Got my wisper!
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Yes thats how I feel as well.......the power delivery is far from subtle and is wasteful IMO. I want to exercise and add the power when i need it, not be hurled forward, where I feel my peddling is struggling and not contributing. Maybe I should have bought a pro connect.
The wisper needs more R&D I think
I think this is common to most of the powerful hub motor bikes, the eZee models very similar. The lack of fine control on Hall sensor throttles is partly to blame of course, and eZee's 9 position switched EAF control was one answer to that, though even with that, many just used it in a couple of positions like 5 and 9.
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Try this
Eddy,
When riding slowly, I now use "Mussels" idea, turn the electrics off with the red button. When on an upslope, and you need the assist, just flick it back on. Save the battery capacity for when you really need it.
Part of my 20 mile ride this morning was on an old rail track, it has a very, very slight downslope throughout it's entire mile and a half. I turned the power off and easily maintained 15 MPH with the pedals. I think you need to stick with it until your fitness level returns.
Two years ago my riding style was me assisting the motor when needed on hills and pulling away, Now that the strength has returned to my legs it's exactly the opposite, I am now strong enough on the pedals to only use the assist when really needed. By the way, I still had all three LED's when returning home. Mind you, the last mile to my house was a very smooth and wide cycleway, I couldn't resist the temptation, on went the "afterburners" for a quick thrash!!.
Using this refined riding technique, together with my own improved fitness, I see no reason why the upper quoted range figure of 60 miles could not be achieved. Quite likely, I will run some range tests again soon and see if I can hit that upper figure.
If all goes to plan, the "brute" should be arriving at the Port next week. I'm really looking forward to making it's aquaintance. Trouble is, i'm going to need a bigger stable!!
Regards
Bob
Eddy,
When riding slowly, I now use "Mussels" idea, turn the electrics off with the red button. When on an upslope, and you need the assist, just flick it back on. Save the battery capacity for when you really need it.
Part of my 20 mile ride this morning was on an old rail track, it has a very, very slight downslope throughout it's entire mile and a half. I turned the power off and easily maintained 15 MPH with the pedals. I think you need to stick with it until your fitness level returns.
Two years ago my riding style was me assisting the motor when needed on hills and pulling away, Now that the strength has returned to my legs it's exactly the opposite, I am now strong enough on the pedals to only use the assist when really needed. By the way, I still had all three LED's when returning home. Mind you, the last mile to my house was a very smooth and wide cycleway, I couldn't resist the temptation, on went the "afterburners" for a quick thrash!!.
Using this refined riding technique, together with my own improved fitness, I see no reason why the upper quoted range figure of 60 miles could not be achieved. Quite likely, I will run some range tests again soon and see if I can hit that upper figure.
If all goes to plan, the "brute" should be arriving at the Port next week. I'm really looking forward to making it's aquaintance. Trouble is, i'm going to need a bigger stable!!
Regards
Bob
Power control
Hi Guys
The 2009 Wispers come with hi and lo range which can be retrofitted to existing bikes.
The low is 20% and the hi 80% power, the beauty of this system when working in conjunction with the throttle is the 20% can be increased by simply gradually turning the throttle, this will have he effect of increasing the help from the motor up to 100% in 1% increments.
This is what our NZ means by cruise controll, his words not ours and I assume the intelligence comes from the rider!!
Regards David
Hi Guys
The 2009 Wispers come with hi and lo range which can be retrofitted to existing bikes.
The low is 20% and the hi 80% power, the beauty of this system when working in conjunction with the throttle is the 20% can be increased by simply gradually turning the throttle, this will have he effect of increasing the help from the motor up to 100% in 1% increments.
This is what our NZ means by cruise controll, his words not ours and I assume the intelligence comes from the rider!!
Regards David
Interesting, David,Hi Guys
The 2009 Wispers come with hi and lo range which can be retrofitted to existing bikes.
The low is 20% and the hi 80% power, the beauty of this system when working in conjunction with the throttle is the 20% can be increased by simply gradually turning the throttle, this will have he effect of increasing the help from the motor up to 100% in 1% increments.
This is what our NZ means by cruise controll, his words not ours and I assume the intelligence comes from the rider!!
Regards David
Why not take it to 100%? That is the problem with the pedelec system as it currently is - it doesn't give as much power as with the throttle. It doesn't sound like your new system adresses this.
On the original SE, of course, there is an easy if not completely safe solution, which is to fix the throttle permanently open and use the red button on the right to switch full power on and off as required. Before good old Jimmy England got to the bottom of the original pedelec wiring problems that is what I actually did, and the bike performed well, both in speed and range.
Ooer
I second your first comment, in fact I'm feeling a bit thick, as I don't understand what that new system addresses.
However, with a permanantly open I would be worried about missing that button when I need to stop or accidently turning it on when walking it in a crowd.
I've lost count of the times I've turned the key to find the button already in the on position. Would be an accident waiting to happen with me.
Regards,
Seeker
Hi Frank,
I second your first comment, in fact I'm feeling a bit thick, as I don't understand what that new system addresses.
However, with a permanantly open I would be worried about missing that button when I need to stop or accidently turning it on when walking it in a crowd.
I've lost count of the times I've turned the key to find the button already in the on position. Would be an accident waiting to happen with me.
Regards,
Seeker
Exactly - that's why I didn't post it on the forum at the time, as I didn't want to encourage others to do it! Now the pedelec does work, it's not worth the extra risk for only a small power gain.
I think the ideal would be a "boost button" that took the power up to 100% but which was reset to off if the brakes were touched
I think the ideal would be a "boost button" that took the power up to 100% but which was reset to off if the brakes were touched
I would like to change by handlebars and the requirement for a twist grip is very restricting, a push and hold button would be much easier. Unfortunately the ideal handlebars haven't been found yet but I'll keep searching for something that won't obstruct my hallway so much.
Did Wisper ever make the hi/lo controller available for retrofitting to the 2008 905SE?
If so, whats the cost, has anyone fitted it, and is it worth it?
Regards,
Elephants
Retro fit
Hi Elephants
Sorry the Hi Lo boxes cannot be retro fitted. They do not work well.
All the best David
Hi Elephants
Sorry the Hi Lo boxes cannot be retro fitted. They do not work well.
All the best David
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