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and how much did the uk spend on ppe that went to the tip millions but thats fine 300k plus kids missing in usa dont care like i said u wont answer my question can a immigrant kill ur family and will u forgive them them a put a roof over there head?
it's a big subject and I am at work. I'll answer you tonight, after work.
 

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its called watch the real news info wars ur years behind the real news just give it 6, 12 months and it all comes true :D
 

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Weren't they all suddenly stabbed to death while at work ?

Mind you, that J.D.Vance he looks the type:oops:
In my new Mary Beard book it has a list of emperors and how long they lasted. At the start of the Roman dictatorship known as the Empire, the Emperors usually managed to last a couple of decades, but often as you say, being suddenly assassinated. Later though, the reigns lasted barely four years, or even just months before they met a gory end.

Of course, America has a significant record of assassination, which is quite troubling.

Here is some more information about the transition between the Roman Republic - a period where the Senate governed on behalf of the people and the long period of dictatorial rule by Emperors. The Romans in the early days hated 'Kings', and set up a system of government in which an elected Senate chose TWO consuls from among its members to make decisions. Of course, powerful megalomaniacs eventually ditched that system. This began with Julius Caesar a highly charismatic general, who seized power himself after winning a popular war in Gaul (France). He also invaded Britain, though never managed to subdue it. That fell to others after Caesar was murdered.

It is interesting maybe that Caesar was more than a little like Trump in his manner of overturning the previous semi democratic system:

He was a popularis, which means that he was a man of the people - in terms of the fact that he got the popular vote. He didn't necessarily care about the people, but he used his influence over them to get their vote, mainly by giving money and games that they enjoyed a lot.
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The parallels between a declining of democracy in the USA and the fall of the Roman Republic into dictatorship are interesting. Human nature doesn't change much, even over millennia. Powerful popular rulers do become unhinged and seize more power to themselves. There are many modern day examples if you look back over a century. Lots in Europe, but also Putin. He came to power in 2000 and was constitutionally only allowed two four year terms. He is still there 25 years later.

More about the above here: https://www.bambasbat.com/p/julius-caesar-not-roman-emperor




  • Roman Republic (509-27 BC):
    This period was characterized by elected magistrates and a Senate, with occasional appointments of dictators during times of crisis.

  • Roman Empire (27 BC – 476 AD):
    This era began with Octavian, who became the first Roman Emperor, taking the name Augustus. Octavian was Caesar's great nephew, whom he adopted as a son. Octavian (Augustus) was Caesar's heir.

  • The Principate:
    While the outward facade of the Republic was maintained, Augustus consolidated autocratic power, establishing the Principate, where the emperor held significant influence.

  • Imperial Cult:
    The reign of Augustus initiated the development of an imperial cult, solidifying the emperor's authority and influence.
 
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so nailing that man to cross made no difference then oh no ;) id feed him to a lion try come back from that pile of crap :D
 

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I watched the last leg of Simon Reeves' Scandinavia yesterday.
If you don't have much time, skip to 33 minutes time mark.
It's fascinating how the Danes do windfarms. Vestas new venture is gigantic floating windmills to put out to sea where the sea floor is much more than 60M below. The potential is absolutely enormous. The platforms make directly hydrogen.
 

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I watched the last leg of Simon Reeves' Scandinavia yesterday.
If you don't have much time, skip to 33 minutes time mark.
It's fascinating how the Danes do windfarms. Vestas new venture is gigantic floating windmills to put out to sea where the sea floor is much more than 60M below. The potential is absolutely enormous. The platforms make directly hydrogen.
BBC documentaries are completely fake. Remember David Attenborough blaming climate change for the walruses jumping off the cliff, when they had made exactly the same documentary about 40 years before, where they explained that it was because of over-population and had been happening regularly throughout history.
 
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BBC documentaries are completely fake.
Simon Reeves is just a nice enough bloke, he goes places and talks to people. He didn't go to uni or anything like that. Why don't you listen just 1 minute to the guy he interviewed, who invented the first commercial modern wind turbine? He is just an engineer, not gone to any fancy uni. He reminds me of you actually, you may like what he did. Go to 37 minutes.
 

