Prices of the electricity we use to charge

saneagle

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Political propaganda has no place on an electric bike forum. Ever since it was allowed in the Brexit thread, it's been driving away forum members. I'm no snowflake. It neither scares me nor influences me in any way other than that it annoys me that it's interfering with my hobby. I hate politics and propaganda. It brings out the worst in me, so I'll go wherever I'm not exposed to it so I don't have to worry about my own bad behavior.
 

MikelBikel

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When Swiping Supplants Scissors: The Hidden Cost of Touchscreens — and how Designers Can Help
"A recent survey by Education Week found that 77 percent of educators reported young students having greater difficulties handling pencils, pens, and scissors. In comparison, 69 percent noted increased struggles with tying shoes compared to five years ago."
Along with worse eyesight staring at screens?
"High tech means low manual skills", who would've thunk.
I've just bought my first pair of Sketchers without laces..
Maybe first sign of second childhood? Hehe :D
 

flecc

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Forum admin have to decide whether they would rather be a forum for promoting woke and political propaganda or have me participating in stuff about electric bikes. They're not going to have both. Today is their last chance to decide. It's their forum. They can do whatever they want, just the same as I can do whatever I want.
I can see how you can ignore a particular member, but how do you ignore a thread?

It's not possible to ignore a thread, but when a thread goes seriously off subject like this one, members can ask Admin to take one of the two following actions to ensure it no longer shows up in "Latest Forum Posts" :

1) Move the thread to the "General Chat" forum which is specifically for non electric bike related subjects.

or

2) Lock the thread to ensure no further posts to kill it off, since it no longer has the intended useful purpose.

N.B. If you want Admin to take note of this post, click the Report icon at its foot.
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flecc

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Political propaganda has no place on an electric bike forum. Ever since it was allowed in the Brexit thread, it's been driving away forum members.
The Brexit Thread is not in an electric bike forum. It's where I took good care to place it:

General Chat
Anything that is not electric bike related.

Because total posting traffic is important to any website's survival, many specialist subject websites have an off-subject forum like this, easily avoided for those only interested in the site's main subject.
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Woosh

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Ever since it was allowed in the Brexit thread, it's been driving away forum members.
The reason is not it. I reckon the drop in number of new threads is caused by the arrival of Boris bikes, the e-scooters, the increased popularity of amazon and ebay platforms.
I am in Paris at the moment, e-bikes of all types are extremely popular. I have never seen so many cargo bikes of all shapes in a city and yet, the ebike forum in France is even less popular than this one.
Class L1e e-bike insurance is pretty cheap, less than £10 a month, coupled with incredibly simple formality to get on the road so you see plenty of 2000W electric motorbikes here. That is in total contrast to my seaside town where e-bikes are usually of the 250W types.
The mayor of Paris has reduced progressively the amount of lanes for cars in favour of cycle lanes. One bad consequence of this policy is a large number of streets become one way, making the car's stanav pretty useless. Driving in inner Paris is about same as in London, though finding on street parking is easier.
 
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sjpt

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The mayor of Paris has reduced progressively the amount of lanes for cars in favour of cycle lanes. One bad consequence of this policy is a large number of streets become one way, making the car's stanav pretty useless.
I would have thought that as long as the maps are kept up to date the increase in one way streets would make the satnav more useful then ever. Despite some peculiarities Google Maps seems to keep details like that pretty up to date, at least where the authorities do their bit to inform them.
 

guerney

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I would have thought that as long as the maps are kept up to date the increase in one way streets would make the satnav more useful then ever. Despite some peculiarities Google Maps seems to keep details like that pretty up to date, at least where the authorities do their bit to inform them.
Nav apps have sent me the wrong way up one way streets. I've tried all the free ones and a few of the pay fors. Google Maps is more up to date than anything else I've tried. 'Tis peculiar though. If I had my tiny Sony VAIO P Windows/Linux laptop mounted on the handlebars (it has GPS and A-GPS), Google Maps would provide excellent navigation for cycling. Unfortunately, route dragging functionality by mouse isn't possible on phones and tablets, even in "Desktop" view. By "route dragging" I mean defining A and B of a journey, and dragging the route, pinning parts to meander the route with clicks to suit, with Google automatically disallowing unsuitable sections because they're one way or unsuitable for bicycles for whatever reason. I use other apps adding waypoints to make routes for mobile device use, using the route planned using Google Maps as a reference, but I wish the mobile versions of Google Maps would work the same as on PC. Very occasionally the mobile version will allow route dragging by finger at some level of zoom (but not pinning), what exact level of zoom that is, I haven't yet determined.
 
