September 1, 200817 yr Well before I drove I thought that the people who said this were sexist rascists pigs, but now I have to say. 1. Very old people 2. Women 3. Asians 4. Young men Of course this is by no means saying that all are bad as I'm sure that most women and asians are very good drivers. Not sure about very old people though. When I had a motorbike I did a bit of research for a month so whenever I saw someone do something really stupid or driving really badly I'd wait for an opportunity to overtake them (giving wide birth obviously) and observe the driver. All of the drivers were in the categories above with the first 3 by far the worst offenders.
September 1, 200817 yr BMW (car) drivers definitely come high on the list. Many of them drive as if they think they are on a motorbike, accelerating hard and darting between lanes.
September 1, 200817 yr We all have our good and bad moments on the road - the law says we should drive perfectly (safety), all the time - yeh - . Have a read of this: Third Party Perception Then say (with your hand on your heart) - I'm not like that, never, ever. If you do, then your probably best described as someone who fails to tell the truth - all the time . PS: Worst drivers I find are lost holiday makers; drive very slowly, indicate left and turn right, just turn (with-out indicating), always in the wrong lane on the round-abouts and stop in the middle of the road because they have missed the turning. . Edited September 1, 200817 yr by Footie
September 1, 200817 yr I concur with Maestro and John to a fair extent, though not attributing the "worst" to all of each of those by any means. The Telgraph's reporting of Range Rover drivers as the worst reminds me of an old Range Rover joke: What's the difference between a Range Rover and a hedgehog? Answer: With a hedgehog the pricks are on the outside. (First person to tell me that was a Range Rover driver) . Edited September 1, 200817 yr by flecc
September 1, 200817 yr White van drivers. 2 very near misses for me with these jokers. Also agree with the BMW drivers and the 4x4 drivers John
September 1, 200817 yr Bus drivers I travel in bus lanes and on busy urban roads and I find that bus drivers are some of the worst culprits a) do not look in their off side rear mirror when setting off and so trap me and other cyclists who are passing them b) overtake cyclists and then immediatley brake sharply and stop at bus stops so blocking cyclists or trapping them between the bus and the kerb.
September 1, 200817 yr White van drivers. 2 very near misses for me with these jokers. Also agree with the BMW drivers and the 4x4 drivers John The one time I had an accident involving another vehicle was riding my Honda Step Compo along a street in Camden, during a blizzard. A royal mail van pulled out from a parking space in front of me. I went over the bonnet but managed not to bang my head (no helmet, naturally) - no harm done. The combination of the postie not paying attention and me squinting because of the snow wasn't a good one.
September 1, 200817 yr Anyone who overtakes me too slowly! I hate it when some smug (ooh look at me, Im driving safely) wally, comes alongside as if tomorrow will do. What happens when something appears from the other direction? Mr or Mrs "Safe Driver" couldnt give a toss about me, as they swing back to the left to make way for the other vehicle, leaving me on the kerb, or worse. When overtaking bikes, do it quickly and cleanly, not "safely". (a word that has been hijacked by morons who wants to bring the world to a standstill) Thats my rant for today Regards Mick
September 1, 200817 yr Range Rover and BMW drivers absolutely, and steer clear of any car that has been "pimped" too.
September 1, 200817 yr I think its is generally people who have never ridden a bike since they were about 5...People who have ridden a bike on the road tend to give you a wide berth and appreciate the problems....HGV drivers generally seem to be better than the rest..White van man,Range Rover,Sportscars and boy/girl racers tend to be complete t*ssers...
September 1, 200817 yr Author I travel in bus lanes and on busy urban roads and I find that bus drivers are some of the worst culprits a) do not look in their off side rear mirror when setting off and so trap me and other cyclists who are passing them b) overtake cyclists and then immediatley brake sharply and stop at bus stops so blocking cyclists or trapping them between the bus and the kerb. Yes I totally agree with you on bus drivers although the advantage is they are pretty easy to recognise but still a nuisance if not exactly dangerous. I do agree with pimped cars and cars reving their engines alot too, but again easy to spot and steer clear. I think I have most trouble with the list I gave because they often appear like any other car until the time they pull out on you without looking.
September 2, 200817 yr People who ride will always moan about drivers and drivers will always moan about cyclist getting in there way. get over it.
September 2, 200817 yr People who ride will always moan about drivers and drivers will always moan about cyclist getting in there way. get over it. Just as there will always be people posting in ill mannered ways, and others not happy about that? .