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Simon Reeves is just a nice enough bloke, he goes places and talks to people. He didn't go to uni or anything like that. Why don't you listen just 1 minute to the guy he interviewed, who invented the first commercial modern wind turbine? He is just an engineer, not gone to any fancy uni. He reminds me of you actually, you may like what he did. Go to 37 minutes.
He gets his orders from his bosses and does what they tell him.
 

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He gets his orders from his bosses and does what they tell him.
You don't have to listen to reeves. Listen to the Danish engineer that reeves interviewed.
 

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You don't have to listen to reeves. Listen to the Danish engineer that reeves interviewed.
The problem is that the BBC edit things, so you don't necessarily get what he was saying. If he said something that doesn't fit their narrative, they'd have cut it out. Remember this one, where all the MSM, including the BBC, cut his quote to mislead the public. During the interview that contained the famous quote, he explicitly condemned the far right extremists, but they all cut that bit out and ran with the story that he supported them.
 
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Simon Reeves is just a nice enough bloke, he goes places and talks to people. He didn't go to uni or anything like that. Why don't you listen just 1 minute to the guy he interviewed, who invented the first commercial modern wind turbine? He is just an engineer, not gone to any fancy uni. He reminds me of you actually, you may like what he did. Go to 37 minutes.
I watched a programme Reeves did about the River Eden that runs into Carlisle, which had flooded twice very badly in 2005 and again in 2015 and drowned a significant part of Carlisle. The worst flooding was during the time of the named storm, Desmond - which was in itself an exceptional storm event and may quite likely have reached that severity because warmer air and ocean temperatures led to greater water vapour load in the air. This is basic physics and is unarguable except among the half mad.

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Anyway - back to Reeves - there had been a lot of talk about how the floods were purely a feature of 'global warming', but Reeves talked to a number of people who demonstrated that the Carlisle flooding was as much the result of the fact that the tributaries of the river had been significantly re-engineered to drain marshland further upstream.

In short the upper reaches which had been reed beds and water meadows in wet times, and used to store vast quantities of flood water, releasing it slowly into the Eden, had been confined to canal channels with embankments so that a few hundred sheep could make a few quid for some farmers. Reeves made it perfectly clear that the result of this meddling with the natural river flood plains upstream had the result of causing millions of pounds worth of property damage in the city of Carlisle and massive upset and disruption to a large number of people. All the water from the fells in the Pennines just surged straight into the city.

Of course, some people would never know this, because they are completely inflexible about what sources are considered worthwhile. There is plenty to object to about some of the BBC output, but anyone who thinks it is all the same, or who could make the ridiculous remark made above about BBC documentaries, is living in Fox News Cloud Cuckoo Land. This is probably why the same sort of folk don't see Trump for who he is.

Personally, I make it my business to scan the Guardian and the Spectator every day to see what is being said. These take VERY different perspectives on events and the world in general. I find plenty to object to in both of them, but also things I hundred percent agree with in them too.

If you make a religion out of dismissing whole sections of the press and media, and turning your back on professional media, you are doing yourself no favours. The vast majority of so called, 'Alternative Media' are partial, crackpot and fanatic led drivel.

This is why we have a nutcase in the White House blaming Zelenskii for starting a war with Russia. This is the biggest load of old cr ap I ever heard, but is well supported by 'alternative media', largely because the ill educated buffoons who produce it, are easy prey to Putin's sophisticated misinformation machine. Russian military strategy has long espoused the doctrine of ' Maskirovka' which means misinformation. Putin lies, continually and we have all heard Trump repeating the same lies.

I saw a fact check on the farce he laid on for the South African President the other day.

There have been murders of white farmers, but South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world and white farmers tragic murders, have been a tiny part of the generalised murder fest which is going on there.

Some of the footage that Tump laid on was completely misinterpreted. He showed a road lined with white crosses which he claimed were the graves of white farmers. In fact, the crosses were nothing of the kind, but had been put there in protest at the murder of a couple called Glen and Vida Rafferty, all along a road to draw attention to the angry feelings of their neighbours after the couple were ambushed and murdered in a robbery. Trump said these were the graves of thousands of white farmers... WHY IS HE SO BADLY ADVISED? Most likely, because he isn't fussy where his information comes from as long as it massages his own prejudices.
 
