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[MikelBikel]

cloud power = power cosmic off and on funny how the council still has near 20 11 year old knackerd inverters becouse the caps that smooth the voltage have ran out in there homes ready to explode and dont even clean them.

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In 2023, the total value of UK renewable energy subsidies was £2.2 billion. This includes support for various renewable technologies, including solar power, with subsidies per MWh (megawatt-hour) reaching £60 for solar. These subsidies are part of the UK's efforts to transition to a low-carbon energy system.

I like the point about the capacitors, I forgot them.
They do have a finite life, like the ones in our ebikes.
And a company will tend to use the cheapest?
Then when they go bang, will the insurance pay up?

 

[Woosh]

Wayhay, go to the seaside and bask in the reflection from the solar flaps. Get your tan in half the time, until there's a Storm, then woosh, they're gone!

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(They are nicknamed bord "Pianola" coz corporations and NGO's play them)

Why is a beach resort bothering with Solar?
1500 panels over 3.5sqkm for 800kW Max output (if).
(The domestic subsidy stops at 10panels)

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Kerching! €125,100, Mm, Why didn't they go for the full 1000kWp and €162,600? Maybe 800kW equals 1,000kWp at 80% efficiency

And I assume they must be on a Feed In Tariff?
"The current feed-in tariff rates in Ireland for solar Pinergy 25 cents per kWh
Energia and Flogas at 20 cents per kWh
Electric Ireland and SSE Airtricity around 19.5 cents per kWh
Bord Gáis provides 18.5 cents per kWh."
(Purevolt.ie I assume this is domestic rate)

And how will they Clean them? With a diesel powered Jeep, Generator and jet washer. With fresh water or salt? Anyway, the salt water sea spray will degrade them in no time

Do you know that UK government subsidises fossil fuels more than renewables?
Just ask ChatGPT.

Fossil Fuel Subsidies

• Support Since 2015: Between 2015 and 2023, fossil fuel producers in the UK received £20 billion more in government support compared to renewable energy producers. This support includes tax breaks and other financial incentives.

 

[Ghost1951]

Successive governments during my entire time in the UK since MT ignore the issue of legal immigration.
You know already that illegal immigration has only a small part in impacting the scarcity of resources. If you subtract those who given leave to stay (75% of those who came illegally), the number of strictly illegal immigrants is a very small proportion (2.5% of the total). Albeit those strictly illegals may absorb a little more resources than the rest, those illegals who don't work and fit the definition of spongers who come here to take advantage of the system represent even smaller than the 2.5% of total immigration. They can't get UC anyway. Blame the welfare state if you like, the reality is politicians are on a whole dishonest on the need of immigrants because there are so many jobs go begging.

Last year alone, 100,000 visas were issued to low paid care workers. Additionally, 80,000 visas were issued to their dependants. Most of them were said to benefit recipients.

But all that doesn't matter. Housing and housing costs are a desperate problem made ever worse by this merrygoround.

 

[AndyBike]

So - I did you the courtesy of writing you a detailed analysis of your Reform = Nazi claim and you entirely ignored it.

I explained the issue of the density of population in England and its impact on resources and you entirely ignored it.

No its not a case of that I ignored it, though mainly for its shortsightedness, in that across the demographic of the UK has risen substantially yes, but we do need immigration.
We have problems with the labour force, we have problems with an aging population, we DO have problems with a housing shortage and since brexit(caused by racism) money problems.

But I WILL NOT blame immigrants and Islam for the ills of this country, and while some issues have been caused by labour, and even the lib dems, the vast majority of our problems lies at the feet of a deeply corrupt conservative party politic.

Populism is a disease.

 

[AndyBike]

Wayhay, go to the seaside and bask in the reflection from the solar flaps. Get your tan in half the time, until there's a Storm, then woosh, they're gone!

Solar and other renewables arent the magic wand that will solve all our energy needs, but they do help and its a start till we can get more nuclear built.

 

[Woosh]

Last year alone, 100,000 visas were issued to low paid care workers. Additionally, 80,000 visas were issued to their dependants. Most of them were said to benefit recipients.

But all that doesn't matter. Housing and housing costs are a desperate problem made ever worse by this merrygoround.

There is only one possible solution, do the jobs that immigrants do for us.

 

[Ghost1951]

Populism is a disease.

The term 'Populism' is a slur invented by people who abhor DEMOCRACY and the needs of a part of the population they don't respect. Just break it down.

What does the word mean?

It means politics which reacts to what ordinary people want and need, rather than the kin d of politics which regards the ordinary people as some sort of smelly oiks who don't know what is good for them and need to be protected from themselves by politicos who 'know better', but consistently fk everything up for ordinary people.

