March 17, 201412 yr I think from this event that a tracking device will be made to be active only from outside the aircraft and with the kit now available would transmit its positions for a good time.
March 18, 201412 yr Author What nobody has mentioned on the TV is the timing,the last ping from the plane was 08.00 am and the plane flew for about 7 hours from the radio transmission at 01.00 am. Was the guy who was flying the plane waiting for the dawn to come up? Therefore was he waiting for light to try to land the plane or skim it across the sea. I suppose obvious but so many experts are questioning why the plane flew for so long,maybe the pilot (hijacker or crew) was waiting for the dawn.
March 19, 201412 yr The BBC had a "10 possible Reasons" for the mystery yesterday, many of them just pure speculation. None of them referred to suicide, which I thought surprising. The business of the cockpit door/security only seems to have been mentioned very briefly.
March 19, 201412 yr None of them referred to suicide, which I thought surprising. I made mention earlier that I'd discounted suicide on the basis that the plane flew on for so long. There wouldn't be any point in that if suicide was intended, that just takes the stick being thrust forward at any time, putting the plane into a steep dive.
March 19, 201412 yr Author Flecc...firstly I should add that my son is a first officer of similar age to the FO on that 777, I am relieved that all his flying is in Europe....that makes my involvement in this incident more personal. I agree about your conclusions on suicide and note that Malaysian Airlines are trying to wriggle out of their responsibities by starting to suggest plane error rather than hijacking or crew involvement,the compensations if an employee of Malaysian Airlines is found to be to blaim would be substantial. This loss is unprecedented in that there is no obvious reason why this plane should be taken in the directions they suspect,so the speculation is also unprecedented....my thoughts are that someone became mentally confused and decided to fly this plane off to some remote location with the intention to land it there and the end result was a ditching. Or maybe the plane was hijacked and the pilots forced to continue to fly the plane with a view to a 9/11 type ending,but the pilots managed to deceive the hijackers and flew is as far away from urban areas to minimise loss of life. Its a shame for the crew that we may never know what really happened. regards Dave
March 19, 201412 yr Or maybe the plane was hijacked and the pilots forced to continue to fly the plane with a view to a 9/11 type ending,but the pilots managed to deceive the hijackers and flew is as far away from urban areas to minimise loss of life. Its a shame for the crew that we may never know what really happened. regards Dave This would fit the latest from Malaysia today that they are focusing on the Indian Ocean southwards. If this route is found to be the case from wreckage found, we could safely conclude that the pilots should indeed be recognised for their bravery, for that is a route to a certain end, out of fuel over the ocean.
March 19, 201412 yr I looked into my crystal ball and I saw the plane in Eastern Indonesia. When were you there? You didn't have to go that far to see it. I looked into my TV and saw it in Telford.
March 22, 201412 yr Author Satellite images...something I don't understand....they announce that at a point in time they can see an object in an image....why can't they,allowing for drift,look at that point on the prior/next pass of the satellite...they could then track the movement of that object against time. Don't know enough about this subject to know why that is not possible...maybe others can advise? Also nobody has asked the CEO of Malysia Air what is his plan when a plane goes missing and why it took 5 hours before anybody started searching for this plane....I am sure that in Europe if a plane did not move onto it's next ATC area,jets would have been scrambled within 30 mins and all local radar would have immediately advised....the world has had to respond and one must say very well to overcome bad Asian SOP (standard operating procedures). Dave Edited March 22, 201412 yr by Kudoscycles
March 22, 201412 yr there are a few theories. It's very well planned, night flight, normal air corridor, shadowing another big plane, Lithium batteries, highly skilled Chinese engineers working from Freescale semi. etc. The worst scenario involves a mad pilot, after switching off the transponder, he reprogrammed a suicide route into the flight computer, then brought the plane up to 45,000ft, depressurized the plane to kill all passengers quietly, then brought the plane down to 15,000ft, opened door, jumped off air plane etc. He is now hiding in the Turks & Caicos Islands under a false name.