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Wow, how many years of copper, nickel, lithium production to achieve Net Zero Sense? Good luck with that (using ur own money of course, not the publics) Ha! :cool:
 

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The problem is that the BBC edit things, so you don't necessarily get what he was saying. If he said something that doesn't fit their narrative, they'd have cut it out. Remember this one, where all the MSM, including the BBC, cut his quote to mislead the public. During the interview that contained the famous quote, he explicitly condemned the far right extremists, but they all cut that bit out and ran with the story that he supported them.
The clue to who is right here is that Trump's reaction was condemned also by many Republicans. The violence was orchestrated by a large mob of far right extremists, Ku Klux Klan and white Nazis. It was that grouping which started violence. One of them was charged with Second Degree Murder after driving into a small counter protest and killing a woman, injuring 19 more.

What did Trump say? He condemned violence by "many sides".

This was a rally of white supremacists and Clan members. Where does the 'many sides' come in?

You don't see that?

It was only after Trump saw a bad reaction to his 'violence on many sides' remark from Republicans that he made another announcement.
 
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The clue to who is right here is that Trump's reaction was condemned also by many Republicans. The violence was orchestrated by a large mob of far right extremists, Ku Klux Klan and white Nazis. It was that grouping which started violence and which caused the death by a man who was charged with Second Degree Murder.

What did Trump say? He condemned violence by "many sides".

This was a rally of white supremacists and Clan members. Where does the 'many sides' come in? A small counter protest group were attacked by Nazi mobs and had a car driven into them which maimed 19 people and killed a girl....

You don't see that?

It was only after Trump saw a bad reaction to his 'violence on many sides' remark from Republicans that he made another announcement.
Do you know what's meant by the term RINO in relation to that?
 

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Do you know what's meant by the term RINO in relation to that?
Why not just write in English, then we don't all have to look up Internet meme like acronyms.
 

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Airport boss on millions in salary put phone on silent during airport fire coz he was "tired" after attending a function. Maybe he needs a permanent holiday? :)
 

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Airport boss on millions in salary put phone on silent during airport fire coz he was "tired" after attending a function. Maybe he needs a permanent holiday? :)
I used to listen to that channel a few years ago, but I soon realised it was full of cr ap and that Mike Graham was a moaning, carping ar se. The presenter who came either right before or after his slot was one Julia Hartley Brewer, an entitled, loud mouthed uber-posh bint, who about once every five minutes announced that she was the mother of a twelve year old girl, and then gave some personal opinion based on that fact. The idea of an alternative radio perspective soon wore VERY thin. Graham regularly showed a massive lack of understanding of the things he was pontificating about and I soon stopped listing to the channel. Some other presenters on there, were even worse. It was more or less low-brow, uneducated, carping and moaning, and not worth listening to.

Oh - and by the way - the way you spun that story, anyone would think the boss whose phone was on silent knew there was a fire, and turned off his phone. He didn't. It happened after he went to bed, and why should an airport manager have his phone on all night unless he is specifically in an on-call contract? It is not as if the guy who was on duty at the time could realistically have done anything different to what he did do - suspend operations. Do you think the boss should have turned up at the transformer fire with a bucket of water and a pair of wellies on? Nothing would have changed anything. What happened, happened.

The airport shut down because it could not safely sustain its operations, when a substantial part of its power supply was shut down. The people who were working that shift and managing the operation did exactly what they ought to have done. Listening to that miserable bint on Graham's show moaning about her four yeatr old boy's sadness at a flight cancellation (shades of Hartley- Brewer and her twelve year old daughter dragged into every paragraph) brought no light to the matter.

Talk Radio and Talk TV are a waste of electricity. Don't waste your time, is my advice. Go for a walk instead, then you won't turn into a bloated ar se like Mike Graham. He has put on about four stones since I last saw him.
 
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Do you know what's meant by the term RINO in relation to that?
You think a true Republican would not think it odd that Trump talks of violence on both sides when a neo Nazi, extremist rally descends into violence and ends up with a lunatic fanatic, driving into a crowd of people exercising their free speech right to protest against clan members and nazis preaching white supremacy memes?

I think the Republican Party is far better than you seem to think.

There are plenty who are concerned that their party has been taken over by Trump fanatics and people who think they can spin any lie for their own advancement. People like Pence and Liz Cheyney who put clear blue water between themselves and Trump's lie machine when he lost the election. And they are not alone.
 
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