Wisper 905 SE Sport for Sale

Blew it

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Danny-k

Danny,

You just made my head hurt....AGAIN!.

My Focus doesn't get a chance to break down, Since retiring eighteen months ago, I've only filled it up four times. Much prefer E-bikes these days.

By the way, I know where there are seven thousand, new, unsellable (?) Honda's. Their parked up on the Science Museums site on the old Wroughton airfield.

Don't get any ideas, I know one of the security guards up there, years ago we went to the same gym......he's HUGE!!!. And if that's not enough, his partner is the meanest, darkest GSD you've ever seen, goes by the name of SATAN (He's a push-over with a couple of gravy bones). The dog that is!.

All the best from me and him and everybody else (took Eddies advice and had a stiff drink (several)

G'night

Bob
 

eddieo

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True, but do you mean the annual reliability ones that have Ford in the bottom 10 every year and Honda & Toyota, in the top 10 every year? :p :)
But not comparable on cost...Fords can be had heavily discounted:)
 

the_killjoy

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The trouble I find with the focus and similar cars is reversing, the strengthened rear pillars being a pain in the *** in terms of visibility.
 

flecc

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The trouble I find with the focus and similar cars is reversing, the strengthened rear pillars being a pain in the *** in terms of visibility.
Common to most designs now, little wonder reversing sensors and cameras are so popular.
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Mussels

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Common to most designs now, little wonder reversing sensors and cameras are so popular.
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I had the reversing sensors on a hire car a while back, it went to a continuous tone with 3 feet left behind me. Nice idea but utterly useless in reality.
 

keithhazel

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I had the reversing sensors on a hire car a while back, it went to a continuous tone with 3 feet left behind me. Nice idea but utterly useless in reality.
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obviously set up for hire cars like that where they will go to any lengths to ensure you DONT bang into another car,my g/f who has them on the rear of her scoda are set up so that the first beeps start at about 4 feet and change the nearer she gets to something so you can work out how far away you are from it,however when reversing and turning in B&Q car park they never stopped her banging into a bollard with her front left wing..:eek: ..which is ironic because she is 5 foot 1 and originally never wanted them at the back and had asked for them to be fitted to the front...:(
 
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flecc

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I had the reversing sensors on a hire car a while back, it went to a continuous tone with 3 feet left behind me. Nice idea but utterly useless in reality.
Mine are very much better than that. The Quashqai ones are more important since it's rear visibility is little better than a closed back van.

Those on my little Chevvy Matiz are also set up perfectly for distance, but on that mini size car they are a joke really!

Maybe the manufacturers are getting better at it, my cars both being this year's and having three sound phases according to distance, slow beep, fast beep and continuous when very close.
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the_killjoy

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It is a case of secondary safety taking precedence over primary. At least with the older cars and thin door pillars (front& rear) you had good all round vision, even if they weren't so safe if you rolled it. But which accident was the most common; rolling the car or been half blind at a crossing or roundabout because of the fat door pillars.
 

flecc

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It is a case of secondary safety taking precedence over primary. At least with the older cars and thin door pillars (front& rear) you had good all round vision, even if they weren't so safe if you rolled it. But which accident was the most common; rolling the car or been half blind at a crossing or roundabout because of the fat door pillars.
Dead right Killjoy, primary safety all to often taking second place these days.

I think secondary safety priority is inevitable in today's societies where almost everybody expects to drive though, regardless of their natural abilities. Long gone are the days when nearly all drivers were enthusiasts who took great pride in their abilities and competence.
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frank9755

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I dislike fat door pillars too, but it has to be said that accident rates have come down steadily over the years, despite more traffic on the roads. I guess other things like anti-lock brakes and better tyres have made a difference (I was going to say 'made an impact' but just stopped myself in time!)
 

flecc

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it has to be said that accident rates have come down steadily over the years, despite more traffic on the roads.
Though the sheer weight of traffic has also made a big contribution to reduced accident rates, slowing traffic to a crawl frequently and the high incidence of getting stuck behind slow drivers also has some effect.
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