to the legion of uninsured and untaxed road users already out there. There doesn't seem to be any general disapproval of this even from the law, so I guess I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

Mind you, I'm not you and I would worry about it ;)
 

TwoBikes

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E-bikes are perfectly legal at faster powered speeds but you need tax, insurance and a helmet.
You also need Type Approval or Single Vehicle Approval for the cycle itself.
 

bode

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In the mind of most people, and in my mind, e-bike should be faster than normal bike. I just can't conceive why I'd purchase it if it's not faster.
I think that most people who buy e-bikes do so to help them up hills to varying degrees and for various reasons.
 

cwah

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I think that most people who buy e-bikes do so to help them up hills to varying degrees and for various reasons.
I would rather say that actual e-bike business model is designed for people that help them up hills. And that's why this is the primary customers.

If e-bike were ligther and faster, I'm sure another type of customer would use the bike. (The one that use folding bike/brompton)

ps: for the speed, normal bike can very often go faster than 30km/h. So I don't see why electric bike should be restricted (and not for the normal one)
 

mike killay

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I would rather say that actual e-bike business model is designed for people that help them up hills. And that's why this is the primary customers.


ps: for the speed, normal bike can very often go faster than 30km/h. So I don't see why electric bike should be restricted (and not for the normal one)
The question is, how far can you pedal at 30kph? Do you arrive cool and fresh in a business suit, or boiling hot in lycra?
A 10 mile journey at 25kph takes 40 minutes. Using electric, you arrive fresh as a daisy, ready for work.
A 10 mile journey at 30 kph takes 33 minutes. You arrive worn out, needing a shower and to change your clothes.
 

cwah

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Mike, this is exactly why I need a fast ebike: Arrive quickly to my destination without sweating :)
 

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I've seen some bad and good reviews from users to Conhismotor. Globally positive though.. and few negative. And 97% satisfaction on 250 users is still good. Just hope I'm not wrong.
My 750W kit is from Conhismotor. Fairly standard Chinese kit, it all works, and has been reliable so far. Minor things, like the quality of connectors, are a gripe, but easily upgraded. The quality of switches and levers isn't great, but nothing's broken yet :)
When I get around to building a cargo bike I'd probably buy another motor from them.
 

indalo

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I think this is exactly why you need a moped or scooter.
Bode, I'm in complete agreement with you but the OP claims he wants to be able to fold his bike and roll it. Now, I've never tried to roll a 24Kg bike but I guess if the seller says it can be done, then fine. Just rather him than me!

The parking must be particularly horrendous in his neck of the woods if parking a moped is a problem.

Indalo
 

cwah

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Guys, try to be more open minded.

This bike should allow me to carry it in the train and bus. Real multi-modal travelling!
 

wurly

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Hi
I can see your point and the reasons for choosing it. According to the ebay ad top speed is 32kmh 19.8mph? i would have thought that this would be no load speed. I don't think it is going to necessarly quick but it will assist you to keep up a higher average speed overall. Where you feel the motor really helping you is when you get to an incline (eg speed drops) that is when you will know the motor is helping you. I am guessing that it is a geared freewheeling hub.
It is difficult to say because i don't know the type of journey you undertake, is it hilly? or flat?
One of my motors will reach 22mph no load, that gives me a assisted speed of around 17-18mph. Another is 15.5mph. yet the slower speed motor gives me an easier ride (although slower) because i am not trying to keep the motor at the higher speed (does that make sense?) with electric bikes the motor assists you and you assist the motor, it works both ways. Speed isn't always the objective, having a more relaxed easier ride is. I hope the bike works out ok for you, it might be a good choice.
 

cwah

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I'm living in London, so my journeys are mainly flat. Also, according to the seller he was able to make the bike goes to 40km/h. Hope it's true..

But seriously, I would be so much more relieved when...
1. I won't have any more fear about the BIG BUS BEHIND behind me. This is still my worst feeling when I cycle.
2. I would have a better speed on long road with so many cars around me
3. I'd be able to follow up the speed on intersections. Rather than waiting that every cars pass first to make sure they won't crush me.

Just hope it's going to be easy to carry and that I'd be able to bring it on the bus and train. Finger crossed!
 
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I don't want to spoil your dream, but I'm afraid the only way that bike's going to do 40 kph is if you throw it off a cliff. It's only 24v, so I doubt if it'll have enough power. The enclosure under the battery only has room for a small controller, so It won't be delivering a lot of amps either. I would guess 13amps max. That makes just over 300w in my estimation. I think that you'll find about 15mph max on the flat will be a bit more realistic and less if you have a headwind. I hope I'm wrong, but my bike can pull 1500w from the battery and it'll hardly do 40kph on the flat.
 

cwah

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The seller keeps saying it can reach 40km/h even when I ask for confirmation. It's Conhismotor they are specialised in motor and their reputation is not that bad..

Hope I don't get con... :/
 

Trevor Holloway

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The seller keeps saying it can reach 40km/h even when I ask for confirmation.

He would say that - I doubt there is there a no quibble full money back guarantee on that claim.