Brexit, for once some facts.
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Apologies, I thought even you would have seen that word elsewhere, but not to worry I shall stick to short words you have a chance to understand ,after all we don't want you to keep making an ass of yourself as you just did do we?
You might be surprised by how many pop in from time to time.
In addition to some of the current regulars, a quick scan of the first 10 pages of the thread reveals these 18 posters:
Trex, Flud, lectureral, Kenny, Croxden, d8veh, d8ve, cosybike, damian, derf, HelenJ, Mike Killay, martx007, Gubbins, KTM, the_killjoy, BrendanJ, timidtom.
There are very many more in the remaining 2086 pages if you care to check.
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Plus of course the 35 non posters that you know who assured us have each checked the site 50 times per day without missing a single day since the referendum
I don't think it would go back to that. Undoubtedly things would be difficult, but I cannot see that Europe would not want to continue trading with the UK, and I am sure that agreements will be reached, before too much damage is done. We are a big market and as has been said, there is a lot of integration. All the scare stories may have an element of truth but also an element of exaggeration, and even panic.
I read a quote from a man in Kent who said that for every lorry going to Europe 20 were coming this way. Make of that what you will
a devaluation of the Pound will make the UK much less attractive to EU workers. They go home or to a Eurozone country, guess who are going to replace them?
yes, the bill is in Euros. The £39 billions is the current estimate. It will probably go higher because we are likely going to need a longer transition if we leave the single market and customs union.
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we will continue to trade with the EU like before.
What will affect us if we leave the EU's single market and customs union is the outflow of assets. Banks will move their assets to the EU, Japanese car makers, pharmaceuticals will also reduce their capacity, the balance of payments will be hit hard.
Remember back to the referendum .....it was all going to be so easy,theEU sell more to us so they will be desperate for a deal,we are going to be better off,£350 million to the NHS,taking back control of fish,agriculture our borders,easy trade deals with the rest of the world.
‘We are not as prepared as we should be’.....that is the understatement of the year,Santa Claus is better prepared....our government have done nothing,no customs,no lorry parks,no aviation deal,no passport equivalent,no plan for Ireland and who would you honestly trust more for future trade deals.....Liam Fox or the EU?
You really are delusional if you think that no deal will be ok...if we do go for no deal let’s hope the EU save us from an embarrassing disaster.
Do you really think this government are doing anything for ‘the national interest’....May knows that U-turning would be the sensible out,but it would be out for her,Boris would have to get out his Remain speech,Davis might have to do some work,Rees-Mogg would buy £ with his inflated dollars,Liam Fox would collect his pension and Gove would sharpen his knife to stab May in the back.....anyone who thinks that no deal will be ok should expect a visit from the nice young men in white coats and be wheeled off to the funny farm to be talk to nicely.
Brexit was supposed to be positive for us,yet you compare it to your mum’s recollections of the Second World War,incredulous.....it frightens me that you are typical of the Leave voter and might even prevail.
KudosDave
Profit is good. It's what drives people to produce stuff other people are willing to pay for.
This just in from Jeremy Hunt:
"The UK will “flourish and prosper” even if it walks away from the EU without a deal, Jeremy Hunt has insisted. In an interview with The Telegraph, the Foreign Secretary says that while a no-deal Brexit would cause disruption, the country has faced much bigger challenges in its history."
See.
My Mum is right.
I understand the thinking behind that but maybe it would not happen. Businesses have more than financial considerations. At the moment there is a lot of turmoil in Europe. A rise of far right parties. France Italy Spain even Germany is having problems, so maybe some may think twice before relocating, if for instance the tax regime is more favourable
'Much less'? Go find out what average earnings are in Poland take off 15% and tell me how much change you have.
Seriously? 'forecast has very much in common with the decade after the war'. What? Flecc. For you that's low. Have you any idea how much living standards have gone up since then? What on EARTH are you on? Nuts. You're nuts. Barmy. Crazy. To believe such things. How can you possibly twist your mind around to think that? Ah well. Never mind. Strictly's final was fun. Time for bed.
I actually know,I deal with many suppliers who are subbies to Ford and Jaguar Land Rover,they have cancelled pre ordered product because they don’t need the bits,they are short time working,look around the outer car parks round the NEC....they are full of unsold vehicles. Walk into any car dealer and they are desperate to move stock.
And all this is on uncertainty ,if no deal or a bad deal becomes real,these vehicles will become so much scrap and massive redundancies will be the result.
I have many friends at JLR,they fear for their jobs,and many realised that voting leave could be voting themselves out of a job.
I actually know.
KudosDave
net annual EU immigration was 174,000 before the referendum, 74,000 last 12 months, down 100,000 because their take home in Euros is 15% less. If we have a no deal brexit, the Pound will drop to parity with the Euro, we'll probably stop EU immigration altogether.
That may be what you want but our food will be about 10% dearer within 2 years.
If we bring corporation tax down to 10% and throw out grants to the Chinese,they may use our own money to buy up cheap trading businesses in the U.K.,hehe.
KudosDave
If we go into WTO it will be a lot dearer than 10%,meat and butter could become very expensive.