This arrogant nonsense is not just a problem among so called 'progressive' British politicians - it has been a feature of western countries for a good while.

They exported the jobs of ordinary people and replaced them with nothing, or low paid insecure work.

They imported millions of migrants to suppress wages (which they certainly do and did) and then through shortage, priced ordinary people out of housing or at least into absolute penury in paying for housing which of course rose in price - doubling the cost in terms of proportion of income, whether it was it to buy or to rent.

Then surprise surprise, new political parties started to advocate for the ordinary 'displaced' and ignored people right across the west and the incumbent, established political parties came up with a new slur to beat the down again - the term 'Populism'.

Well here is the kicker - the people are voting right across the world for these new politicians and they are voting in numbers which scare the pants off the established parties. They refer to them as 'hard right' to try to scare people, but what have the ordinary folk to be scared of? They have already been shafted for decades by the parties they voted for, so they give their votes to the new lot. France, Germany, Netherlands and more - new parties are going to take over and the old politicians DESERVE to lose.


House prices in the UK since 1975 when I bought my first house, have risen from four times average income to nine times average income and rents have followed the trend. The ONLY reason for this is scarcity due to mass migration.

 

[Ghost1951]

There is only one possible solution, do the jobs that immigrants do for us.

A good start would be to pay the proper rate for the job and not impose disgusting conditions on the employee.

I know a woman who was a care worker. She was expected to work for minimum wage and drive extensively around Northumberland without being paid except for a paltry mileage allowance. She was supposed to drive twenty miles from her home to a client, spend half an hour getting her ready and then drive back again for half an hours pay and a forty mile allowance for petrol.

Who would tolerate that kind of exploitation?

Most of the jobs we can't fill are of that sort: Low wage, bad conditions and insecure work. People from the middle east and Africa might put up with that for a time long enough to get a foot in the door and hope to move on. No one else will do that work while it is easy to sign off work with depression - a condition which any ham actor can mimic so the GP consents to fill in the forms.

A country of more than seventy million people does not need mass migration. I have no problem with importing highly qualified people with skills we need. Such people are bound to be an asset. Mass migration of uneducated low skilled foreigners is a disaster. Leaving the border unguarded so anybody can turn up and know they will be able to stay here is an absolute crime against the population. Apart form all the ordinary disadvantages we are open to security problems. I wonder how the newly arrested Iranians got here?

Terror arrests came in context of raised warnings about Iran, with ongoing chaos in its own backyard

Eight men - including seven Iranians - have been arrested by the Metropolitan Police in two unconnected terrorism investigations. All are in police custody.

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[MikelBikel]

Dublin getting Power cuts coz the Data Centres take Priority.
Water shortages next?

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[Woosh]

A good start would be to pay the proper rate for the job and not impose disgusting conditions on the employee.

I know a woman who was a care worker. She was expected to work for minimum wage and drive extensively around Northumberland without being paid except for a paltry mileage allowance. She was supposed to drive twenty miles from her home to a client, spend half an hour getting her ready and then drive back again for half an hours pay and a forty mile allowance for petrol.

Who would tolerate that kind of exploitation?

Most of the jobs we can't fill are of that sort: Low wage, bad conditions and insecure work. People from the middle east and Africa might put up with that for a time long enough to get a foot in the door and hope to move on. No one else will do that work while it is easy to sign off work with depression - a condition which any ham actor can mimic so the GP consents to fill in the forms.

A country of more than seventy million people does not need mass migration. I have no problem with importing highly qualified people with skills we need. Such people are bound to be an asset. Mass migration of uneducated low skilled foreigners is a disaster. Leaving the border unguarded so anybody can turn up and know they will be able to stay here is an absolute crime against the population. Apart form all the ordinary disadvantages we are open to security problems. I wonder how the newly arrested Iranians got here?

Let's assume Starmer sets up a tent city in Cumbria for 50,000 illegal immigrants. He already has the rights to confine them there, as long as they are fed and kept healthy.
Would we have solved the housing crisis? Doctors appointments? More school places for children with special needs? Cheaper petrol? Fewer potholes? Pay less taxes? Of course none of them. We still have the same numbers of visas for students because our universities can't survive without, visas for carers because no matter how good the pay is, people don't want that job, visas for doctors and nurses, visas for bricklayers, plumbers, their families and so on. The same number of visas because the illegal immigrants are not allowed to work until they are given leave to remain. The problem of illegal immigrants is just a political football.

 

[MikelBikel]

Funny, and it's even about Electricity! ;-)

What Happens if You Connect a Battery to an Inverter without pre-charging the Capacitors?

