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Stupidity of other road users
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Powabyke technical help
Hmmm! I don't think it is as simple as that, I would imagine:- We know the speed controller needs to see the wheel with the motor in turning before it will apply power to the motor. This is probably acheived by what we call hall effect sensors, which are semiconductors which can be turned on by close proximity to a magnet. Thus there will be one or more sensors in the hub which as the wheel rotates are turned on momentarily by a magnet, which is affixed to the hub, passing by. This generates in simple terms a pulse which is seen by the controller which then decides the bike is moving. The next hall effect sensor which works in the same fashion as the one in the hub is the one at the bottom bracket, which senses rotation of the pedals. The third is the actual throttle. So the speed controller will need to see pulses indicating a rotating wheel + at least one pulse indicating the rotation of the pedals + an open throttle, before it will attempt to power the motor. All this is probable done with some type of micro controller - a minature and simple pre-programmed computer. It could be done with discrete components but in these days not many people would follow that design route due to complexity and cost. So, to sum up, I think just connecting X to Y as you are indicating proves nothing, and may in fact do damage. If you have proved the integrity of all the interconnections, without detailed knowledge of electronics and circuit diagrams there is only one real solution - swapping out bits 'til you find the fault. But bear in mind if your Powabyke is like mine it won't do anything unless you rotate the front wheel at greater than I think 3.7mph, rotate the pedals and hold the thottle open, all at the same time! Quite difficult to acheive in the shed, but it can be done!
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Powabyke technical help
Well I would imagine the majority of the electronics is the PCB in the box behind the headstock of the bike, this is what I would call the speed controller, but it must also include the hall effect sensors in the motor, the sensor at the bottom bracket if you have a "pedelec" feature on your machine as I have on my 2008 Powabyke, and the twistgrip itself which may be resistive or hall effect - I don't know. The regulating elements on the PCB are almost certainly field effect transistors (FETs), and these are readily killed by many situations. But my experience of faultfinding anything electronic is first to be sure of dc conditions - in simple terms are the battery volts going where they should be, and are they of the correct voltage, secondly is the connectivity of all the elements of the system as it should be? Remember after some years there will be the possibility of corrosion in connectors and elsewhere, and fractures of wiring - possibly unseen inside the insulating sheath. There are two ways to faultfind, one by swapping bits, 1, the dumbo approach, and 2, by measuring things and trying to understand what isn't correct. 1. is possible if you have the bits, 2. if you have the circuit diags and can read them! But, take heart, a simple approach can often work, proving the old adage that bullshit baffles brains! Things changed after you fiddled. Could be you totalled the speed controller, maybe you disturbed a dodgy connection and now things are just different. Try to measure the continuity of all the wiring, look for signs of corrosion in connectors etc. Much of the wiring will be colour coded, so red at the twistgrip, (for example) would have continuity to the red at the other end of the twistgrip cable where it goes into the connector at the PCB. To do this you would need a simple multimeter on it's lowest resistance range, good connection = close to 000 reading, failing that you are stuck with solution 1. or 2.! If you fiddle more and fail then things are no worse, you could always take the whole plot to a dealer although the cost may often be more related to the dealers skill than the actual fault, remember he will want to make a bob on the job and may if unscrupulous pass the cost of his inefficient diagnosis on to you, as many car repairers do!
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Powabyke technical help
As an electronics engineer but not a Powabyke expert I'd be highly surprised if you haven't killed the speed controller, if you reversed the power supply polarity. It is possible to build protection into these units but is either costly or saps power a little.. I would reckon you won't fix it unfortunately without bits to swap, particularly if you can't get into diagnostic mode, which generally needs all the electronics to work to tell you anything useful. Of course I'm quite prepared to be disabused of these ideas by the helpful Mr Curran who is really you best bet for assistance!
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Raleigh select, anyone got a picture or info?
Hi Folks, I've been offered a freebee "Raleigh Select" by a mate, he has used it for retrieving free flight model planes at meetings around Britain, but the batteries have died and he has bought a new machine. A quick search on the internet shows it may be a museum piece, but I can't find any info or picture. Can anyone help? Andy
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Service agreements with electric bike retailers
Caused offence? None meant! Of course I didn't mean to cause offence Conal, and apologies to Moon if I did. I'm glad, Conal, your experience of brake wear is different from mine. I've been running ebikes for 4 years now, and have lost count of the number of times I've had to both adjust brakes and replace blocks. I'd say adjust every 200 miles and replace every 500 or so. I'm no porker either, weighing in at 13 st. However I do live in a hilly district and often touch 35mph downhill, so brake wear is high and frequent adjustment essential to maintain optimal performance. But. It is my experience that you are best on your own in practical terms when it comes to routine maintainance, but I guess that reflects the fact I live 10 miles from my dealer and don't drive. If the bike is busted or unrideable I can't get it to the dealer so I have to fix it myself! I haven't asked and the dealer hasn't offered, but a 20 mile round trip to adjust the brakes seems a bit daft! There is also the matter of trust. I'm sure most dealers are competant enough, but as an ex long circuit kart racer I'd rather be responsible for my own spannering, I've had no safety issues so far. It would be interesting to hear from a number of dealers to discover the normal response with regard to routine maintenance as opposed to major servicing which is a different issue. Perhaps a poll is in order?