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Woosh

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I would have thought that as long as the maps are kept up to date the increase in one way streets would make the satnav more useful then ever. Despite some peculiarities Google Maps seems to keep details like that pretty up to date, at least where the authorities do their bit to inform them.
Google Maps is better than any car satnav, no doubt about that, but it still can't beat local knowledge. Paris is full of little streets, more often than not, they fan out at all weird and wonderful angles and do not form a grid. On top of that, traffic is diverted when you have market days. Where I am, I have Pere Lachaise, Popincourt, Charonne, Belleville and Bastille (Thursdays and Sundays).
 

guerney

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Highly dangerous. The article combined the benefits of cryptos with those of blockchain without much of a second thought. Benefits of blockchain are well demonstrated but cryptos? To me, it's still a no. Cryptos are still ponzi schemes. Very much appreciated by those who want to keep their deals outside normal legal protections.
There are plenty of real life stories where even IT specialists got their crypto wallets stolen.
The above article is behind paywall but if you are interested, you can read here:
Crypto''s big bang will revolutionise finance
Use many wallets? I knew someone who sold everything he owned to buy £17k of Bitcoin through a Swiss bank during lockdown, and now his wild sowing of oats across SE Asia is being funded by it's rising value. Simply sells off a bit every now and again, fathers another kid or two, moves onto another country.
 

Woosh

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Use many wallets? I knew someone who sold everything he owned to buy £17k of Bitcoin through a Swiss bank during lockdown, and now his wild sowing of oats across SE Asia is being funded by it's rising value. Simply sells off a bit every now and again, fathers another kid or two, moves onto another country.
Good luck to him.
Bitcoin has had a spectacular rise but it did have a big fall before end of 2022 to beginning of 2023.
 

guerney

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Good luck to him.
Bitcoin has had a spectacular rise but it did have a big fall before end of 2022 to beginning of 2023.
He's a digital nomad musician, earns money through the falls. He may have been killed and eaten by locals.

When profitable through legitimisation, I'm going to turn my business electricity bill into anonymous tax free gains by mining ETH using my new AI PC when it's not pretending I to predict market crashes. Multiple wallets to spread hack risk, convert into cash at non-tracking Bitcoin cashpoints in Romania while hoping not to get mugged killed and eaten by locals there. I will of course then go on the run, fathering multitudes of anklebiters everywhere I go like Elon Musk. Child support will never take me alive. The fang faced orange gene will never die MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!.
 
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lenny

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Why Britain pays more for electricity
While policies designed to encourage decarbonisation have added to electricity prices, this effect is dwarfed by the impact of higher gas prices.

Ukraine-Russia war latest: Moscow responds to Trump’s new ceasefire deadline after deadly strikes
 

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ECIU: Winter bills will be 55% higher than pre-crisis
With the energy price cap rising today (1 October), the latest analysis from energy and climate think tank the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (ECIU) paints a grim picture of the UK’s energy bills over winter.
 

lenny

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Octopus Energy reduces monthly bills to £0 for 10 years 'guaranteed'
"The scheme is being run in tandem with housing developers. A house built with renewable energy items including solar panels, a heat pump, battery storage and electric heating, will qualify for the Octopus Zero Bills scheme, using the renewable energy sources on the property to power the home instead. "
 
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Tony1951

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You're driving people away from the forum. Since you started that, the active members have gone down and down. Post interesting and unbiased stuff instead. I'll give it another week to change, then I'm gone too. Try a few threads about why everyone should wear a helmet, why hub-motors are best or Why the speed limit should be changed if you want some interactions:
Yes !

Screeds of identical Youtube videos posted every day by the same individual without any kind of comment about them. If you trouble to look at them, they are pretty much identical. WHY are they there?

