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More like +600 or 700 grams. Over on endless sphere the NuVinci shifting under load seems to have some difficulty. I don't lend much attention because they are putting much more power through it in those cases and often on very heavy bikes. My thought is to calculate gearing so that the Inter 8...

Excuse me while I run out and buy a lotto ticket! I wouldn't mind going back to a car for those longer distances but it would have to be this one now that I have seen it. Now about that 150 mile / 240 km range, was that calculated by Bosch?:rolleyes:

I don't... I also don't have a facecr@p account. See where this is going? o_O

Depends who programs the software. I don't mind a pair of hydraulic brake lines. That is what is good about the Gtech, no handlebar clutter. Oh and it has a belt drive too... :rolleyes: A smartphone as LCD with no cables and all the electrics in the controller box in the battery case. GPS...

On the other end of the price scale... http://www.gensace.de/voltage-cell-count/lipo-7-4v-2s/gens-ace-6500mah-7-4v-50c-2s1p-hardcase-lipo-battery-10.html

Less than 46 € a piece? EDIT OK I see on Amazon at $40 Blow up as in swell?

46 T front from counting teeth between two mounting bolts and times five :D 16 on the back looks about right.

Does it have a full power throttle? :rolleyes:

OK thanks d8veh that is what I was thinking about 50 V. I was already thinking of taking the cap off and putting another on on lying it down instead of having it standing vertically as it is now in order to make the casing lower profile. It is just that main cap that needs changing to 63 V...

Great minds trex, great minds...

That is the price of a 10.4 Amp Samsung celled bottle battery. And these guys don't know what they are doing? Course they know what they are doing - making money is what! As we are going radical how about a nice road frame, SRAM automatix, belt drive and a GSM? 14-15 kg? Powered by a 4 Ah...

Maybe in the UK. I know th HobbyKing sales are stock with long shelf life but even if I only get 100 charges (charging to 4.15 V and discharging to 3.6 V) out of them it still only comes to 1.67€ per 100 km. The cheapest alternative is a second bottle battery at 360€. Convenient I hear you but I...

Maybe it is an interesting thread for a lot of us? All the right ingredients.

Maybe all this is just a market study? If it doesn't look to them like they have a chance to break in then they sell of at "special offer" and still make enough to not be out of pocket...

17 Amps is 2C for an 8.5 Ah battery... And the OP has specified he won't be blasting around WOT or towing water skiers...

Are you reading my lips Eddie... A free Rohloff!!! arrrghhhhh!!!:confused:

Ah with those the Raptor is now at £819, getting closer to £900...

You mean a 14 day free trial but remember you have to send back with "reasonable use" which means... no mud Eddie :eek:

A Karoo with Magura rim brakes (-450 grams), a GSM mid drive, Nexus 8 Inter (+1.7 kg) and no throttle or brake cut-offs (-350 grams) painted matt white with fire orange accents that could possible get my heart rate up a little. Chuck on the Gates carbon belt or competitor, a decent Selle Italia...

Disclaimer: I have taught marketing at a Chamber of Commerce Business School. The initial price is the early adopter price, they were testing the water they didn't have to halve the price it is obviously worth much less than that. "How many can we move for £xxxx?" kind of stuff. Look at Apples...