Old Giant struggles with hill.

saneagle

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You've all been very helpful so far, thanks.
Re. Cabling: I'm competent with a soldering iron etc., so while I don't mind too much about cutting and splicing cables for PAS etc., I'd prefer to leave the 9 way Julet motor connector as is, so looking for a mating cable. I seem to be able to find plenty, but they're only 600mm long, which won't reach from the controller, which is between the seat down tube and the rear mudguard, to the front hub. Any idea where I might find a longer cable, without breaking the bank?
Also, I'm hoping that the LCD5 display I ordered comes complete with cable, but it's hard to tell from that Pswpower web site.
There are loads of people selling motor cables of every type and length on Ebay.
 

Peter.Bridge

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This is how it looks on PC, I don't know how t looks on Android, iDevice etc... they've got controller descriptions in the "Alt" tag of the images, which only appear when you hover over them with your mouse pointer, and what you've selected for "SKU" only appears above after you've selected an image.

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Its really confusing on Android because you don't see the alt text when you select it, but after you have selected everything it shows it

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Its really confusing on Android because you don't see the alt text when you select it, but after you have selected everything it shows it

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There's no "MouseOver" equivalent event to program for on Android, but if you press and hold on the controller image, the ALT text pops up. Mobile devices have ruined the internet.
 
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jarnold

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Holy cow! The controller arrived today! Complete with a throttle I don't want/didn't order and a PAS that I don't want/didn't order, and a cable that doesn't seem to be if any use. Sadly, the motor cable will probably take much longer in transit.
 
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jarnold

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So...I guess the throttle will be useful for testing, and I might replace the PAS that I already have, even though the sensor is epoxied to the frame...
However, I'm slightly dismayed that there appears to be no "learn mode", so I'll have to try 36 different permutations of phases and hall sensors, unless there's a shortcut or trick?
 

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So...I guess the throttle will be useful for testing, and I might replace the PAS that I already have, even though the sensor is epoxied to the frame...
However, I'm slightly dismayed that there appears to be no "learn mode", so I'll have to try 36 different permutations of phases and hall sensors, unless there's a shortcut or trick?
If you have a KT controller, you can have a legal throttle with P4 =1 and C4=3. That way, the throttle gives 4mphwhen not pedalling and 15 mph when pedalling. It works like a boost button. You ride along at level 3 or whatever you want, then when you press the throttle, it goes immediately to level 5 to boost you across crossings, round roundabouts and up short hills. When you let go of the throttle, it goes back to level 3 - much easier than working your way up and down the buttons.
 
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jarnold

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If you have a KT controller, you can have a legal throttle with P4 =1 and C4=3. That way, the throttle gives 4mphwhen not pedalling and 15 mph when pedalling. It works like a boost button. You ride along at level 3 or whatever you want, then when you press the throttle, it goes immediately to level 5 to boost you across crossings, round roundabouts and up short hills. When you let go of the throttle, it goes back to level 3 - much easier than working your way up and down the buttons.
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Interesting.
Any insights on sorting the phase and hall connections? Further reading suggests it might not be necessary to go through all 36 permutations, but you guys seem to have a lot of experience.
 

saneagle

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Interesting.
Any insights on sorting the phase and hall connections? Further reading suggests it might not be necessary to go through all 36 permutations, but you guys seem to have a lot of experience.
36 combinations of which 3 will work, so the chance of getting it right first time is 1 in 12. And you should get it within 12 tries. If it takes you 33 tries to get it right, buy a Euromillions ticket for tonight because it's over £125 million and you'll be due some luck.
 

jarnold

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36 combinations of which 3 will work, so the chance of getting it right first time is 1 in 12. And you should get it within 12 tries. If it takes you 33 tries to get it right, buy a Euromillions ticket for tonight because it's over £125 million and you'll be due some luck.
Sadly, luck doesn't work like that.