When you open the thread it takes an interminable time to load - I'm not sure why. Perhaps my browser is caching the early part of the videos - I have no idea. The page freezes up, making the site a drag.

The same individual virtually never ever says anything of his own ideas - just spams the forum with insane numbers of identical videos.

In other threads we are presented with an utterly negative perspective of e-bikes: 'They are dangerous and will burn your house down and kill your family.' Day after day after day the same. A completely counter-productive view of e-bikes as far as the forum is concerned. I'd imagine it is intended that the forum attracts people. I'd say this kind of stuff more likely repels them.

Then we have the 'E-bikes are driven by bandits' thread, and they will all be seized and taken away by the police. Same pattern,. Same poster - multiple tedious accounts usually making the ridiculous claim that a 1kw motor (about 1.3HP if we are talking about the output) can propel the bike to sixty miles an hour. UTTER boll ox. It takes at least ten horse power to propel a light weight motor bike to sixty miles an hour. Lifting the rear wheel means the motor is working against no resistance and doing no work. Propelling a bicycle and rider is not the same.


Political propaganda has no place on an electric bike forum. Ever since it was allowed in the Brexit thread, it's been driving away forum members. I'm no snowflake. It neither scares me nor influences me in any way other than that it annoys me that it's interfering with my hobby. I hate politics and propaganda. It brings out the worst in me, so I'll go wherever I'm not exposed to it so I don't have to worry about my own bad behaviour.
I am sympathetic to your complaint even though when I was a posting member, I posted in this thread about political matters that bothered me. I was not posting propaganda though. They were opinions and were always supported with argument and evidence when available.

I did so because it seemed that this thread was for that purpose, or had morphed into it.

I stopped posting here because of two things. Probably to the relief of some.

One of the reasons you refer to above in connection to your own response - it brought out the worst in me and I was on occasions rude and abrasive and probably inconsiderate in some of my responses. I also used bad language.

The other was that when posting about the concern many people have about insurgent right of centre parties gaining ground all over the continent, I pointed out that their rising support stemmed from those in power in established parties having failed to represent the justified concerns of a mass of ordinary people and worse still, mocking those concerns.

The remarks are at around page 506 of this thread. My remarks were neither inflammatory, rude or wrong. That IS the reason we have Farage and Reform in the ascendant. The one time party of the working class has over the last forty years slowly and irretrievably lost touch with its working class roots. The Conservative Party likewise has ceased to be conservative. I made this point in a reasoned fashion and two members insulted me by calling me a fascist and a follower of Enoch Powel, and the youtube spammer posted pictures of Farage with a Hitler Moustache. I took the view, and continue in it that such stupid responses to an obvious factual assertion rendered it pointless to continue to interact with such people. If that seems arrogant - it is what I think. They had deliberately misread what was being said and resorted to ad hominem abuse.

The amusing thing is that I have been shown to be right on many of these opinions I expressed. This week Labour has been briefing that Angela Rayner has said pretty much the same point I made around page 506 in cabinet meetings ie Government had better start taking notice of people's concerns about the scale of migration both to stem the flow of people to Reform and also to prevent serious unrest.

On another topic - the grooming gangs - today the BBC has led with accusations of deep concern about the Rotherham scandal showing that Police were also abusing girls who were victims of the gangs. More and more cases are being investigated and the scale of abuse by Pakistani Muslim (bad Muslims for sure) abusers has barely yet been scratched at, even with large numbers already convicted. Most of the many hundreds of abusers reported by the girls concerned have never been prosecuted.

If Saneagle leaves here, the forum will be vastly diminished.

I say that not because I agree with many of his opinions. I certainly don't.

I say it because he systematically provides solutions and support to users founded on long term expert, professional experience.



By the way - just to report that my £255 Argos folder will tomorrow pass the one thousand miles of fault free riding milestone. The odometer that I fitted when I bought it, is now reading 995.6 miles.

It may be just about the weakest e-bike in the world, but it has never failed to do what it was designed to do and it has stood up to my riding very well. Aside from some grubby dirt being left on it by its neglectful owner, it even looks ok. Best money I ever spent, I'd say. The battery is fully up to the capacity it had when I got it last August too.
 
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