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While the second part of this is largely true and was certainly true of the old early unit, the Panasonic second series units are more efficient than the Bosch, something Panasonic are proud of. The reason is that it uses a single stage internal gear reduction driving the chain via a small...

EU countries have had the 6 kph (3.6 mph) throttle for years and they are effectively legal. It was first introduced about 2002 by BikeTec on their expensive Panasonic motored Flyers which sold well in Europe but not in the price sensitive UK. BikeTec were the first to modify the Panasonic...

I had the same for an entire year, only finding out when I went to renew tax online. Since then I check all VED, insurance and MOT renewals are shown online shortly after carrying them out. .

It will be legal since, as the DfT have acknowledged, there will be "grandfather rights" for existing e-bikes. Laws are almost never retrospective, and this is usually true of transport laws. Also EU regulations, which this was, are never retrospective. The position is quite the opposite in...

As you know the DfT have said in 2013 that existing e-bikes with throttles will have grandfather rights to continue in use, but that won't extend to any e-bike bought after the effective date of the new regulations. Any e-bike with a throttle bought after that will have to be type approved and...

The problem is that there is relevance Neptune. We chose to join the EU and that has always had harmonisation objectives* from the beginning, the earliest of which being transport. This change is completion of harmonisation for electric assist bicycles, our previous step in this direction...

Thanks James, I'll try that route. My main concern now is the new rules for L1e-A which I now think from what I've found out so far may not apply until 1st January 2016. That of course is the old Low Powered Moped class, also known now as the Powered Pedal Cycle class. Unlike the e-speed...

In fact the first year will possibly produce higher sales, since there is by convention a period for dealers to sell existing stock. Past practice means that will be at least six months, also establishing grandfather rights for existing throttle e-bikes. A possible rush for those could be the...

I agree, but demonstrably many existing legal pedelecs scarcely comply with the power reduction. The old Panasonic units clearly did, but the latest ones seem to drive at the same power to almost cutoff. .

I presume so since it would be like the power level switching on existing legal pedelecs such as the Bosch and similar units. .

Throttles that only operate up to 4 mph (UK) or 6 kph (EU) are allowed since that falls within other no-bureaucracy legislation as well. The problem with current implementations of them is that they have little power due to them being a cheap implementation, not due to any law restricting them...

Yes, that's going to be interesting, but I'm sure any drop will be temporary while people get used to the new. However, these new measures might well result in L1e-A e-bikes arriving on the market, so a fairer comparison then perhaps a further year later will be the combined sales of the two...

Perhaps true for many newer entrants, though they had permission for throttles before November 2003 and had some e-bikes with then then. And I never saw or heard of any requests for throttles from them back then. Also they have the disabled so why are they not raising the issue, they surely...

I don't quite understand what you are saying James. If you get your driving licence back, how could you be riding without a licence? If your licence qualified you as it might, you'd be legal, if it didn't qualify you for that type of e-bike you could still just take the test for that class for...

Well, it seems from what you say that not registering is a personal choice James. If that makes it difficult to take advantage of the classes I mentioned, surely that's also by choice and hardly the fault of the authorities. What puzzzles me also is why there is no fuss about this throttle...

I symathise with your sentiments James, but that change is not as easy as you suggest. I also feel you've ignored what I said about there being a powered pedal cycle class suitable for them, not only having legal throttles but also the extra power to 1000 watts that many partially disabled...

See my reply to Jonathan75 above Neptune. I frankly don't see how this law is unjust when so many countries are happy with what it requires, not just in the EU but many other countries. As said, there are other classes that meet your needs if you must have a throttle. .

See my reply to Jonathan75 above James. Also I'm investigating another possibility for disabled people in addition to what I posted there. .

Effectively this has been done already Jonathan. The DfT had a consultation in whicn many of us took part, including trade members. Most of us I'm sure appealed for throttles to be allowed since this was known to be a widespread view, and our appeals were based on all the applicable issues...

These are the same in the UK Tony and its also the EU law, only the assist speed is legislated, not the pedal only or downhill speed. .