September 2, 200817 yr Just as there will always be people posting in ill mannered ways, and others not happy about that? . take it any way you like. I'm a cyclist myself and I have had my fair share on near misses and crashes on and off the road, some caused by myself pushing to hard or being taken out by cars/buses. But I have also been a driver and seen cyclists do some pretty stupid stuff. No one is prefect.
September 2, 200817 yr I'm a cyclist myself and I have had my fair share on near misses and crashes on and off the road, some caused by myself pushing to hard or being taken out by cars/buses. But I have also been a driver and seen cyclists do some pretty stupid stuff. I agree with that, being a driver, motorcyclist, cyclist and walker through most of my life. That's good for understanding of course. .
September 2, 200817 yr .... I'm a cyclist myself and I have had my fair share on near misses and crashes on and off the road, some caused by myself pushing to hard or being taken out by cars/buses .... If I'm honest I have to say that all my road accidents (5 in 27 years) (apart from one) have been my own fault. The one exception was when a medium sized dog decided to head butt the front wheel of my motorbike - sent me flying over the handlebars. That said, they have all been minor with damage only to my vehicle or myself. I've had a lot of near misses but because I'm always very aware of other road users (sometime almost telepathic) I seem to be able to predict when they are about to become a problem (always consider ALL road users as brain dead idiots) and watch out for the real numb-skulls. Fortunatly, for me it's usually some other poor road user that pays for their bad driving - and I've seen it happen . Edited September 2, 200817 yr by Footie
September 2, 200817 yr If I'm honest I have to say that all my road accidents (5 in 27 years) (apart from one) have been my own fault. The one exception was when a medium sized dog decided to head butt the front wheel of my motorbike - sent me flying over the handlebars. That said, they have all been minor with damage only to my vehicle or myself. I've had a lot of near misses but because I'm always very aware of other road users (sometime almost telepathic) I seem to be able to predict when they are about to become a problem (always consider ALL road users as brain dead idiots) and watch out for the real numb-skulls. Fortunatly, for me it's usually some other poor road user that pays for their bad driving - and I've seen it happen . Yup, in all honesty, me too... in 45 years & 200,000 miles i've had 5 serious mishaps, a couple were my fault, distracted & a mis-judgement. i won't gore you with the bory details, i have had some very close shaves, usually my own fault and failing to apply the primary safety principle, have also caused a few sweaty palms in motorists too, but after a very nasty incident 15 years ago, i now 'just totally ride the bike' assuming every moving object has no brain and is likely to move off in any direction,and i make sure i am looking where i am going and paying full attention.
September 3, 200817 yr People who ride will always moan about drivers and drivers will always moan about cyclist getting in there way. get over it. Maybe but drivers hate BMW drivers too. They are agressive and arrogant in the way they treat other road users. Tailgating is compulsary. This trend is so strong that my wife and i once got totally weirded out by a BMW driver who drove round the M25 behind us at a safe and respectable distance we coudlnt work out what his game was. I even remember there being a news story about police pulling over a BMW driver because he was driving safely and respectfully. They assumed the car was stolen.
September 3, 200817 yr One time, I had to drive a battered white company transit as my sole transport for 6 months. I drove like a complete tosser! It was the ultimate commuting machine, everyone gets out of your way!
September 4, 200817 yr One time, I had to drive a battered white company transit as my sole transport for 6 months. I drove like a complete tosser! It was the ultimate commuting machine, everyone gets out of your way! Haha, white van man. good stuff
September 4, 200817 yr Some Lorry drivers They seem to forget there back end doesn't always follow the same route as their front end and I have nearly come a cropper a couple of times on some bends. When I see/hear one behind me on the narrow bendy road that I travel too and from work on, I normally stop, pull right into the kerb and let them pass and then go on my merry way unsquished
September 5, 200817 yr Some Lorry drivers They seem to forget there back end doesn't always follow the same route as their front end and I have nearly come a cropper a couple of times on some bends. When I see/hear one behind me on the narrow bendy road that I travel too and from work on, I normally stop, pull right into the kerb and let them pass and then go on my merry way unsquished Solution. Sprit up to the rear, grab on and get a tow.
September 5, 200817 yr If you had to pass a cycling proficiency test before you could even apply for a driving licence I think it would help make the roads safer for cyclists. I still have my Gloucestershire County Council cycling proficiency badge from the 80s
September 5, 200817 yr Anybody wearing a hat and me. Got cought speeding the other day First time in 17 years but lukily got away with a speed awareness course so no points. BMW drivers are bad but old people are worse, many pass far too close. I have started using led flashers all the time and they help a lot even in daylight.
September 8, 200817 yr Solution. Sprit up to the rear, grab on and get a tow. LOL I will have to try that
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