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funkylyn

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Amazing.....now thats what I call a lock.......unless of course you lived in Gibraltar......cos then those Apes would still nick it :D :D

Lynda :)
 

jerrysimon

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Yes funny, its been posted before.

.......unless of course you lived in Gibraltar......cos then those Apes would still nick it Lynda :)
As a boy I lived in Gibraltar for three years. Mostly the apes stay up the Rock and don't come down as far as the town center, though the wild ones do sometimes. Evil little critters that they are :p

I have been back a few times for holidays. I still love it there, especially round the other side of the Rock where it is quiet. We usually stay in the Caleta Palace Hotel right on the sea edge. Its more modern now but when I was a boy in the 70s it was like Gib was caught in a 1950s time warp.





Must admit at this time of year the thought of being there in the summer is appealing. Anyway I have strayed way off topic sigh.....

Regards

Jerry
 
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funkylyn

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I love it when people stray off topic like that, makes the forum the entertaining place it is.

Me too !
Mind you, I am no fan of Gibraltar....too many tourists and too much hassle at the border !

My only one reason for liking Gib is that it is SUCH good fun to start up a " discussion " over it with the spanish in our local bars......and bring in a bit of Ceuta and Melilla for added spice....nothing better........happy days !! :D :D

Lynda :)
 

Mussels

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Me too !
Mind you, I am no fan of Gibraltar....too many tourists and too much hassle at the border !

My only one reason for liking Gib is that it is SUCH good fun to start up a " discussion " over it with the spanish in our local bars......and bring in a bit of Ceuta and Melilla for added spice....nothing better........happy days !! :D :D

Lynda :)
I found when I was trying to get across Spain that nobody had heard of Gibraltar, blank faces all round when I asked for a ticket there. But they knew La Linea, it was like asking an Argentinian where the Falklands are.
BTW you now have to pay a tenner to see the rock apes. Stuff that, if I want to get assaulted and robbed there are cheaper ways to do it.
 

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Stuff that, if I want to get assaulted and robbed there are cheaper ways to do it.
Yes, just stay back home where we live!

Back on subject, that bike "lock" if created wouldn't be legal in the UK anyway. Though widely ignored, the law prevents anyone attaching anything to street furniture. I'd think that's also true in most countries.
 

Mussels

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Yes, just stay back home where we live!

Back on subject, that bike "lock" if created wouldn't be legal in the UK anyway. Though widely ignored, the law prevents anyone attaching anything to street furniture. I'd think that's also true in most countries.
Does that law include bike racks?
 

funkylyn

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I found when I was trying to get across Spain that nobody had heard of Gibraltar, blank faces all round when I asked for a ticket there. But they knew La Linea, it was like asking an Argentinian where the Falklands are.
BTW you now have to pay a tenner to see the rock apes. Stuff that, if I want to get assaulted and robbed there are cheaper ways to do it.
LOL

Well its only very recently that they have actually put Gibraltar on the road signs nearby, but believe me.....start a conversation in a bar saying gibraltar belongs to the UK ....and they ALL know where it is then :D
But of course they are quick to protest that the spanish "involvement" with Ceuta and Melilla is "different"......interesting conversations.......but just dont expect to get many drinks bought for you :D

Lynda :)
 

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Does that law include bike racks?
:D. No! It's a matter of ownership and maintenance I think, lamp posts etc. Street lighting is usually operated on a supply and maintenance contract basis, for example, 48% of the world's street lighting is said to be supplied by Dutch company Philips and their subsidiaries.
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jerrysimon

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Warning.... long passionate post

We have always flown into Gib rather than go across the border from Spain. The runway was built during the second world war (reclaimed from the sea) built on a small race horse course that use to be there. It’s quite an experience flying in as planes are not allowed to fly in Spanish air space, so come round the rock and bank hard before landing on the short airstrip at the Spanish end. Any mistake and you are in the drink!

After landing they shut the runway whilst everyone drives/walks from the Spanish side of the runway across it to get to Gibs main land mass.




When I lived there, to get to Spain (the border was closed) you had to take a boat to Tangiers and then one back to Spain. It was very sad watching families on both sides of the border with binoculars looking and shouting across the divide to each other.

I do not think La Linea is very nice. We have been across to the market on our trips but you have to keep your hand firmly on your wallet/purse. The Spanish go through spells when they hold up cars at their end causing hours of delays just to make the point that they want Gib. Its best to walk. As you say the Spanish, Gibraltarian, UK feud has been going on for ages. At school there I learnt a lot about it. Gibraltarians consider themselves Gibraltarian first, British next and do not and claim they never will entertain Spanish citizenship at all. Their Spanish dialect is so different that Spaniards do not understand them or visa versa unless they are swearing at each other. The UK has tried to dump Gib back onto Spain a few times but they cannot do it unless the population vote to. They have tried that without success, even threatening to take away the very advantageous VAT free and tax breaks that exists there. In many ways its turned into a Hong Kong. Property there is now booming, its front side marinas being build and populated by the rich and wealthy incl many ex Russian arms dealers. It is also a gambling mega with both worldwide online and physical casinos racking money in.

Again although very touristy, (I love walking up and down the main high street where as a boy we first rented a flat over a busy shop), round the quieter side of the Rock it is very nice. When I was a kid all the main traffic tunnels were open so you could go drive right round the Rock. There were also many small man sized sub tunnels which were built to assist in construction of the main tunnels, which as kids we played in. They were unlit and very scarry. Now you can only go one way as the end tunnel is shut (or was last time I was there). The guy that designed/built (blasted out) the road tunnels was awarded a medal for building them so fast. They were later shut whilst unexploded chargers he had left where then removed! They also now have regular problems with collapses.

When we go we walk everywhere including up and down the Rock or taking the cable car. The views are simply stunning. The main Ape enclosure (the ones that were managed by the British Army when they were there) were free. Maybe now they charge. Be sure to visit the natural St Michael's caves. Human remains have been found there that date back thousands of years. BTW there is folk law that says when the Apes leave the Rock so will the British and or the Rock will slide into the Mediterranean.

In addition to the The Great Seige Tunnels where cannons where placed and pointed down to blast the Spaniards (see picture above), you can now visit the old Second World War tunnels that have been opened up. You have to pay a guide to take you but it is worth it. At the height of the war over 5000 service men and women were stationed and living "hidden" inside the Rock in miles of tunnels that were dug out. This was in preparation for a planned invasion of North Africa though I am not sure if it ever happened.

Gib is steeped in history and despite being back there over five times since I lived there as a boy, I always find something new. If you are interested in the Second World War many gun emplacements and fortresses remain to this day.

Finally, I lived out towards the other end of the Rock by the Trinity run lighthouse which then was manned (by my best friend’s dad) and is now automated. All this talk has me on the verge of booking another trip there this year.

To keep it on topic, maybe I will take my EBrompton there to test it out up and down the road that leads to the top of the Rock. I could always take it up in the cable car and free wheel all the way down :p





Regards

Jerry
 
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funkylyn

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Fantastic pictures Jerry and interesting history.

So, for that, I think you deserve to book a quick sunny winter break over there.....dont forget to post the pics of you and the Brompton when you get back...... :D

Lynda :)
 

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Thanks Lynda, though I doubt my wife and I will go before we pay for and attend my youngerst daughter's wedding in August :(

She is marrying an Italian so who knows perhaps we may end up visiting there as well :)

Regards

Jerry