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eddieo

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in all seriousness I would courier it to someone like Onbike and if they can sort out the problem only THEN buy a battery from them.......:rolleyes:
 

flecc

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Ah, in that case I'm at a loss for why the electric stops working when the brakes are configured.
The switch contact must be "made" all the time to cut out the power, since if they fail or are disconnected the system works ok. Personally I never bother with them and leave them disconnected, but I wouldn't recommend this for Gaynor since she might find it unsafe. She did have an accident connected with the brake function some while ago so doubtless wouldn't want to risk repeating that experience.

It needs a competent e-bike dealer to set up the brakes and ensure the contacts are opening with the brake levers fully released. The contacts wiring terminates in two white connectors in the handlebar battery meter housing, shown here as number 1:

 

Gaynor

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in all seriousness I would courier it to someone like Onbike and if they can sort out the problem only THEN buy a battery from them
Too late, i ordered the 14 ah ... some people tell me its just a brake and should be a easy thing to fix, but then when I am told about the electric bike 'science' behind the brakes on elec bikes I feel a little worried.

I mean the bike works fine when the battery was last in it, but tightening up the brake cuts it out (sorry for repeating myself)
 

Mussels

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Which bit are you tightening when it causes the cutout? You can make adjustments at both ends, I suggest relaxing as much adjustment as possible at the lever and taking up the slack at the wheel end. Squirting wd40 into the switch is not a bad idea when you are out of other options.
 

Gaynor

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Which bit are you tightening when it causes the cutout? You can make adjustments at both ends, I suggest relaxing as much adjustment as possible at the lever and taking up the slack at the wheel end. Squirting wd40 into the switch is not a bad idea when you are out of other options.
'Onbike' say next day delivery, but being a Saturday tomorrow I will probably get the battery on Monday, I will take some pictures and explain when it cuts off, what's daunting is the 'science' bit, I never thought I would have to go so far as to send it using a courier service.

A friend said he moved a wire when he was tightening up the brake, I was quite seriously ill around that time I cant remember, it would be useful to find that missing (old) battery to re try, obviously without a battery there's no problem, brake fixed, the bike is so light without a battery, but with the hilly area I would be walking along side the bike most of the time, I would like to show some photos of the actual hills, I wonder if other bike users can manage such steep terrain, I really live in the wrong area, but like I said in a previous post I wouldn't get a licence for a motor bike because of my health, and medications, although I am feeling 95% better.

I wonder if other bike users are getting moaned at (understatement) from family members, saying that quote ''Electric bikes are TOO dangerous'' ect ect ect......, I explained to mum 'its the rider not the bike',

You have to think for other peoples driving, as you are quite vulnerable when a van goes past you and calls out, wolf whistles you, nearly knocking you into the pavement, but I have to convince my family that E bikes aren't as dangerous as the press make out, it should be put into proportion with other accidents that happen on the road.

When I was diagnosed over two years ago and had to go straight to the hospital I was careless, thinking I have just been given a death sentence, I was a complete wreck therefore I had an accident, I have had two, but I have learned from them, and because of them will be very, very careful when I make my Quando 2 road worthy again..

Thankyou

Gaynor
 

Hermit

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...as you are quite vulnerable when a van goes past you and calls out, wolf whistles you...
As a middle-aged (and slightly overweight, not to put too fine a point on it) man, that's not something I've had to endure up to now (hope springs eternal though). I suspect I'm far from alone in this too :rolleyes:

Sounds like you've been through the mill though and I hope you get sorted and continue to make the recovery you've given indication of :)
 

thunderblue

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Hey Gaynor,


I'd really recommend some cycle training. Nothing like it to give you confidence in traffic. Look for somewhere like this Cycle training / On-road and off-road cycling / BikeRight! cycle training They teach you where to position yourself safely, so that other road users can tell more easily what you are doing. I've done it and even though I felt quite confident before, it has made a big difference to me.

Elaine:)
 

Mussels

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Hey Gaynor,


I'd really recommend some cycle training. Nothing like it to give you confidence in traffic. Look for somewhere like this Cycle training / On-road and off-road cycling / BikeRight! cycle training They teach you where to position yourself safely, so that other road users can tell more easily what you are doing. I've done it and even though I felt quite confident before, it has made a big difference to me.

Elaine:)
I'd love to see one of their instructors keeping up with an electric bike on the assessment. :D
 

flecc

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I'd love to see one of their instructors keeping up with an electric bike on the assessment. :D
Especially where Gaynor lives, she has a 1 in 7 or 1 in 5 hill to contend with, hence the Quando.
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thunderblue

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I'd love to see one of their instructors keeping up with an electric bike on the assessment. :D
have to admit - I didn't use my electric bike. But they have seen it since at road shows and were really impressed. They do have a large range of bikes - lots of folding Bromptons and I think at least 1 electric On-bike!
 

Gaynor

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Especially where Gaynor lives, she has a 1 in 7 or 1 in 5 hill to contend with, hence the Quando.
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Yes as you know, in some areas you are looking down vertically, you have to continually sqeeze that brake, i see some poeple fly down there on non elecrtric bikes (or on skateboards even -useing their feet for brakes!) and fear for them if their brake decides to looosen as they then turn a sharp corner (with two way traffic) crazy.

I dont mean to run before i can walk here, but I am trying to find the instructions I had, or a link to old posts which explain how to condition the battery, when it's new, as I can run it down by holding the throttle with the stand on the bike, but i think you have to run the batterys right down, but without a computer how would you know if its run down, there is the lights, red amber green. so i guess thats the way, im very forgetful, but I think you do this for 2 days.

