I remember when I first joined, my first bike was a powertrek dynamo, as I remember eddie told me that I had been sold a pup and it was rubbish and then some time down the road the guy that started oxygen bikes said that he had had one and basically (as I remember) he fashioned his bike range on them and sure enough some years down the line the old powertrek is still going strong with a very quiet rear motor that is very light on battery life, it`s comfortable, easy to handle and has never let me down other than a puncture before i fitted Marathons. I wondered where he had gone!!!

to clarify, meant the ave mh7 is a weird beast

 

Sorry to divert this fascinating thread to ebkes, but, cough, splutter, as an MH7 owner I have to comment.

 

Weird seems an odd description, it's a balloon tyred 20" Bosch ebike - a fairly conservative design.

 

The smaller wheels do aid climbing, so with a rider able to input some power it will get up almost anything.

 

Comfort is good, as AVE point out the three points of contact - saddle, handlebars and pedals - are in the same place relative to each other as on a big wheeled bike.

 

No suspension fork and quality components make the MH7 lightish for an ebike.

 

Handling is good, the steering is direct rather than twitchy.

 

The tyres handle most surfaces well, although their size means care is needed over deep ruts.

 

Most - including mine - came with the smaller 8ah battery, which may be a limiting factor for some secondhand buyers.

 

I've done several 50+ mile rides on mine with no problem using the bigger batteries from my other Bosch bike.

 

The semi-fold means it will go in the back of a medium size hatchback.

 

Good for me, because it means I've been able to take a proper distance capable ebike to different locations for rides.

 

Second opinion from Croxden of this parish who tried my bike over a good few miles and was quite taken with it.

 

AVE are back in business and there's a new range of MH7s with the latest Bosch motor.

 

They are not widely sold in this country, probably because they are far from cheap.

 

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.emotion-technologies.de/ebikes/ave/mh-mobility-pedelecs/&prev=search

Sorry to divert this fascinating thread to ebkes, but, cough, splutter, as an MH7 owner I have to comment.

 

Weird seems an odd description, it's a balloon tyred 20" Bosch ebike - a fairly conservative design.

 

The smaller wheels do aid climbing, so with a rider able to input some power it will get up almost anything.

 

Comfort is good, as AVE point out the three points of contact - saddle, handlebars and pedals - are in the same place relative to each other as on a big wheeled bike.

 

No suspension fork and quality components make the MH7 lightish for an ebike.

 

Handling is good, the steering is direct rather than twitchy.

 

The tyres handle most surfaces well, although their size means care is needed over deep ruts.

 

Most - including mine - came with the smaller 8ah battery, which may be a limiting factor for some secondhand buyers.

 

I've done several 50+ mile rides on mine with no problem using the bigger batteries from my other Bosch bike.

 

The semi-fold means it will go in the back of a medium size hatchback.

 

Good for me, because it means I've been able to take a proper distance capable ebike to different locations for rides.

 

Second opinion from Croxden of this parish who tried my bike over a good few miles and was quite taken with it.

 

AVE are back in business and there's a new range of MH7s with the latest Bosch motor.

 

They are not widely sold in this country, probably because they are far from cheap.

 

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.emotion-technologies.de/ebikes/ave/mh-mobility-pedelecs/&prev=search

Thanks for really informative review (meant weird beast complimentary,I'm building a BPM folding shopper)

Thanks for really informative review (meant weird beast complimentary,I'm building a BPM folding shopper)

 

My MH7 has attracted some comments.

 

Of course, 99.99 per cent of people couldn't give a stuff what it looks like, but those that do take an interest seem to like it.

 

"Cheeky" is a word I've heard and it's often described as 'little' as in 'that's a nice little bike'.

Even Eddie in exile gave us an enjoyable thread and some good natured banter....it certainly livened things up a bit,the forum had become a bit sterile. I wouldn't build a Kudos 'Fat Boy' tank,it's the opposite to what I am trying to achieve with these bikes but it did occur to me that we need some small volume 'niche' bikes to satisfy some special requirements.

KudosDave

You can still follow his banter if you know where to look;)

 

Happily pursuing his interests on a non commercial site:)

...it certainly livened things up a bit,the forum had become a bit sterile.

KudosDave

not if you want to build your own bike.

The forum has never been so full of stories of self build.

Good morning,whatever one's views on Eddie's style,he certainly made me stop and think about the design and weight of these e-bikes....I am sure Eddie would have approved of our Kudos Arriba,it was pretty close to Eddie's ideals. Actually the UK and Germany went down a similar design route but Holland is still comfortable with heavy,low powered e-bikes....one of my original suppliers still supplies 5000 plus e-bikes to Holland every year,their design and weight has not changed in 5 years,the Dutch appear to love them.

KudosDave

 

That could be because the Dutch ride them everyday on roads and probably do five to ten times greater mileage than UK riders. They expect their bikes to last years. The kind of bikes favoured on this forum seem to be more for sport than transport, and probably have a limited life.

Commuting 100 miles a week. ( I like the scenic route)

Plus fun trips at weekend.

I want my bike to last.

And go fast too.

Commuting 100 miles a week. ( I like the scenic route)

Plus fun trips at weekend.

I want my bike to last.

And go fast too.

Hope you enjoy the scenic route D8ve. My commute (Tewks to glos - 12 miles each way) is fairly scenic, if you ignore the dual carriageway bit.But I'm afraid my five year old Smarta is more Amsterdam, than Tour de F. But it gets there, never fails, except when i forget to charge it, and with mud guards, chainguard, mirror and a good upright position arrive fairly relaxed if not as quick as some - especially those (the majority, I regret to say) who have their bikes strapped to cars.

Bill

Like many on here my health leaves something to be desired. So off bike since October and now back on with 5 mile runs at 10 mph. Last year when fit going everywhere at 15mph even managing bristol to Taunton and back one Sunday.

This was without electric assistance. On my full suspension tourer. If/when I get power on my it. it will be super quick with ridiculous range.

 

Dave

Edited March 16, 201511 yr by D8ve

Commuting 100 miles a week. ( I like the scenic route)

Plus fun trips at weekend.

I want my bike to last.

And go fast too.

Likewise. My road bike's done nearly 7k miles and has only had replacement tyres and brake pads. I'm only hoping my ebike when finished can do something similar (although I think it'll need more maintenance!).

 

Michael

When I first joined this forum there was a direct speaking guy named EddieO and whilst he was outspoken with his views he was respected on this forum.

 

But for me,and I was often the butt of his comments,he was ahead of the technology curve and his desire to achieve lighter,better balanced,better looking e-bikes I respected and in fact designed the current Kudos range around those ideals.

 

Dave, Eddie has passed his thanks to you for your kind comments which he greatly appreciates.

.

Just an observation, but if you go back far enough Eddie used to promote Wisper bikes as the best thing since sliced bread and nothing else came near. Nowadays we have a member who at every possible opportunity does the same for Woosh:confused:

 

If anyone is in contact with Eddie, pond life says Hio_O

ha ha - very funny! not as well engineered as yours though.

Live long and prosper!

If anyone is in contact with Eddie, pond life says Hio_O

 

He will see this for himself , he's currently in Spain.

.