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Service agreements with electric bike retailers
Routine maintenance Oh dear! Of course the brake cables are not coming loose! The brake blocks are wearing because the higher speed and weight of an electric bike imposes higher loads. I'm sorry Moon, but welcome to the world of people who need to know one end of a spanner from another! Of course you don't need to take the bike back to a dealer each time the brakes need adjusting. What next, get them to inflate the tyres and charge the battery? It sounds to me as if your dealer has categorised you as someone with no mechanical skills! I don't think you can expect to use an electric bike in the same way you would a modern car, just put petrol in and check the tyres once a year and leave the rest to a dealer service. It will need constant fiddling with to give its best performance. With regard to the brakes, adjust the cables until you get a comfortable amount of movement at the handlebar lever. Check by spinning the wheel that the brake blocks are not rubbing on the rim. If they rub one side it may be the brake needs centralising. There should be a screw on each brake arm which adjusts the force of the springs that push the brake arms away from the rim. Fiddle with these, small adjustments at a time until the brakes don't drag or bind.Keep an eye on the brake blocks. (The bits that rub on the rim), if they get a bit thin replace them. Of course it's reasonable for the dealer to charge for work, also for him to try to protect himself from incompetant home mechanics. It's up to you to prove yourself able to do basic maintenance!
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Powabyke Commuter Forks
Powabyke suspension forks geometry Hi, I've just got some suspension forks on my ally Powabyke commuter as I couldn't tolerate the pummeling my hands got from the rigid forks. I tend to suffer from arthritis and found my knuckles on both hands swelling. I suppose these suspension forks are bought in items, the geometry of the forks doesn't seem to match the frame. The bike was very stable on a smooth surface with the rigid forks, I felt reasonably safe at 42mph down a steep local hill. These new forks kick the front of the bike up by a fair bit, feels like a couple of inches at the bars. Normally that would increase the trail and rake of the forks putting the front wheel spindle further ahead of the axis of the steering head. That conventionally would increase stability and reduce turning ability but it doesn't feel like it! The bike does feel more remote and twitchy, I wonder if some other angles of the forks are different, perhaps a compensation with less trail? I shall try lowering the bars to put more weight on the front and see if things feel better, but that rather nullifies the idea of saving me knuckles! Rake is the angle of a line drawn through the steering head to the ground. Trail is the distance in front of this line of the front wheel spindle. Less rake and less Trail = less stability but quicker turning.
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15mph legal limit
Compare our worrys to this offering! Seen currently for sale on an internet auction site. It obviously would need to conform to the construction and use regulations, which it clearly doesn't, be registered, taxed and insured as a motor vehicle. I asked how I could register it and received the following reply. "I think everybody does the switch it off and peddle it routine when there’s trouble around if you know what i mean. Keep a rear right side mirror so you can see what’s coming behind you to switch off in time. Some say you can ride it like normal, others say you can’t; we could never get a straight answer from DVLA. That’s why we recommend you do your own investigation and reach a conclusion if you decide to use it on road as you will ultimately be responsible. Mind you in many other countries like America in most states a gas motorised bicycle has the same rights as a bicycle, this means no license no reg and tax required. Even in Europe under the European specification light moped not reg, tax or insurance is required I’m told. Many people do use them for private off road fun too and in this context the legality becomes irrelevant. Don’t hesitate to contact me if i can be of any further assistance. Hope that’s helped. " And we are concerned about a matter of a few Watts equating to a few miles an hour? We all know the police can't enforce 9/10ths of the legislation thay are presented with and can't understand. I obey the law, but sometimes I do wonder why, when every other idiot seems to get away with it! Picture attached.
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pedelecking:the musts and the musn´ts while riding them?
