The bill for Christmas is a hefty one. 1820 people died today. Imagine if Party Boy Johnson had got his way and we’d had the big five day get together.
it was cold and Biden deliberately tried to turn down the volume.They always are pretty dreadful.
And you'd vote for him again eh?The bill for Christmas is a hefty one. 1820 people died today. Imagine if Party Boy Johnson had got his way and we’d had the big five day get together.
If Jeremy Corbyn was the alternative, yes I would. No doubt about it.And you'd vote for him again eh?![]()
Well it's a start but not for meIf Jeremy Corbyn was the alternative, yes I would. No doubt about it.
If I had to vote today, I’d probably vote Labour.
I wonder it everything went off as peacefully everywhere?They always are pretty dreadful. But I'd rather the singer was gaga than the president.
Because you've misused the data. Sweden like others close to the arctic circle have their population densely packed in the south, so your countrywide figures are invalid. That not how they are living. And in the south as very sociable people they live predominantly in cities and towns, just like us. Their countryside is sparsely populated and their farmi ng is modern with few employees, just like here.That's rubbish Flecc. How on earth can anybody not think population density is going to affect a pandemic.??
Of course, because they are socialist country, another example we should follow.Also Sweden enjoys a higher standard of living and unfortunately as we, ve all become only too aware the poor have suffered most.. Along with our Asian communities. (which represent 8% of our population and 1.8 % of Sweden's)
It's because I am being objective and you aren't by introducing countries not under discussion. There is relevance to my consistent promotion of the Swedish way for Britain, not for those other three countries. We made a terrible mistake at the outset with Covid in trying for herd immunity, and that left us in a position with valid comparisons to Sweden's lackadaisical "do nothing" approach in their initial outset. But what they've done subsequently has produced results far, far better than ours at every stage and could have done for us too. But obviously not for those other three who started differently.I, ve no idea why you are holding Sweden up as a good example any way. Finland, Norway, and Denmark, all of similar socio economic and geopolitical make up have done far better.
You aren't being objective flecc
Totally wrong, as is that Guardian headline. They got through it much, much better than us financially, educationally and in death rate solely because of their strategy. We tried to change course to the so called better strategy and failed miserably with the worlds highest death rate and very many billions of squandered financial future. If they'd followed us they's have been in a terrible mess now,![]()
As Covid death toll soars ever higher, Sweden wonders who to blame
With the death toll expected to rise over Christmas, the country asks who will take responsibility for the flawed approachwww.theguardian.com
I doubt Guardian will be putting any spin on it that could see Boris in a better light.
Sweden's strategy failed, they came through it OK for all reasons explained.
They have got through it in spite of their strategy, not because if it.
This is a discussion about Britain and Sweden's Covid outcomes, not political popularity.Re, Sweden - not so
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Sweden’s Social Democrats succumb to coronavirus critics
Stefan Löfven’s party loses top poll spot and gets a hiding in parliament.www.politico.eu
We, ll have to agree to disagree again flecc.Because you've misuse the data. Sweden like others close to the arctic circle have their population densely packed in the south, so your countrywide figures are invalid. That not how they are living. And in the south as very sociable people they live predominantly in cities and towns, just like us. Their countryside is sparsely populated and their farmi ng is modern with few employees, just like here.
Of course, because they are socialist country, another example we should follow.
It's because I am being objective and you aren't by introducing countries not under discussion. There is relevance to my consistent promotion of the Swedish way for Britain, not for those other three countries. We made a terrible mistake at the outset with Covid in trying for herd immunity, and that left us in a position with valid comparisons to Sweden's lackadaisical "do nothing" approach in their initial outset. But what they've done subsequently has produced results far, far better than ours at every stage and could have done for us too. But obviously not for those other three who started differently.
Totally wrong, as is that Guardian headline. They got through it much, much better than us financially, educationally and in death rate solely because of their strategy. We tried to change course to the so called better strategy and failed miserably with the worlds highest death rate and very many billions of squandered financial future. If they'd followed us they's have been in a terrible mess now,
These are relevant facts, not Sage and others trying to use Sweden as some warped kind of excuse for our awful performance. Sweden has done much, much better in every respect from a very similar bad start to ours and in this subject discussion that is all that matters.
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The difference being that you are disagreeing with the fact that Sweden had done so much better than us from a similar start.We, ll have to agree to disagree again flecc.
Stephen Crabb - our MP - actually voted against the order to abstain - along with five others.If Jeremy Corbyn was the alternative, yes I would. No doubt about it.
If I had to vote today, I’d probably vote Labour.
She's a woman, what else would you expect in this now female biased world.Has Biden croaked already? Watching the BBC coverage you would think Harris had become president.
This is a discussion about Britain and Sweden's Covid outcomes, not political popularity.
Well over half our country are very unhappy about our present lot's handling of Covid, they lost patience long ago.
Sweden is doing fine, 24% lower death rate than ours, not the countless billions of our financial future squandered and their kids losing hardly any schooling and with no exam losses. I wish that was us !
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I knew all that, much of it threatened but not happened. But it's still almost all much better or certainly no worse than here.![]()
Covid-19: Sweden considers tougher restrictions as ICU beds near capacity
Health officials in Sweden have warned that intensive care units (ICUs) in and around Stockholm are under severe pressure and close to capacity for the first time during the pandemic. Although the city’s hospitals could increase the number of beds allocated to ICUs, there are insufficient...www.bmj.com
The Swedish government changed its approach to the pandemic last month when it introduced tougher restrictions on social interactions after cases started to rise.1 The soft approach the government had adopted, based on recommendations and voluntary behaviour of citizens, has shifted as cases of infection with SARS-CoV-2 have continued to surge along with hospitalisations and deaths.
This week Prime Minister Stefan Löfven announced that the ban on gatherings of more than eight people would extend to the Christmas holidays, while secondary schools have been told to switch to distance learning for the rest of the term. The government has also asked the parliament to grant it more authority to implement new measures such as closing shopping malls and gyms.
Still doesn't seem as good as you make out - and once the more infectictious strain gets a hold....
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Sweden’s Covid Workers Are Quitting in Dangerous Numbers
Sweden faces a shortage of health-care workers as the number of resignations ticks up after a relentless year of caring for Covid patients.www.bloomberg.com
The finding that six doses can be obtained from vial has been reported from the USA some time ago. But I don't know whether they adjusted deliveries at all.
Think its possible to access article without enrolling if you go through link.
(click on article in twitter feed)
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Covid vaccine development: The shots available and the doses administered
After a year of breakneck research and development, inoculations have begunwww.ft.com
Worldwide vaccine tracker.
Yep, with a special hypodermic the can get 6 doses out of vial containing 5...All seems rather unscientific tho. What amazes me, this isn't actually a problem with the vaccine, it's problems with vials and how much they hold or production lines. This could/should have been sorted months ago..The finding that six doses can be obtained from vial has been reported from the USA some time ago. But I don't know whether they adjusted deliveries at all.