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guerney

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Pas is very quick. When mounting it has kicked in before ones even got ones leg over ! Pretty good for a septegenarian me thinks.
Rules start angle out then. Must be some other myserious WTF PLC setting. Carry on. I continue reading with morbid fascination and sense of dread with terminal confusion.

Likely total bullocks of course: Is there a rate at which pedal assist reduces when you stop pedalling, somewhere in your WTF PLC settings? Pedal assist start/resumption might be waiting for pedal assist reduction to end?
 
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Benjahmin

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Nah, stops pretty much straight away, almost as quick as a new government drops it's manifesto promises..........oops!
I think I should point out that the WTF PLC programming on KT is carried out by button pushing alone without the need for a programming cable and laptop :rolleyes::cool:
 
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guerney

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Continuing my clutching at straws... do KTs have regen? Is some particulary bewildering WTF PLC regen setting or other, causing a pause in resumption of pedal assist and throttle?
 
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Benjahmin

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Leaping sideways, like a top flight goal keeper, and plucking at this straw as it wizzes by in a gale force wind - there is some sort of regen setting in the display (instructions written in chinglish of course), however it's an AKM geared hub so there can be no regen.
 

Cadence

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Can't say I've noticed this problem, but then I tend to take advantage of gravity to freewheel down slopes! Does stopping pedalling for, say, a couple of seconds just before you reach the upslope make any difference? Just wondering if there is some sort of PAS lag caused by the higher speed? Probably not, but can't think of anything else.
 

Benjahmin

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Tried it both ways (careful !), when going down a main road, good surface straight bit at 35mph, one is certainly not pedalling.
Having read the C14 notes again and trying to decipher further, it seems to be referring to the relative strengths of assistance levels 1-4, with 5 still being power available at max set current......I think:confused: I'll give it a try though.
After all it only involves pushing a few buttons.:)
 

Sparksandbangs

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Not knowing anything whatsoever about WTF PLC and other settings on these mysterious hub motored objects, I'm wondering if pedal assist delay has something to do with start angle? WTF WTF PLC setting that would be, I haven't the foggiest. My pedal assist start angle is a very convenient 30° - all so much easier to understand on my Bafang BBS01B mid-drive thank F. I do hope this issue is resolved somehow soon, but this thread has further put me off ever attempting a hub drive conversion.
There are less than 25 settings on a KT controller. Angle of the dangle isn't one of them.
 

Sparksandbangs

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Tried it both ways (careful !), when going down a main road, good surface straight bit at 35mph, one is certainly not pedalling.
Having read the C14 notes again and trying to decipher further, it seems to be referring to the relative strengths of assistance levels 1-4, with 5 still being power available at max set current......I think:confused: I'll give it a try though.
After all it only involves pushing a few buttons.:)
From memory, so may be flawed. C14 at 3 adds 20% to levels 1-4. Level 5 is unchanged. C14 at 2 should be normal. C14 at 1 removes 20% at levels 1 -4. 5 is unchanged.

C14 at 1 doesn't work as expected on mine.
 

matthewslack

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So ghost pedalling throughout the 35mph downhill makes no difference either? That ought to look the same to the controller as pedalling beyond cutout speed on the flat, and then dropping back in, which earlier you said was now smooth and immediate.

Stranger and stranger.