I think the safety requirements of ebiking are a subset - or perhaps even a superset of those required for motorcycling. Firstly observation, awareness of the surface you are riding on, which constantly changes. Gravel, leaves in autumn, sunken drains and potholes can all catch you out. even worse is any road feature than leaves a longditudinal ridge in the surface, the trenches dug by service companys which were probably level when first filled and have subsequently sunken can be difficult if deeper than 1cm or so. The front wheel, particularly on front wheel hub motors tracks the low part of the ridge and can't climb out, and down you go. Observation should also include traffic ahead, parked cars should be given the width of an open door as clearance, many a cyclist has been wiped out but a door suddenly flung open. Road junctions should be treated with caution, particularly those coming from in this country, the left. We don't loom large in other road users perception. Complex junctions, particularly roundabouts are best walked around unless you are particularly brave or stupid. If you have ever been t-boned by a car and been across the bonnet you'll find it rather unpleasant, I did and still carry the scars. I often mount the pavement before a large roundabout and if there are no pedestrians ride the pavement route round. This bit is not part on the motorcycling set! Wear easily seen clothing, at least a Sam Brown luminous belt or even a luminous waistcoat Pedestrians, particularly in this day of ipods etc, should be kept a sharp eye on. More than once I have had a teenager turn suddenly at right angles off the kerb without so much as a glance. They are worse in groups, seeming to think they are invincible, they even step out in front of cars! PLEASE observe traffic lights! It really p@?!!@ me off when I see a cyclist sail over a red light, commonly a pedestrian crossing as if it doesn't apply to them. It does the cause no good at all.
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Question re adjusting roller brakes and what kind of tyre valve is this please?
Roller brakes? I'mm sorry, but are they roller brakes? Look like disk brakes to me! Roller brakes are / were the old rod operated things on grandads ride to work Hercules! Am I out of touch?
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Broken spokes on Urban Mover rear wheel.
Hi. Dependant on the grade stainless can be brittle and subject to sudden breakage in shear, exactly the stress present at the spoke bend where it goes through the hub. It's fine in tension and compression. A few years ago there was a huge scandal when a manufacturer of stainless classic motor cycle components made some front wheel spindles from the wrong grade - it doesn't bear thinking about. You can get zinc plated steel spokes of the correct grade material made to order from Central Wheel Components , Central Wheel Components Limited. 01-625-462264. Best thing is to send them a couple of spokes as a sample, you'll probably find as the wheel is dished they are different lengths side to side. cost, including nipples was £44 plus post last time I ordered. I rebuilt my Currie rear wheel with their spokes after countless breakages, I used 12 guage, but had to drill out the holes in both rim and hub. Since then nothing has broken or shifted.
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falling off the bike.
Don't talk about falling off bikes! It's a funny thing, but you do get used to it! I hadn't fallen off a push bike since 1964 (and I was 18 and drunk) until I came to ebikes 4 years ago. Since then I've been down 4 times, three on the canal towpath. Just getting the front wheel cross-threaded on a ridge of mud running in the direction of travel did it each time, and fortunately I seem to bounce quite well. The other time was a bit silly, and I must tell the story - it contains lots of shouldn't do's! My wife and I had been out for lunch on the bikes, (no booze!), and were coming up the hill on the pavement. (I know, shouldn't, but it was a deserted 3pm and the pavement is 4 metres wide!). The hill is steep and my wife, riding her old Raleigh Misty was tired. I gave her some electric assistance by putting my hand on her back and giving the Currie full welly. (I know, shouldn't, but we are old and daft!). But! wife wobbled, handlebars touched, she came under me, I lost balance and fell against her and down we went! She was pinned under her bike, I was sandwiched between hers and mine! My left foot was stuck under the bike, it took some gymnastics to get it out, pull two bikes off my wife, who was laughing hysterically. Not very dignified for a man of 61 and a woman of 57! The final outcome was a couple of grazes for me, a bruised knee for my wife. She won't let me help her up hills any more.
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Nano/Tongxin motor "gearing" question.
Ah yes, windings, that is the most likely solution. Model Airplane motors come with differing windings to give different RPM for the same applied voltage, the lower rpm per volt motors giving more torque and turning larger props at lower revs. Same as the Tongxin does for larger diameter wheels, And the max speed must still be limited by the controller, but if the controllers are all the same it must be by current limiting, unless the controller has some complex algorithm to understand the motor it's connected to and set it's self up accordingly. With regard to the rating of the controller, both I have had have been updated to 15A in biro! The latest replacement from Tony Castles, although he assures me it has differently spec'd components inside looks the same as the one that fried. Doesn't exactly fill one with confidence.
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Spokes
Ping the spokes with a screwdriver. They should all give a bright note, if any spoke is loose or broken it will give a duller and flatter sound. Alternatively may be a bearing problem, possible dry. I've had similar noises from both bottom bracket and wheels when they need greasing and readjustment. Repack with high melting point grease, but be careful not to overtighten a cone bearing if your bike has them, leave the tiniest amount of play at the rim or end of crank if it's a bottom bracket problem.
Andy Day
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