I feel like a kid at Christmas knowing the battery is on it's way, and with the excellent advice and tips.. i.e.


I'd really recommend some cycle training. Nothing like it to give you confidence in traffic. Look for somewhere like this Cycle training / On-road and off-road cycling / BikeRight! cycle training They teach you where to position yourself safely, so that other road users can tell more easily what you are doing. I've done it and even though I felt quite confident before, it has made a big difference to me.
Also, The shops mentioned, and the time all of you have given me I am very grateful :)

Once I am down to the seafront there is a bike path, it goes for about.... I think two miles, and then just stops infront of a busy road, but I bought my bike for leisure, so just going up and down the pathway with the sea view beside me, and the breeze is such a great feeling, and cycling gives you the feeling of freedom, especially if you don't have access to other vehicles (Or a horse ;) ) There is always a little problem, with what i can or cant get when going shopping, i do have a 'saddle' with large pockets and sometimes wear a rucksack, after seeing how much Flec can carry i feel confident my bike can handle my shopping, I also think Flec must have calfs of steel, something that I have to build up, although I bought this that really gives your calfs a good work out, which surely helps when you really have to tackle some steep hills when back on the bike.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/i...556388&sr=8-15

Gaynor
 
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Gaynor

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But they have seen it since at road shows and were really impressed.

I was very impressed with the prices below, one comes with a battery, but once you have one bike and battery you can swap and change...hmmm thats another thing I was wondering last night, do you get a ]key to go with the bike thats just for that particular bike or for the battery, excuse me to what sounds like a stupid question, but when I couldnt find the Quando keys I was wondering weather 'they' can replace it, but once the battery is in you turn the key, so a bit confused here.
Think I need to buy myself a book called 'electric bikes for dummies' ;)

eZee Torq Electric Bicycle | cyclepoint â„¢
 

flecc

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Cyclepoint are no longer the agents Gaynor, those are old unsold stock. The bike will be ok but the batteries might not be fresh. Onbike are the best bet for eZee batteries now.

To condition the battery, first fully charge it on receipt, then ride the bike until the battery is almost empty or cuts out, then repeat the whole thing again so that it's been done twice. This has to be done while riding, running a bike on the stand will take days to discharge the battery since the current drain is minute then.

You will need to find your original Quando key, they do vary so cannot be re-supplied without the key pattern, though occasionally another eZee key will be a rough fit.
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Gaynor

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Cyclepoint are no longer the agents Gaynor, those are old unsold stock. The bike will be ok but the batteries might not be fresh. Onbike are the best bet for eZee batteries now.

I have the spare Quando key.

My new battery came this morning, I charged at first for just over an hour and got the green light, i turned it off and recharged again and once again got the green light, so thought I would try the batttery in the bike, all I keep getting is a flashing red light, i then charged the battery for another 5 hours while it remained on green, just tried again and no throttle, I see the green light on the handlebar, but still got the flashing, I also noticed when not pressing the throttle it was stiff to ride, this was every half tun as if something is stopping the back tire, I only thought I had a problem with a brake, not this :(
 

flecc

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The battery is obviously fully charged so no need to charge that any more now.

I take it that the flashing red you mention is at the controller just behind the battery. Can you switch on and count the number of flashes that occur on that red LED? Let me know that so I can know tell what the fault cause is.

Don't worry about the binding at the rear yet, it could be the rear wheel displaced to one side, but that sort of thing can easily be fixed by a bike repairer or whoever fixes the brake fault.
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Gaynor

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The battery is obviously fully charged so no need to charge that any more now.

I take it that the flashing red you mention is at the controller just behind the battery. Can you switch on and count the number of flashes that occur on that red LED? Let me know that so I can know tell what the fault cause is.

Don't worry about the binding at the rear yet, it could be the rear wheel displaced to one side, but that sort of thing can easily be fixed by a bike repairer or whoever fixes the brake fault.
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I get 4 flashes on the side of the bike, then it stops. then another four flashes ect
 

Gaynor

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Don't worry about the binding at the rear yet, it could be the rear wheel displaced to one side, but that sort of thing can easily be fixed by a bike repairer or whoever fixes the brake fault.
Do you mean a 'normal' bike shop Flec, because I have looked on ebay for a courier and I see the cost is £120 EACH WAY (phew) And theres the payment of the repair, so say it's around £40 (not sure) also I have had this bike 3 years (yet rid it for one and a bit) so then I get to thinking this is costing nearly the price of those unsold bikes where the fresh Quando would cost £500 eZee Quando 2 Electric Bicycle | cyclepoint â„¢ , but that would mean credit And debit card! another bike that i havent got room for in the sitting room also. I just want a working bike, of course.

Your last post sounds promising though, it gives me some hope, I wait in haste.

Gaynor
 

allen-uk

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Gaynor:

A couple of weeks back I wanted a price for sending my old bike to my brother-in-law in the west of Ireland. One price I got was nearly £200!

Anyway, I used this site:

Cheap Couriers | Cheap Delivery Services > Shiply

which is a sort of courier 'auction' site - you put in your details and wait (for a few hours or whatever) and get offers from various couriers.

For my London-Galway trip it ranged from £190 down to £38!

This was for a boxed bike (using the bike box from my newly purchased Wisper), but worth a try as long as you can wrap the bike well.

Allen.