Instead of cracking jokes about a tragic event, lets go back to the original post and consider the cockpit security issue, which could, in my view be critical. The authorities will be aware of similar mysterious vanishings and tried to reconcile them with this event. Sensitive terrorism and security issues are hardly likely to be dispensed to the public, so basically we are been kept in the dark, irrespective of the fact that no wreckage has been found.

 

For further reading re cockpit security check this out:-

http://kcubbin.tripod.com/id34.html

I just can't understand how the Americans can't find it...their satelites are said to be able to read a numberplate,so surely they could spot the debris from this plane...

For spy sats to catch that kind on concentrated detail visual the spy stats have to be focused on that particular area . Which I'm sure they are as shown by the false alarm Chinese pics that popped up. Scale of the problem: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/malaysian-air-scale/ (and look how long it took to find Steve Fossett... A capability they have with infrared sats which over a very large area detect missile launches and which also catch meteorites burning up - also apparently failed to detect any 'hot' explosion of any significance in the vicinity. Though if it broke up midair then it wouldn't be detectable by that means.

My making a joke was not meant to be offensive. The situation is real and tragic to the friends and relatives of those passengers. Personally, I feel frustrated , as there is so very little information available to the public.

Sensitive terrorism and security issues are hardly likely to be dispensed to the public, so basically we are been kept in the dark, irrespective of the fact that no wreckage has been found.

And so the Conspiracy bandwagon gets rolling...

I am surprised some members of this forum make moronic jokes about an incident that is still causing real stress to so many relatives.

The situation is very much in my mind because I have personal involvement in the air industry and am frustrated at times that security standards are not maintained throughout the world. I was on a BA flight to Cape Town on the upper deck of a 747,the stewardess had the door to the flight deck open for at least 30 mins whilst she chatted to the pilots,so these lax standards are not just on Asian airlines.

Finally the news seems to be making logical decisions to this plane search,but the Malaysians seem to have no capacity to use any imagination as to what is the most likely route this plane may have taken.

Thank goodness for the involvement of the Americans,they appear to have the assets and technology to support their efforts.

I suspect some form of hi-jacking occurred at the start of this plane loss which has become confused,but hopefully the end result will be more stringent and consistent cockpit/cabin rules for the safety of us all.

Dave

I am surprised some members of this forum make moronic jokes about an incident that is still causing real stress to so many relatives.

 

Please spare us the sanctimony. I know that it is currently very fashionable to be offended and to blubber on behalf of a complete stranger, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with making jokes about a tragic incident. I don't think that anyone on the forum needs to be reminded that the passengers on this flight were loved by someone, somewhere.

@[mention=982]tillson[/mention].

Quite right; it's what we British do.

"My leg's just been shot orf."

"Left or right, old chap?"

"Oh, the left, I can still hop to the bar."

@[mention=982]tillson[/mention].

Quite right; it's what we British do.

"My leg's just been shot orf."

"Left or right, old chap?"

"Oh, the left, I can still hop to the bar."

I bet no one has checked fleabay. Or maybe gumtree would be more likely.

@[mention=982]tillson[/mention].

Quite right; it's what we British do.

"My leg's just been shot orf."

"Left or right, old chap?"

"Oh, the left, I can still hop to the bar."

 

Sorry to hear about your leg Scimitar (sad face).

Please spare us the sanctimony. I know that it is currently very fashionable to be offended and to blubber on behalf of a complete stranger, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with making jokes about a tragic incident. I don't think that anyone on the forum needs to be reminded that the passengers on this flight were loved by someone, somewhere.

 

Hello tillson with all respect to you, I will have to totally disagree with you and others about looking at the funny side of this tragic event, BUT, like is always said each to their own .

 

MS.

The British have always made light of tragedy.

Read Spike Milligan's wartime exploits. True, he does get serious about the death of his lieutenant, but in general, fun is wrested from the most harrowing moments.

In the First World War there was the Wipers Times, a similarly light hearted glance at the appalling death rate all around them.

The British have always made light of tragedy.

 

It's a good response to life and the ever present possibility of death. One can mourn following a funeral with gloomy faces and responses making matters worse, or one can celebrate a passing life with a booze-up and laughter at a wake.

 

I'm betting those who've died would usually have preferred the latter to occur.

Edited March 15, 201412 yr by flecc

Thank you tillson for understanding exactly where I am coming from.

GOD BLESS YOU!

 

MS.

it's not proven that the plane has crashed.

I very much hoped that the plane is stolen and the passengers are held as hostages.

One can mourn following a funeral with gloomy faces and responses making matters worse, or one can celebrate a passing life with a booze-up and laughter at a wake.

 

I'm betting those who've died would usually have preferred the latter to occur.

 

I was discussing this with someone at a funeral a few weeks ago. Funeral wakes are strange affairs, they pull friends, relatives and acquaintances together all under one roof, usually for the first time in many years, and they turn out to be a very light hearted, jovial and pleasant experience. The mix of people present would not normally meet up were it not for the death of the individual concerned.

 

I think you are right, I'm sure that those who've died would want this.

it's not proven that the plane has crashed.

I very much hoped that the plane is stolen and the passengers are held as hostages.

 

 

The latest news a short while ago all pointed to a deliberate act, all transponders and communications were turned off and strong indications of a different course taken.

 

The world is still a big enough place for a landed airliner to be somewhere out of current detection. Remember when three hijacked airliners were landed together in a Middle East desert some years ago?

Edited March 15, 201412 yr by flecc

I suspect the producers of 'Lost' have teamed up with 'I'm a Celebrity Big Brother' and we'll find it's all a publicity stunt gone horribly wrong. Even now, the plane is on Gilligan's Island, being attended to by a legion of dwarves in Savile Row suits.

Apparently it has been seen…

 

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/dd/d0/89/ddd0894d257a1d7bca924e3a77626c46.jpg

Consider this too. Airliners carry only enough fuel to go to their intended destination plus an amount to get to somewhere else in case of being unable to land at the first place. They would never carry more than what was necessary, because of weight/cost considerations. This is the Captains responsibility after he has carried out all his calculation. So he, and the guy who filled up his aircraft know how much he has and thus how far he can go.

 

Haven't studied the geography much, but they do seem to be searching an ever increasing huge area?

I suspect that a check on records at his point of departure would show just how much fuel the pilot had ordered.

It was announced on the BBC TV news yesterday that he had enough fuel to reach the former southern USSR countries like Kazakhstan and neighbours, which were one of his two heading possibilities from satellite detection.

 

The other was south to running out of fuel over the Indian Ocean. Since that is just a suicide route we can probably rule it out, since suicide is quickly and simply achieved in an aircraft without a long trip first.

I suspect that a check on records at his point of departure would show just how much fuel the pilot had ordered.

 

 

..or just check how many Tesco clubcard points he got.

Haven't studied the geography much, but they do seem to be searching an ever increasing huge area?

Have a look at this:

 

http://project.wnyc.org/runways/

Have a look at this:

 

http://project.wnyc.org/runways/

That certainly answers my query!

Now we know it might have landed somewhere, perhaps it will reappear as the first plane in a newly formed Crimean International Airline

 

Don't know how the Americans will feel about the airline's initials appearing on the side of the plane:

 

CIA

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