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Buying now is ok John, since parliament has still to see and approve the new law. That even makes change posible, but that is extremely unlikely since the consultation was concluded long ago. E-bikes currently bought will be entitled to "grandfather rights" after the change as detailed by the...

. Further information I've done some more digging and it's clear that a pedelec which complies with the section 1(h) exemption from Motor Vehicle Type approval in all respects other than having an independent acting throttle and/or motor rated power being up to 1000w will fall into class L1e-A...

In that case there probably isn't a problem according to the DfT. In the April 2013 meeting between the DfT, BEBA and interested parties when the acceptance of 250 watts being free of police prosecution was established, the DfT stated this in their intentions: The DfT and Police are aware that...

Richard is a publisher (Excellent Books) and co-author with David Henshaw of "Electric Bicycles", a book I was the official reviewer of. Richard has no legal qualification. As a keen cyclist he has produced a number of cycling books, maps and articles. A reader of David Henshaw's A to B...

The prior legality of the throttle from 1983 to 2003 was by omission, the EAPC regulations not mentioning any method of control, but the use of throttles became illegal when 2002/24/EC was introduced into UK law. That was widely ignored so we just continued with what we'd always done and the...

This isn't about the power though, it's about the use of an independent throttle. Any two or three wheeled motorised vehicle not exempted from type approval in the type approval part of 168/2013* has to be type approved and falls into a motor vehicle classification. In other words the start...

Me too, it appeared that way from the first announcement. Sadly this latest measure really means no throttles at all, even with type approval, since we only have the Moped class L1e-B for a type approved pedelec with throttle to go into. That means registration, full motor cycle rear number...

My one had nothing like that, she was a tomboy who liked nothing better than crawling about under motor vehicles doing repairs, emerging covered in black grease. Glamorous she never was. Her first husband was a farmer and she revelled in being a farm labourer working with him! .

. Further to what I originally added to my first post above, I see in the explanatory note that pedal cycles does not stop at three wheels but now includes many. Also the very restrictive 60 kilos weight limit on e-trikes has been removed. Both these measures will come as a relief to the...

. See my post above, the throttle problem isn't in the e-bike law but elsewhere as mentioned. Here's the exemption clause of that 168/2013 motor vehicle type approval law: h) pedal cycles with pedal assistance which are equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous...

I saw the possibility and thought this might happen when the new amendments allowing 250 watts was introduced Dave, despite it appearing to leave throttles legal with 250 watts as a pedelec. The root of the problem is the exemption clause for pedelecs in the two and three wheel motor vehicle...

I think that could make it even more likely that it's as I posted above as a possibility Shemozzle999. .

The first part is true of me, but minus the georgeous girl. I've suffered many years of very un-georgeous girls chasing me as a batchelor and my total lack of interest in them has been very Sheldon-like! When one somewhat Amy Farrah Fowler like girl was pushing me hard with an obvious desire...

BMZ of Germany who build the Kalkhoff batteries have used both Sony and Samsung cells in them. Since the Ebike Vision battery for Kalkhoff bikes is also built there, I wonder if it is also a BMZ, a sort of "Own Brand" product at a lower price, just like some of the Own Brand items in...

True also of both the Dutch polders and the flat areas of our eastern English counties, the lack of obstructions to impede wind in such areas can mean consistent and sometimes ferocious headwinds over very large areas. Both being on the seaboard, cyclists can use the North Sea shipping...

Yes, no question that an independent acting throttle is very useful in situations such as described by Kinninvie and d8veh. It's on normal roads that I can easily do without one, and indeed prefer a torque sensor for e-cycling relaxation. .

Perhaps that's part of a dread based appeal to many of us James, there are things in it which are uncomfortably close to so many of us! In my case there are some aspects of Sheldon in me. :( .

I'm largely in agreement with this John and indeed the attitudes of all our road users are relevant to the big differences. Critical mass here is important, Dutch cycling never slumped to the very low level ours did in the 1970s, so with the majority of Dutch drivers also being part time...

Not my complaint James, I'm not concerned about the reason that bikes persisted in the Netherlands. My posts were about the very different attitudes there and the consequences of those attitudes.

. I've seen this in my area too, also on TV with the "Walking Bus" initiatives for walking groups of children to school. .