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stevebills

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I had a Magura throttle sent from Optibike and I paid £75 inc postage and
now I have another tax and duty from fed ex for £29.00 and should I pay it ?:confused:
 
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tillson

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I had a Magura throttle sent from Optibike and I paid £75 inc postage and
now I have another tax and duty from fed ex for £29.00 and should I pay it ?:confused:
I'm not sure what your options are. If you don't pay the tax, you won't be able to take receipt of your order and will probably lose the bulk of your £75.

You might have to put this one down to experience and pay the tax.
 

Trex 850

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Had that happen the first time I got some lipo packs from HK, basically, if you don't pay the tax, they hang on to the goods !!
I'm a lot more aware when buying goods from overseas now,,,,,,,
 

morphix

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I had a Magura throttle sent from Optibike and I paid £75 inc postage and
now I have another tax and duty from fed ex for £29.00 and should I pay it ?:confused:
You will often find on small import purchases that most of the charge goes to the courier as their "fee" for collecting tax..from experience I know DHL and Fedex both charge a £15 customs clearance/VAT deferment fee.

When importing goods you will sometimes get charged Duty (usually around 6.5% but varies depending on the class of goods) and then on top of the goods value, shipping and duty, you get charged 20% VAT (yes taxed on tax!)

Looking at your bill amount, it looks you haven't been charged Duty (or very little) and the charge is split between £15 VAT and the rest is the Fedex deferment charge. So could of been worse.

You can't really refuse to pay unfortunately as they will come after you.

Hope that's useful anyway.
 
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stevebills

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I got the throttle 2 weeks before the fed ex tax bill and I presume this is a vat bill collected by them and a £10 processing charge for sending me the bill wat a joke! Optibike should of sent it as a gift and valued at a £10
I can imagine anyone buying an Optibike from the usa for $12000 would get stung with a £1200.00 fed ex tax bill WOW :D
 
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morphix

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I get the throttle 2 weeks before the fed ex tax bill and I presume this is a vat bill collected by them and a £10 processing charge for sending me the bill wat a joke! Optibike should of sent it as a gift and valued at a £10
I can imagine anyone buying an Optibike from the usa for $12000 would get stung with a £1200.00 fed ex tax bill WOW :D
Yes you're right Steve it's a bummer to get hit with what is basically a 30% extra cost on your purchase. As you said, for small items like this the best thing to do is to ask the seller to mark it as a "gift" or "sample" of no commercial value, if they're willing.

It's quite ridiculous that the government on the one hand is trying to promote a green low-carbon economy as we are now legally locked into these unrealistic carbon emission reductions, yet they continue taxing at a staggering 30% the very thing which could be a major factor in achieving their aim, electric bikes and related parts! Talk about madness.
 

jerrysimon

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We should tax imports far more heavily in my opinion, if only to support UK manufacture and get us making things again.

I recently came across a nice quote "Young people in the UK should not only learn how to use new things, but also learn how to make them"

Regards

Jerry
 

morphix

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We should tax imports far more heavily in my opinion, if only to support UK manufacture and get us making things again.

I recently came across a nice quote "Young people in the UK should not only learn how to use new things, but also learn how to make them"

Regards

Jerry
I agree Jerry, but I think certain goods which promote a cleaner environment and economy and in which the UK doesn't have any real manufacturing presence, should be given special low-tax treatment. Also the ebike industry is still an emerging industry in the UK with many small businesses who build and sell bikes completely dependent on overseas manufacturers for parts and batteries. If the UK wants to start fostering more British-based manufacturers of ebikes and parts, batteries etc, they need to start providing government incentives and finance. We could lead the world in this regard with our engineering and technological excellence, if only the government stepped up and created the right environment.

Anyway it's much too nice a day to be sitting infront of screen, I've rescheduled my work for later and I've just charged my battery, so I'm off out for a long bike ride, temperatures are going to be approaching 20oC this afternoon so should be nice out. Get out on your bikes!
 