March 22, 201412 yr there are a few theories. It's very well planned, night flight, normal air corridor, shadowing another big plane, Lithium batteries, highly skilled Chinese engineers working from Freescale semi. etc. The worst scenario involves a mad pilot, after switching off the transponder, he reprogrammed a suicide route into the flight computer, then brought the plane up to 45,000ft, depressurized the plane to kill all passengers quietly, then brought the plane down to 15,000ft, opened door, jumped off air plane etc. He is now hiding in the Turks & Caicos Islands under a false name. I was reading an article in The Times this week by an "expert" whose favoured two theories were hijacking and suicide, so it seems suicide is back on the possibility list? The cockpit security issue again? Regarding the satellite imagery, I reckon there will be a lot going on behind the scenes that we are unaware of, after all this is a very sensitive area of photography.
March 22, 201412 yr Consider this: I can go to google earth and tell the make of car sitting in my yard. The satellite images were supplied by a country that claims to be able to see license plate from space and fly remote controled bombs through a doorway 1000's of miles away. Yet they could not identify the debis. And why oh why, if there was any remote chance of suvivors, did they not continue to track the debris? If they would have, they could have given the search planes exact coordinates. What is really going on here?
March 22, 201412 yr And why oh why, if there was any remote chance of suvivors, did they not continue to track the debris? If they would have, they could have given the search planes exact coordinates. What is really going on here? Nothing. They didn't track the debris because they didn't know they'd seen it at the time. The vast amount of data streamed in from these satellites is such that it can be days later when the analysis is completed for any one zone. That's why each satellite sighting hasn't been reported until two or three days after the satellite spotted the debris.
March 22, 201412 yr Emo Rider - Consider this: I can go to google earth and tell the make of car sitting in my yard. Tell me the colour of my motorcycle parked outside my house? if there was any remote chance of suvivors, did they not continue to track the debris? Cloud cover isn't conducive for optical searches add the fact that an orbit takes 90 or so minutes and tracks a different area each revolution. Note the delay between date of images and when they eventually locate something. Its quicker nowadays than the Cold War days when they had to parachute film back, but even with digital imaging it still takes time to download, process and analyse. Think looking for a needle in a haystack using a microscope. Edited March 22, 201412 yr by Wicky
March 22, 201412 yr Emo Rider - Tell me the colour of my motorcycle parked outside my house? Cloud cover isn't conducive for optical searches add the fact that an orbit takes 90 or so minutes and tracks a different area each revolution. Note the delay between date of images and when they eventually locate something. Its quicker nowadays than the Cold War days when they had to parachute film back, but even with digital imaging it still takes time to download, process and analyse. Think looking for a needle in a haystack using a microscope. The car in the google earth photo is my wife's 2002 Polo. It was taken sometime around 2006 best we can tell. That was 7 years ago. Things have progressed a great deal since then. If google earth's satellite took an updated shot when your bike was there you could indeed tell the color. Go have a look yourself instead of making a veiled attempt of calling me a liar. As for your explaination about the satellite, that found the debris, orbit behaviour, that makes sense and gave a valid point as to why the debris was not tracked. There are, however, spy satellites in what are called stationary orbits. They never move off of a target. They can also see at night and use radar technology to produce images as well. This works particularly well at sea. They can actually map the the surface of the earth beneath the waves from space. I believe that there is technology being used today that not only was being used to track that plane when it disappeared, it also could be used to find it. The governments with these tools are not showing their hand.
March 22, 201412 yr My point being was not that you are a liar but first you need know where it is to look to see the colour of the bike … Even with my location in my profile as a clue you'd stand no chance. re GeoStationary orbits = 22,236 miles. Photo reccie satellite = approx 200 miles. See the difference - the normal orbiting spy sats literally skim the atmosphere. Geostationary sats are too far high for hi-res imaging. How do you know Radar sats aren't being used? again is there a satellite at the right place at the right time… http://www.rap.ucar.edu/~djohnson/satellite/figures/geo_orbit1.gif Yes the capabilities of Radar sats are impressive but it will take time to scour the area at a suitable resolution to detect anything. Staring SpotLight: up to 25cm resolution, scene size depending on incidence angle, for example ~ 4km (width) x 3.7km (length) at 60°; High Resolution SpotLight: up to 1m resolution, scene size 5 to 10km (width) x 5km (length); SpotLight: up to 2m resolution, scene size 10km (width) x 10km (length); StripMap: up to 3m resolution, scene size 30km (width) x 50km (length*); ScanSAR: up to 18.5m resolution, scene size 100km (width) x 150km (length*). Wide ScanSAR : up to 40m resolution, scene size up to 270km (width) x 200km (length**);
March 22, 201412 yr Consider this: I can go to google earth and tell the make of car sitting in my yard. The satellite images were supplied by a country that claims to be able to see license plate from space and fly remote controled bombs through a doorway 1000's of miles away. Yet they could not identify the debis. And why oh why, if there was any remote chance of suvivors, did they not continue to track the debris? If they would have, they could have given the search planes exact coordinates. What is really going on here? Google Earth imagery at high resolution is aerial imagery, not satellite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Earth. You're not comparing like with like.
