May 23, 201213 yr You are really digging yourself a big hole. Im really trying to understand why you are so certain im a dealer/ supplier or at least in league with one. Thanks for making me so welcome and im really looking forward to the grovelling apology when you finally realise you are so wrong Take my advice garry......dont hold your breath Its just Eddie sometimes gets very carried away and forgets his manners, usually at full moon or in periods of prolonged hot weather Meanwhile......welcome to the forum and I hope you are very pleased with your new bike when you get it......and dont forget to post a review after you have given it a good try out ........lolol.....cannot wait for those posts ......... We are all usually very friendly and helpful on here.....honest Lynda
May 23, 201213 yr Stop playing games I never said you where a dealer. but you are recommending a poorly specified bike to the OP that you do not even posses. I have responded this way because YOU started getting personal when you did not like what I said. All I had done was to point out to OTHERS that this bike is exceptionally poor value, an unknown system, questionable design and better value elsewhere.. You might not like what I say but the evidence is there in the spec, so get over yourself and stop with all the fake indignation or this thread will decline further. as for manners Lynda you have a very self serving grasp on things...I suggest you read thread properly Edited May 23, 201213 yr by eddieo
May 23, 201213 yr And we all wondered why d8veh left Exactly......and as usual this thread started out nice and friendly......who exactly is making it decline .....hmmmm.......any ideas Eddie ??? Let it go now before you make it worse............how on earth can it be that difficult to accept other people not all sharing your opinions.....or heaven help them, having opinions of their own. Mind you, the weather forecast DID say there would be some thunderstorms following all this lovely hot weather Lynda
May 23, 201213 yr Never recommended any thing just said id tried one and decided it was the best choice for ME. As for rest its obviously all IYHO as have you even tried one? If not you are guilty of exactly what you are accusing me of. As i see it buying a bike is like buying a car/ motorcycle or such where the final product is more than the some of its parts. Stick all the best parts together and you dont necessarily get the best. Would be a boring old world if we all just looked at the stats and choose everything based on that ( for starters we would all suppprt man utd). Final choice should also include looking for that bit of soul
May 23, 201213 yr Lynda it is declining because I am not allowed to say what I think in peace, without being insulted and being attacked by you and your numpty mates......I will tell you something for nothing d8veh would probably agree with me re this bike, he is far from stupid Garry please get over yourself? its not all about you? my contribution was for the benefit of OP and others? so just leave me alone and we will get on great... I dont have to try one I have already explained why of no interest...much prefer Bosch bikes anyway and the BH Emotion Bosch bikes equally poorly specified against the competition.... So lets leave it there and put it down to a differing of views... Edited May 23, 201213 yr by eddieo
May 23, 201213 yr naysayers?lol You have some cheek..... That you are incapable of listening to simple mathematical logic when judging what is, and what is not good value in a bike, is pretty pathetic to be honest and seems very fishy No eddie...it started to decline with attitudes like this. And I would be really interested to hear your explanation of exactly what you mean by my " self serving grasp " on things.......I have re read this thread several times in sheer disbelief at how quickly you made it decline.......as per ..... Lynda
May 23, 201213 yr "Insulted and attacked by me and my numpty mates "...........oh.....you REALLY make me laugh you do I will try to remember I am a lady and refrain from saying anything else......the temptation is very strong though........believe you me......it would be better not to make me really angry..... its not a pretty sight. Lynda
May 23, 201213 yr No eddie...it started to decline with attitudes like this. And I would be really interested to hear your explanation of exactly what you mean by my " self serving grasp " on things.......I have re read this thread several times in sheer disbelief at how quickly you made it decline.......as per ..... Lynda chap insults me and you zone in on my reply...God you are a piece of work...where is that exclude button..anyone?
May 23, 201213 yr Garry please get over yourself? its not all about you? my contribution was for the benefit of OP and others? so just leave me alone and we will get on great... I dont have to try one I have already explained why of no interest...much prefer Bosch bikes anyway and the BH Emotion Bosch bikes equally poorly specified against the competition.... So lets leave it there and put it down to a differing of views... Yet according to you my opinion was for the benefit of ????. Just re read my first post and all i see is me saying i tried one liked it and ordered one. compared it to a bike I already owned said i tried others (none named) and this for ME was best option and suggested the OP goes to a dealer and tries one. As for not wanting to try one people can draw there own conclusions from that. I have absolutely no problems with you not agreeing with me. I do have a problem with you insulting my integrity and calling me "fishy and pathetic" feel free to reply to this how you like but unless the post is on topic you won't be getting another response from me as i have no desire or wish to get involved in a flame war.
