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  1. flecc

    G-tech bike,has anyone seen a proper test

    Yes, the first Ezee bike to reach the UK market was the Quando in 2004, also showing up everything else at that time with the way it flattened hills. Rather oddly the early Rider SLA model was a much later 2007 introduction here, as a low cost alternative to the Sprint, which was their second...
  2. flecc

    BMW i3

    Thanks for the report on your i3 experience. I recently tried the latest Nissan Leaf and came away with remarkably similar impressions. The Leaf isn't as fast as the BMW but still has hot-hatch like rapid acceleration from a standstill. It's rather smoother and quieter than the BMW thanks to...
  3. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    It seems to align with the proposal from the European Parliament some three years ago to remove pedelec power limits, on the basis that the speed limit was enough. The EU Commission threw that out. In this case the weight limit would limit the power by what is technically possible. Perhaps...
  4. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    I'm surprised you say the first time seen. This has long existed on many legal e-bikes. For example, I've owned two legal Ezee models which were also supplied on the continent in pedelc only form. Both in pedelec mode had full throttles which only operated when the pedals were rotated...
  5. flecc

    G-tech bike,has anyone seen a proper test

    They are capable enough in performance terms. The 2001 Aprilia worked fine in prototype form but wasn't released, suspected due to the fuel cell life at that time. A 2006 Austrian privately designed and built hydrogen fuel cell only recumbent trike was very successful. It climbed their hills...
  6. flecc

    Leaving the EU

    Yes, use the reverse. I wouldn't want to get printing ink on my backside. .
  7. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    Legal pedelecs are not unregistered motor vehicles, there is nothing in law defining them as that. 168/2013 does not exempt them from being motor vehicles, it only exempts them from type approval law. It's only when a vehicle becomes the subject of type approval that it's defined as an...
  8. flecc

    G-tech bike,has anyone seen a proper test

    The WEVCO (Wisper Electric Vehicle Co) model 905 has been around that long. They then had some upgrades and 9 years ago in 2007 the first 905se made its appearance. .
  9. flecc

    G-tech bike,has anyone seen a proper test

    Yes, looks good. That's the third completed and working hydrogen fuel cell bike I've seen so far, the first one way back in 2001 from Aprilia. .
  10. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    Since 168/2013 only says this: where the output of the motor is cut off when the cyclist stops pedalling what pedalling constitutes is a matter for judgement in a senior court. For example, what defined riding as opposed to walking alongside had to be defined in a test case. (Crank v Brooks...
  11. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    As I said, if the seller tells the customer that the throttle pedelec is legal without registration, offences* are committed by the seller. But if the seller just lets the customer assume it's ok, no offence is committed by the seller. Remember, all those others you mention are automatically...
  12. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    Just rotating without any further effort is ok. The 168/2013 has no definition of pedalling, nor does the EAPC regulation. Both only mention power must cease when pedalling stops. So since rotation only sensors are accepted as legal and there's no requirement for torque sensing, rotation is...
  13. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    We in the UK get away with a little more at 4 mph, your EU 6 kph being 3.6 mph. .
  14. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    Agreed, underlining what I posted just above on this link .
  15. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    You would be David, to me the law and what the DfT are saying is quite clear. A pedelec with throttle has to have type approval since it is excluded from exemption (h) of 168/2013. Type approval is under that 168/2013 which, in page 1, clause 5 of the explanations for the legislation has this...
  16. flecc

    G-tech bike,has anyone seen a proper test

    Maybe they'll have an Ezee hydrogen fuel cell pack that still plugs straight into the same rear of seat tube position. :D .
  17. flecc

    G-tech bike,has anyone seen a proper test

    But it's not an absolute, since they have choices of alternative battery size and weight position too and, like Kudos, even two newest models with different position (downtube) main batteries. .
  18. flecc

    News: ‘Twist and go’ type approval guidance emerges

    Yes, and if we set up a trade agreement with the EU, much of that law will have to remain in force as a condition of trade. That we know from the examples of Norway and Switzerland. So the only way to get rid of those EU laws would be to leave the EU and only trade with them as an outsider...
  19. flecc

    G-tech bike,has anyone seen a proper test

    Even the costs in repair time are often not recoverable within a price acceptable to a customer, let alone the necessary profit to provide a living. The frequent inability to get single spares at a low enough price is an added difficulty. .
  20. flecc

    What is the advantage of 36volt over 26volt?

    Always got loads of attention. I considered converting the little shopper trailer into a large one as I'd done with the front one, but never got round to it. Pity, it would have been a show stopper. :) .