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  1. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    Electro-mechanically yes, they are sold with the appropriate rating to match the law in the area of sale. .
  2. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    And the first test option in EN15194 is almost always impractical anyway. The motor shaft isn't readily accessible for a power output check with internally geared hub motors and most crank drive units. .
  3. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    Yes, but to appear legal they are not rated as 350 watt for the EU and UK market. I think member Nemesis was probably asking about one rated as 350 watts. .
  4. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    This is what I meant when mentioning the alternative test in Appendix D, basically an acceleration measure. As you say, the weight alone makes that easier, but there's another often used dodge which helps to pass that test. That dodge is incorporated into the following model. One of my legal...
  5. flecc

    New Top Gear was Pants

    He shouldn't laugh to soon, it remains to be seen how successful his new show will be. It could end up as Bottom Gear, or even Reverse Gear. .
  6. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    That's not the case in a testable way, these motors don't have anything like as great an inefficiency factor. In the case of the Bosch CX, it would have to have only 42% efficiency! It's probably nearer twice that. There's a circa €70 charge to buy the EN15194 PDF, but I can make a copy...
  7. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    That doesn't appear to be a problem. The Wisper brand models at least have been put through an approved testing lab EN15194 certification. Those models have used both Dapu and Suzhou Bafang motors at controller amperages producing power wattages which we know are far in excess of the legal 250...
  8. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    The law does say "continuous maximum power". Regulatory approval is by meeting the requirements of EN15194, but not all member states are signed up to that yet, last I heard only the UK and France had. It appears that at present a manufacturer declaring a 250 watt rating is sufficient. I...
  9. flecc

    EU Referendum Vote

    Certainly could be true, but strangely a narrow vote to leave could have an unexpected consequence. Since the negotiations to leave would be protracted, quite easily extending beyond 10 years, the negotiations would bridge two or three parliaments. The compromises we'd have to make towards...
  10. flecc

    New Top Gear was Pants

    I can't rate your post! I agree with the first half but disagree with the second. My disagreement is partly because I think the old Top Gear was almost spent anyway, the show and its type of antics having become too predictable through constant repetition. Anyway the BBC won't be making...
  11. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Welcome to the Pedelecs forum Martin. I doubt you need to worry about any changes for many years. Switzerland isn't even a member, but just to get an incomplete trade agreement with the EU took them 7 years. If we vote to leave, we in the UK will need to get a more complex trade agreement and...
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We can cope, 87% of our population were born here in the UK. Of the remaining 13%, the majority are gainfully employed and often in essential services for all of us, including the areas you mention. .
  13. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    Indeed none are, the lowest power pedelec motor I've ever known of topped at over 300 watts. In general the moderate mainstream motors are around 400 watts. Most of the "pedelec gestapo" became reconciled to this quite a long time ago, though we occasionally get a new member foaming at the...
  14. flecc

    Bit confused about the Bosch Drive Unit Performance CX

    They are exaggerating with the word "additional". Their meaning of additional could be additional to the rider effort. :rolleyes: As David at AMPS says, the 600 watts is about all that's developed. That will happen anyway without programming. An electric motor's torque is maximum at zero...
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    New Top Gear was Pants

    It seems all the criticism of the new Top Gear has caused the BBC a loss of confidence in the show. To go with the next show on Sunday 5th, they'd originally made an extra program, Top Gear Extra Gear, explaining the stunts. But according to Radio Times, they've suddenly withdrawn it without...
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No they aren't, and I wasn't comparing the skills, I was comparing the boat suitability. The huge numbers of small yachts and other small boats which cross the channel and often go much further like the Channel Islands are mostly owned by amateurs with very variable appropriate knowledge. When...
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not in this latest case, what they were doing was not in the slightest bit dangerous and they certainly wouldn't have been anticipating a problem. I'd think nothing of crossing the channel in that twin Mercury inflatable, far safer than a slow moving yacht, and small yachts are crossing the...
  18. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    While there is plenty of truth in what you say Tillson, the trouble that I and I'm sure others have is that you are in effect saying that much of our aid to those in distress is wrong. Many road accident victims, including cyclists, have brought their misfortune on themselves. Should we leave...
  19. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Some certainly, but the majority on both sides of the house are clearly remainers. Even with a free vote, the House of Commons woud never vote to leave the EU. .
  20. flecc

    Brompton Kers (kinetic energy recovery system)

    It can never be practical, the effort needed on the flat to generate even a trifling amount is very high. I've watched a number of attempts using stationary bikes or pedalling devices to generate current for low demand systems like lighting and the cyclist(s) involved get exhausted in minutes...