If you have built a DIY Solar Generator, I'm sure you are familiar with how you use a resistor to pre-charge the capacitors in an inverter. But what if you d...

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[saneagle]

The truth about our energy supply? Is she talking sense? Does she know what she's talking about?

This video was made before the Spanish blackout!

 

[Woosh]

The truth about our energy supply? Is she talking sense? Does she know what she's talking about?

This video was made before the Spanish blackout!

Her presentation of the facts is incorrect. I am not a fan of ChatGPT but I find it a pretty useful tool to gather quickly reliable, verifiable data.
The price we pay for electricity and gas is based on margin pricing. That is the highest price paid to a supplier in the preceeding 6 months. Invariably, that's gas.
That of course is a good cause for celebration if you own shares in energy companies, regardless it's gas or renewables because the war in Ukraine has caused the price of gas to vary enormously. Face you get paid 1.9% profit, tail, you more than double your money. The role of subsidies is quite small, about 1p per kwH whether it's for renewables or gas.

 

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when we had the bathroom done the hole floor had to be ripped out so said as pipework there fit a shower that runs of the boiler to save us money on the electric as wanted to fit a 9kw shower and council point blank said no!

i said ill even pay for it no even the builder said only this council refuses to fit them as all others have no problem with them being fitted and even had one in the van

same with the solar panels they dont service or clean them and left to rot explode and catch fire.

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[Woosh]

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The Levelised Cost of Energy is about 5p per kWH (roughly hydro: 2p, onshore wind: 2p, solar: 2p, offshore wind: 5p, gas: 7p, nuclear: 12p) but you can see we pay a lot more than our neighbours like Sweden for energy, but why?

1. Sweden has communal heating. Swedes spend less on electricity.
2. We use a lot of gas and offshore wind. The price has been rocked by the Ukraine war
3. We have high network costs. Our national grid is too old and expensive to maintain and upgrade
4. we have a free energy market, the energy companies make more profit.
5. We pay VAT on energy.

 

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income tax pays for the grid.

EDF UK, profit: 2019. 650 million 2023. 8.3 BILLION We're being taken for a ride.

council tax is also fraud they send demands for payment same as bbc ask them for a invoice to pay there corporation registered on company's house and dunn and brad street.

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EDF Energy's electricity rates in the South West region, like elsewhere in the UK, are subject to the energy price cap set by Ofgem. For the period of April 1st to June 30th, 2025, the standard variable tariff (default tariff) is expected to have an average unit rate of 27.03 pence per kWh and a daily standing charge of 53.80 pence

3 bed house over the road same as mine bar 11 year old inverter and pre pay meter are pumping 160 a month in it atm.

forcing heat pumps on ppl like this will mean they will freeze to death but thats the plan or the inverter burns the house down

 

[Ghost1951]

The truth about our energy supply? Is she talking sense? Does she know what she's talking about?

This video was made before the Spanish blackout!

A REALLY important video and well worth the time to watch it.

Ed Miliband needs to be tied to a chair and made to listen to this woman. So does Woosh - especially around minute 32 -37 because like Miliband (who knows NOTHING about how the power really gets to the users) Woosh argues we can get rid of gas in the short term. We absolutely can't.

Come to think of it - all lefties need to think about what she said about 'work' near the very end. This woman is a great find and I am certainly going to ferret out her written works and any videos she has published.

Probably the main reason we have the most expensive power in the EU is the ridiculous price fixing process where all generating companies offer up a price per megawatt they are prepared to accept and the Grid accepts their bids when factoring in its calculations about how much demand it expects and needs to supply, but in the end something completely mad happens - ALL generators are paid the same price as the highest bidder that was needed to meet the demand. The absolutely bonkers thing is that a company which might only have contributed a tiny amount of power, sets the price paid to all the generators. That is completely nuts, and I can't understand how it was ever allowed to happen.

 

[Ghost1951]

Her presentation of the facts is incorrect. I am not a fan of ChatGPT but I find it a pretty useful tool to gather quickly reliable, verifiable data.
The price we pay for electricity and gas is based on margin pricing. That is the highest price paid to a supplier in the preceeding 6 months. Invariably, that's gas.
That of course is a good cause for celebration if you own shares in energy companies, regardless it's gas or renewables because the war in Ukraine has caused the price of gas to vary enormously. Face you get paid 1.9% profit, tail, you more than double your money. The role of subsidies is quite small, about 1p per kwH whether it's for renewables or gas.

Oh yeah - you know better than Katherine Porter who has spent most of her adult life working on this area.

Pull the other one old chap. I know who I believe.

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