May 24, 201213 yr Time to jump ship to Endless Sphere me thinks I do hope not and Im sorry if I have contributed to you feeling like that. I tried to diffuse a potentially worsening situation with some humour, which quite obviously didnt work.......must be losing my touch. Lynda
May 24, 201213 yr I do hope not and Im sorry if I have contributed to you feeling like that. I tried to diffuse a potentially worsening situation with some humour, which quite obviously didnt work.......must be losing my touch. Lynda Don't worry Lynda, my comment was not aimed at any individual in particular. It's a sad matter of fact, that threads are increasingly degenerating into nothing more than faceless pub brawls. d8veh told me some of his reasons for not contributing any more, and I am beginning to see his points of view. This forum needs to get back on track, the way it was when I first joined, and some members need to bite their tongues when replying. Guaranteed that half of the comments wouldn't be made if we were all sat in a room together. Most of us want facts, not fights
May 24, 201213 yr where is that exclude button..anyone? Eddie if, like me, you wish to avoid reading posts by those who aggravate you with intent, click the name, then profile and you will find the "Add to ignore list" facility. I have had a handful on my list for some time now and I find it makes the forum experience much nicer. None on my list ever contributed anything of interest to me anyway so I don't miss their input. Indalo
June 17, 201213 yr Hi All, Interesting thread! Heated to say the least. We sell the Neo from our shop in Penrith and I may be biased but If this bike is made with cheap components, then BH are miracle workers cause it's a great ride. I'm using it to commute daily and apart from an initial problem with the torque sensor which was easily sorted It has been a joy. It is particularly good at hill climbing and being a lazy cyclist I love this. The brakes are very crisp and the range is better than advertised for me. I get 27 miles on boost if it's not too windy with a little left over at 1 bar showing on the readout.(BH claim 30 on Eco) Yes we sell them and want people to buy, but in all honesty It's a great bike and I recommend trying one out at your nearest dealer.
June 17, 201213 yr Hi All, Interesting thread! Heated to say the least. We sell the Neo from our shop in Penrith and I may be biased but If this bike is made with cheap components, then BH are miracle workers cause it's a great ride. I'm using it to commute daily and apart from an initial problem with the torque sensor which was easily sorted It has been a joy. It is particularly good at hill climbing and being a lazy cyclist I love this. The brakes are very crisp and the range is better than advertised for me. I get 27 miles on boost if it's not too windy with a little left over at 1 bar showing on the readout.(BH claim 30 on Eco) Yes we sell them and want people to buy, but in all honesty It's a great bike and I recommend trying one out at your nearest dealer. I think that the ride quality depends on what you use the bike for. A couple of weeks ago, I had a ride on a really top spec bike (Non electric) and on the road could not detect any difference to any other bike I have ridden. This shows that either, (a) I am unsophisticated, or (b) there is no difference for a normal rider who is neither racing or off road. I do take Eddies point that the price of the bike should be less, if based on the quality of the components. But, the big question for me is just what do you get for paying a lot more for high end components? Are they really all that better or just 're-assuringly expensive?'
June 17, 201213 yr In that price range I think I would expect XT or 8 speed or even 11 speed Alfina (others do it) and a hell of a lot better shocks..........someone will be along soon saying I am missing the point and have no soul..... I would hope you would be able to tell the difference, XT are the nicest gears I have ever used. If you cant pointless spending the money. Edited June 17, 201213 yr by eddieo
July 21, 201213 yr Thought I would post my experience of the BH E-motion Neo Cross here.... my other half bought a Neo City and I bought the Neo Cross. The design of the bike's are fantastic and seem good quality but I'm afraid I've had a few problems that are frustrating me. Almost immediately (2nd or 3rd ride out) I had a pedal that started to make a loud clunk on each turn, that was speedily sorted by the dealer opening on a bank holiday to switch it over for me. No more problems for a few weeks until I started to notice that there was a noise like something was hitting the spokes, but there was nothing there. Never having heard this before it took me some time and another ride or two to suss out that it was the spokes. When I sussed this (we were out on a ride) and I checked them they were really really loose, so I found the nearest bike dealer to get them tightened. That was fine for another couple of rides, then I noticed that a spoke had broken. It's been back to the dealer this week to get that sorted with a new spoke, the rest tightened and the wheel realigned. Just done a 20 mile ride now, and the pedal has started clunking, the bearings are visibly coming out... and yes you've guessed it a spoke has just broken again! So at the moment I'm really frustrated with the bike and wondering if I've bought a lemon. The other halfs bike has been fine though... maybe I'm just unlucky! Edited July 21, 201213 yr by DaveS
July 21, 201213 yr along with the general poor specification for the money, the wheels are not a known "named" brand either, as you have discovered..I find it staggering that people pay top dollar for bikes with such a low specification. Just get seduced by the eye candy or sales talk..its beyond me.
July 21, 201213 yr along with the general poor specification for the money, the wheels are not a known "named" brand either, as you have discovered..I find it staggering that people pay top dollar for bikes with such a low specification. Just get seduced by the eye candy or sales talk..its beyond me. Well on the basis that I know nothing about bikes and my most expensive one was around £100 I was and still am at the bottom of the knowledge curve with regard to bikes. Two dealers independently recommended the BH Emotions both saying they were good quality, how am I to know anything different in a field I know nothing about??
July 21, 201213 yr quite easily...for a start don't believe salesman. buying a bike is a bit like comparing computers, its all about the componants. with a PC you just compare processor/video card/ HD etc.....same applys to bikes I dont know much either, but when this was mentioned I looked at spec and compared with 2 other bikes in same price range. The 2 others had £200 - 250 shocks (neo £45) and £180 + gear sets (neo £40) No need to look further really....
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