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Intense Med Sea heatwave raises fears for marine life

A massive decline in migratory fish populations
If you love to fish, care about nature, or both, you should be worried

'Pretty drastic' - Irish salmon population down by 90%
 

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There's a great tool here (from 2012) allows you to post your own temperature reconstruction, you can choose adjusted or unadjusted data, urban, semi rural or rural stations and area of influence (as in reality data from stations within 1200km of each other are highly correlated)

Could probably get one of the AI tools to fully automate it all

Instead of parroting regurgitated nonsense talking points you can do your own reconstruction and see for yourself (for instance just use rural stations, unadjusted data, 1200km area of influence and it calculates a slightly higher rate of warming than NASA or Hadcru)

 
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There's a great tool here (from 2012) allows you to post your own temperature reconstruction, you can choose adjusted or unadjusted data, urban, semi rural or rural stations and area of influence (as in reality data from stations within 1200km of each other are highly correlated)

Could probably get one of the AI tools to fully automate it all

Instead of parroting regurgitated nonsense talking points you can do your own reconstruction and see for yourself (for instance just use rural stations, unadjusted data, 1200km area of influence and it calculates a slightly higher rate of warming than NASA or Hadcru)

You don't need to do anything like that. I use my eyes my brain and my skin to determine the difference. I have over 70 years of real data that indicate to me that you get hot summers, cold summers, cold winters and warm winters, but overall no significant change during that time. Likewise the sea level. I fished the Southend seafront a lot when I was a kid. Sometimes, the sea cam very high up the sea-wall. When I see it today, if anything, it doesn't come up as far as I've seen it before. This data wasn't paid for by anyone nor any organisation. It's truly independent and consistent.
 
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You don't need to do anything like that. I use my eyes my brain and my skin to determine the difference. I have over 70 years of real data that indicate to me that you get hot summers, cold summers, cold winters and warm winters, but overall no significant change during that time. Likewise the sea level. I fished the Southend seafront a lot when I was a kid. Sometimes, the sea cam very high up the sea-wall. When I see it today, if anything, it doesn't come up as far as I've seen it before. This data wasn't paid for by anyone nor any organisation. It's truly independent and consistent.
You can ride your bike from Southend seafront to Southchurch park in less than 5 minutes. The temperature difference can be 4-5 Celsius in the afternoon atm. Which place is representative of the town? It goes to show that personal perception is not a good enough representation of facts. Fundamentally, those who don't believe in global warming also don't believe that concentration of CO2 has anything to do with global warming regardless of how well established the scientific proofs all the way up to 2021 Novel Prize in physics
 

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You can ride your bike from Southend seafront to Southchurch park in less than 5 minutes. The temperature difference can be 4-5 Celsius in the afternoon atm. Which place is representative of the town? It goes to show that personal perception is not a good enough representation of facts. Fundamentally, those who don't believe in global warming also don't believe that concentration of CO2 has anything to do with global warming regardless of how well established the scientific proofs all the way up to 2021 Novel Prize in physics
Global warming was invented by politicians, not scientists. Scientists work for and get paid for politicians and big corporations with financial interests. they can produce whatever data is needed to tell whatever story their paymasters want. This is the reason why it's not possible to get trusworthy data from the internet. The only thing you can trust is your own experience unless you have been collecting your own data.
 

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Global warming was invented by politicians, not scientists. Scientists work for and get paid for politicians and big corporations with financial interests. they can produce whatever data is needed to tell whatever story their paymasters want. This is the reason why it's not possible to get trusworthy data from the internet. The only thing you can trust is your own experience unless you have been collecting your own data.
I didn’t dispute that your memory is not like what chatGPT made out of the Web. I am saying that the scientific proofs that CO2 is responsible for warming up our lower atmosphere are very well established and have been validated since the 80s that the 2021 Nobel prize of physics was given to a meteologist for his work on modelling the fluid dynamics of our atmosphere, leading to other models that suggest global warming is real, whichever party is in the WH. Higher concentration of CO2 increases the temperature of the lower atmosphere and lowers the temperature of the troposphere.
 

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I didn’t dispute that your memory is not like what chatGPT made out of the Web. I am saying that the scientific proofs that CO2 is responsible for warming up our lower atmosphere are very well established and have been validated since the 80s that the 2021 Nobel prize of physics was given to a meteologist for his work on modelling the fluid dynamics of our atmosphere, leading to other models that suggest global warming is real, whichever party is in the WH. Higher concentration of CO2 increases the temperature of the lower atmosphere and lowers the temperature of the troposphere.
Obama got the Nobel prize for peace virtually as soon as he got elected. What did he ever do for peace?

You get a Nobel prize when you do something useful for whoever's running the world. If someone got one for their work on the weather, they're work is probably fake.
 
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Obama got the Nobel prize for peace virtually as soon as he got elected. What did he ever do for peace?

You get a Nobel prize when you do something useful for whoever's running the world. If someone got one for their work on the weather, they're work is probably fake.
Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for "his efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples". Trump got nominated by Netanyahu for the 2026 Peace Prize for nothing good other than supporting Netanyahu.

Professor Manabe was surprised when he got chosen but his work over 6 decades were well known and deserving.

 

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Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for "his efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples". Trump got nominated by Netanyahu for the 2026 Peace Prize for nothing good other than supporting Netanyahu.

Professor Manabe was surprised when he got chosen but his work over 6 decades were well known and deserving.

Yeah, Obama deported about 3million from the US. Probably did a lot for peace.. in the US :cool:

His 20,000 bomb "peace" efforts elsewhere seem to be more.. controversial? :D

 

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Yeah, Obama deported about 3million from the US. Probably did a lot for peace.. in the US
I did not agree with the idea that Obama should win the Peace Prize, I sarcastically put the reason in double quotes. Still, now that obama was given it, I wonder if it should be given to trump. The reason is that could inspire him to see the good in other countries.
 

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Irish Parliament has Power Cut in middle of "debate", hehe.
They got a taste of 'Net zero' energy..
And the productivity, of the few there, went up.
Let’s just leave them unplugged, and see how they fare?
 

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Intense Med Sea heatwave raises fears for marine life

A massive decline in migratory fish populations
If you love to fish, care about nature, or both, you should be worried

'Pretty drastic' - Irish salmon population down by 90%
It's called POACHING..
and Factory Trawler Overfishing