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stevebills

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We should tax imports far more heavily in my opinion, if only to support UK manufacture and get us making things again.

I recently came across a nice quote "Young people in the UK should not only learn how to use new things, but also learn how to make them"

Regards

Jerry
I can't see how that would work as most are lazy in the UK rather sit on the dole moaning and shop liftinging as a hobby round here anyway.. and we would charge more tax here if the tax went up abroad and all the big company's open factories in china like NIKE and Dyson so we dont get the jobs or the tax benefits anyway!

Companies move abroad to escape tax
More companies are moving abroad to escape the UK’s complicated tax regime and thats reality as we are RIPPOFF GREAT BRITAIN in the eyes of businesses who need to make a good profit without being strangled by taxes
I can't understand why they are taxed and Nat Ins for getting soemone off the dole its not a good incentive to employ somemone and I would cut staff who wouldn't unless u like paying taxes. :D
 
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morphix

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I can't see how that would work as most are lazy in the UK rather sit on the dole moaning and shop liftinging as a hobby round here anyway.. and we would charge more tax here if the tax went up abroad and all the big company's open factories in china like NIKE and Dyson so we dont get the jobs or the tax benefits anyway!

Companies move abroad to escape tax
More companies are moving abroad to escape the UK’s complicated tax regime and thats reality as we are RIPPOFF GREAT BRITAIN in the eyes of businesses who need to make a good profit without being stragled by taxes
Steve you have a point there..the whole business environment is screwed up in the UK, it pushes business overseas where taxes and manufacturing costs are lower. We either have to accept that reality and accept we can't compete with these overseas factories, or just reject the free open market economy system of trade and start fostering and protecting British manufacturing. I don't see how the two approaches can work together. In anycase, I definitely think ebikes is a special category and needs special preferential treatment as far as tax is concerned. It's good for everyone, the businesses in UK, the environment, end customers, and the industry as a whole.
 

TwoBikes

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A particular problem with ordering from US companies is their reluctance to use ordinary post to send stuff overseas. I looked into this and found that the cheapest rate to send 1kg from the US to the UK was $15, which is pretty good. However, if they use that service, they are not even allowed to ask where the package has gone if the UK recipient claims it has not turned up. The cheapest service for 1kg that includes tracking costs $45, which is often the cheapest option given on a US store's web site. But that's if they're prepared to use US Mail. I went to order some electrical connectors from a site today: the weight would have been well under 1kg, but the only overseas postage option was FedEx at $108! I cancelled.

Another point on the tax issue: if the sending company declares the value of the postage on the customs declaration, you pay duty and tax on that too. Also, companies are reluctant to under-declare the value of goods because if they go missing they will not be able to reclaim the full value from the carrier or their insurance company.
 

morphix

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A particular problem with ordering from US companies is their reluctance to use ordinary post to send stuff overseas. I looked into this and found that the cheapest rate to send 1kg from the US to the UK was $15, which is pretty good. However, if they use that service, they are not even allowed to ask where the package has gone if the UK recipient claims it has not turned up. The cheapest service for 1kg that includes tracking costs $45, which is often the cheapest option given on a US store's web site. But that's if they're prepared to use US Mail. I went to order some electrical connectors from a site today: the weight would have been well under 1kg, but the only overseas postage option was FedEx at $108! I cancelled.

Another point on the tax issue: if the sending company declares the value of the postage on the customs declaration, you pay duty and tax on that too. Also, companies are reluctant to under-declare the value of goods because if they go missing they will not be able to reclaim the full value from the carrier or their insurance company.
Totally agree, there's some great deals over the pond and the strength of the pound gives us a lot of buying power..But the thing which always kills any deal is the damn US shipping charges, I always wondered why they used UPS and other couriers over Airmail. Now I know why.
 

banbury frank

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Hi

I have done Business in the states for 10 years now

If you Mess with custom charges in or out off the US

Customs tobacco and FIREARMS Will put you out off Business and in a place Called a Penitentiary

Simple


Frank