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Try contacting Raleigh in Nottingham directly.

The bike weighs 22.3kg as far as I can find out. The motor and battery weighs 6.4kg. If it were a non electric bike it would weigh 15.9kg. My Marin Muirwoods commuter weighed 19kg. The Hardseven could be lighter but would cost much more because of the components required. One can dream :)

I have absolutely no idea what the history of your business is or was. You assume in error. I also do not know a lot about the present status of your business or your products. Just what you keep suggesting to prospective customers on multiple threads in this forum. I do not have any reason...

NIce to know. :)

Your objection is noted but I did not call you any such thing. Again, your words. I would give and have given this type of advice to anyone that I percieved did not know a lot about a torque system or a cadence system. And you were correct in asking me earlier if I assumed you had no or little...

Again you twist my words. Nowhere did I use the word argue. I only mentioned discussion. I had no idea we were in an argument. If you were arguing, those are your words not mine. No need for me to check anything at all. :confused: :(

First W, I asked a question, I did not make a statement. Nowhere did I slang a hub drive or any other drive system. And in a discussion to try and reply the OP's "Bosch" system observations someone started talking about hub drives. Fair enough but nothing to do with the original topic. From...

Is this a discussion about getting the best results from a bosch torque system or an opportunity for a dealer to flog their bikes? o_O

Like I and others repeat ad nausea, a test ride is the best way way to learn and determine what is best for an individual. You really should expand your paradigms by spending some time on a torque system. As you don't sell bosch or other torque systems my reply would be meaningless. Volumes have...

I never said a bosch would be the best for him. In fact what I said was that I would never recommend a torque bike for someone with physical limitations. And yes, with the bosch system set on high you can pedal up a steep hill with little effort. Give it a try sometime and find out for yourself...

I believe you have hit the nail on the head sir. These bikes are somewhat complicated. The problem new riders have with them is simply not understanding what they have. This can be for many reasons including their previous bikes and riding style and/or not being educated by the dealer about how...

Couldn't agree with you more about the Wisper Torque. It is the everything bike.

I will not recommend a torque bike to anyone that has any kind of physical impediment. I love my torque bike and would not trade it for a hub/cadence system. The pro hub drive posters here are fair in their comments as to riders whom are aged or otherwise physicaly impaired. What I do not see...

I certainly can go up a steep hill without pedalling at 90rpm. In the right gear and power setting it is almost effortless. I am over 60. Have you ever ridden a Bosch or Yamaha system up a hill? All I and others are saying is that we find the higher rpm easier on us and the bike. Pedaling faster...

On my Yamaha system, going up a hill, there are times I upshift to increase resistance thus tricking the system to cut in. This helps me pick up speed and get back up to the cadence I perfer. Otherwise, I would still be plodding along at a slower speed. Having said that I do agree with what you...

You are basically correct. If you are in first gear on the low power setting on a torque bike, you will not be able to hit 15mph on a flat or hill. Your formula proves that. But tucking into a hill at full power creates the chain tension that causes the system to respond as and when the incline...

Right you are. And I am guilty of not taking my own advice when on the flats I turn up the power and use a higher gear so the bike does most of the work. I can also do this on hills but like the op said, I will not be able to hit 15mph unless I downshift and pedal faster. It is not as tiring as...

It is all about the cadence and I give this advice to all my customers. I use to be in triathelon club and learned about the value of higher cadence on a regular road bike. Maintaining the same speed, cycling at an 80 to 90 rpm cadence in the right gear results in a lower heart rate than cycling...

You are doing it right by test riding before you buy. However, your expectations of a dealer having all models they can provide is unrealistic and unreasonable. Look at all the the different models in the just the Haibike line alone. The dealer that carries them could get you what you want but...

Just asking for possible future preventative action: Did you store your batteries inside during the winter? Storing a battery flat in freezing temperatures is not good for them. It is also a good idea to put them on charge every two months if stored. Cheers