March 23, 201412 yr saturdays Daily Mail Missing jet WAS carrying highly flammable lithium batteries: CEO of Malaysian Airlines finally admits to dangerous cargo four days after DENYING it When asked days ago, he said it was carrying 'tonnes of mangosteens' Lithium-ion batteries have caused 140 mid-air incidents in last 20 years The devices are commonly used in mobile phones and laptops Classed as dangerous by The International Civil Aviation Organisation Reignites theory that missing flight may have crashed after on-board fire Aviation expert said it re-affirm belief that flames started in cargo hold One cargo plane crashed in 2010 after attempting an emergency landing Safety report said battery caught fire and filled the flight deck with smoke Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2586308/Missing-jet-WAS-carrying-highly-flammable-lithium-batteries-CEO-Malaysian-Airlines-finally-admits-dangerous-cargo.html#ixzz2wlq3ruBi Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
March 23, 201412 yr Fire in cargo hold - pilot heads for nearest airport, fire interferes with comms connections or hull integrity, possibly leading to sudden depressurisation, crew rendered unconscious but plane already on a southerly heading to nearest airport. Plane flies on and on, with unconscious (later, dead) crew and passengers until fuel ends.
March 23, 201412 yr Fire in cargo hold - pilot heads for nearest airport, fire interferes with comms connections or hull integrity, possibly leading to sudden depressurisation, crew rendered unconscious but plane already on a southerly heading to nearest airport. Plane flies on and on, with unconscious (later, dead) crew and passengers until fuel ends. As if lithium batteries aren't expensive enough already! More of this publicity and they'll end having to be transported from China a couple of times a year in a large barge towed by a tug at the end of a very long towrope.
March 23, 201412 yr As if lithium batteries aren't expensive enough already! More of this publicity and they'll end having to be transported from China a couple of times a year in a large barge towed by a tug at the end of a very long towrope. Perhaps we need to open our own factory for them over here. A few forum members each sticking a fiver into the pot, should see us off to a good start.
March 23, 201412 yr Perhaps we need to open our own factory for them over here. A few forum members each sticking a fiver into the pot, should see us off to a good start. Or persuade BMZ* of Germany to open a factory here where we can now undercut German costs? *Kalkhoff battery maker.
March 24, 201412 yr The world is saddened by the news that flight MH370 crashed in the Indian Ocean, west of Perth, Australia. Information supplied by a UK company, Inmarsat, confirmed the planes final location. As myself and other felt that this information was available, it is unfortunate that it took this long to come to light. Any hope for survivors is all but gone. My thoughts go out to all those affected by this tradgity.
March 24, 201412 yr As myself and other felt that this information was available. Could you please show where you or anyone else previously mentioned using doppler shift to work out approx direction of flight path. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26724966 The (doppler shift) analysis is cutting-edge and has never been done before...
March 24, 201412 yr Could you please show where you or anyone else previously mentioned using doppler shift to work out approx direction of flight path. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26724966 As I said in my last post and has been stated in the news artices, pings from the missing jet were recieved for five hours after it disappeared. Hence the existing information on the day of the crash. As it did take so long for a team of talented satellite tracking analyist to use a new method to determine the plane's final location, I find it unfortunate. Nothing more, nothing less. There is also another artice, that was just released, that stated since 9/11 planes deviating from their predetermined flight paths have been tracked. It has come to light the Malaysain radar tracked a large plane flying over their airspace (flight MH370) and no action was taken. Heads will roll as Malaysian officials have some very embarassing questions to answer. Again information available but not revealed or acted upon. Unfortunate indeed. But you felt, in light of this incredibly sad news, you had to take one last shot at me. Hope you're feeling self important with your groping for something to say. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Please feel free to substitute your body part directly south of your waist and substitute it for the word rose. Have a nice day. The families of those people certainly are not. :-(
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