I was answering OG. Thought I was anyway.. His opinion Johnson being responsible for thousands of deaths.???

But it comes as second nature to disagree with me and pull up spelling mistakes and such.

I found that your prejudice against Labour is blatant, that's why my last post.

Here is the seat prediction, you may find it interesting enough to comment. It is on the wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Seat_predictions

 

 

It is clear that if a GE is called today, Labour will have a landslide majority.

It's easy to see why conservatives want to replace BJ.

I found that your prejudice against Labour is blatant, that's why my last post.

Here is the seat prediction, you may find it interesting enough to comment. It is on the wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Seat_predictions

 

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It is clear that if a GE is called today, Labour will have a landslide majority.

It's easy to see why conservatives want to replace BJ.

Answering questions that haven't been posed. Well done. I, m not against Labour, just it's current incarnation.

And its says a great deal about your prejudice against both myself and Johnson/Tories to accuse me of prejudice against Labour amidst a thread full of hate against Tories and Johnson. How many on here post without expressing hate towards one or other, from Blonde Bawbag to saying he's personally responsible for deaths of thousands. Not a word about that, but point out the obvious deficiency off Starmer /Labour without resorting to hate language and you are straight onto it.

One of main reasons, if not the main one, country is in such a mess is Labour's utter inability to provide a viable alternative for past decade. Had we had a real alternative Boris and Tories would never have got in power.

Edited January 22, 20224 yr by Zlatan

It is clear that if a GE is called today, Labour will have a landslide majority.

It's easy to see why conservatives want to replace BJ.

 

But in truth it isn't at all clear.

 

It takes weeks to organise a GE and polls are notoriously unreliable over time.

 

Given the public's short attention span and once the Tories wheel out their lie machine, things will change very rapidly:

 

We are at a good point on Covid at present so the Tory machine will capitalise on that, Boris saving the nation etc. To that will be added the mythical success of leaving the EU, the trade deal with Australia and promises of much more.

 

Truths will be blended with lies to portray Labour in a very poor light. Corbyn, Marxism and anti semitism will be raked up once again, accusing Starmer of doing nothing about them. As will Labour's dithering about leaving the EU, that leaving still being favoured by a huge swathe of the public. The dithering will be used to say that Labour would have made a shambles of dealing with Covid, costing countless lives, reinforced by the truth of Starmer concentrating on electioneering rather than actual policies. Plus a host of other things their devious minds dream up.

 

By any election day the picture would have changed radically.

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But in truth it isn't at all clear.

 

It takes weeks to organise a GE and polls are notoriously unreliable over time.

 

Given the public's short attention span and once the Tories wheel out their lie machine, things will change very rapidly:

 

We are at a good point on Covid at present so the Tory machine will capitalise on that, Boris saving the nation etc. To that will be added the mythical success of leaving the EU, the trade deal with Australia and promises of much more.

 

Truths will be blended with lies to portray Labour in a very poor light. Corbyn, Marxism and anti semitism will be raked up once again, accusing Starmer of doing nothing about them. As will Labour's dithering about leaving the EU, that leaving still being favoured by a huge swathe of the public. The dithering will be used to say that Labour would have made a shambles of dealing with Covid, costing countless lives, reinforced by the truth of Starmer concentrating on electioneering rather than actual policies. Plus a host of other things their devious minds dream up.

 

By any election day the picture would have changed radically.

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of course the conservatives will use all those arguments but I sense the wind has turned.

 

There is little difference political between Starmer and Johnson. Both are largely Blairite or Majorite, realistic politics instead of conviction politics like MT.

 

When you compared John McDonell's spending plan against BJ's spending plan at the last GE, there was 6% difference between them. That is that close. I expect Starmer's economic policy and BJ's will be even closer than 6%, Sunak has already announced that corporation tax will be 25% from 2023 against McDonell's 26%.

 

CT is the key to gain support from businesses and wealthy donors, without them, you just cannot win because fighting the next general election will cost about £100 on top of £140 millions given to the parties by taxpayers. There is no way to win an election without wealthy donors

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of course the conservatives will use all those arguments but I sense the wind has turned.

 

There is little difference political between Starmer and Johnson. Both are largely Blairite or Majorite, realistic politics instead of conviction politics like MT.

 

When you compared John McDonell's spending plan against BJ's spending plan at the last GE, there was 6% difference between them. That is that close. I expect Starmer's economic policy and BJ's will be even closer than 6%, Sunak has already announced that corporation tax will be 25% from 2023 against McDonell's 26%.

 

CT is the key to gain support from businesses and wealthy donors, without them, you just cannot win because fighting the next general election will cost about £100 on top of £140 millions given to the parties by taxpayers. There is no way to win an election without wealthy donors

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All true, these are arguments that work for those like you and I who have an interest in the subject. To most of the public they might just have well have been in Chinese.

 

They are influenced more by what they have most recently heard than by experiences and opinions shortly before, as the wild swings in polls and elections have so often shown.

 

Remember the polls and result of the vote to join the EEC, swinging from around 60% against to over 65% for in just six weeks.

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But in truth it isn't at all clear.

 

It takes weeks to organise a GE and polls are notoriously unreliable over time.

 

Given the public's short attention span and once the Tories wheel out their lie machine, things will change very rapidly:

 

We are at a good point on Covid at present so the Tory machine will capitalise on that, Boris saving the nation etc. To that will be added the mythical success of leaving the EU, the trade deal with Australia and promises of much more.

 

Truths will be blended with lies to portray Labour in a very poor light. Corbyn, Marxism and anti semitism will be raked up once again, accusing Starmer of doing nothing about them. As will Labour's dithering about leaving the EU, that leaving still being favoured by a huge swathe of the public. The dithering will be used to say that Labour would have made a shambles of dealing with Covid, costing countless lives, reinforced by the truth of Starmer concentrating on electioneering rather than actual policies. Plus a host of other things their devious minds dream up.

 

By any election day the picture would have changed radically.

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Woosh has an ability to count eggs, not chickens and thinks score at half time means game is won. It isn't.

The last 3 months have all been designed to put Johnson in a good light. Folk are beginning to feel Covid is at its end for us and footings have been dug to make that look as if down to Johnson. Both with his almost irrelevant booster campaign, his opening up early,, NHS not being overwhelmed and deaths nothing like those predicted by "experts" . (Fergusson! )

The prep work is all there, if not for Johnson then for some other Tory. And Starmer has actually helped. (playing along with exaggerated severity of Omicron? against every virologist in the world, apart from ours)

Like I said naive is the word. Lots of it about.

All true, these are arguments that work for those like you and I who have an interest in the subject. To most of the public they might just have well have been in Chinese.

 

They are influenced more by what they have most recently heard than by experiences and opinions shortly before, as the wild swings in polls and elections have so often shown.

 

Remember the polls and result of the vote to join the EEC, swinging from around 60% against to over 65% for in just six weeks.

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we all can remember the headline:

“It’s The Sun Wot Won It.”

Sun headline, 11 April 1992

Blair went to see Murdoch in Australia and the rest is history. Starmer will have to have some big captains of industry and newspapers proprietors in his pocket as soon as.

we all can remember the headline:

“It’s The Sun Wot Won It.”

Sun headline, 11 April 1992

Blair went to see Murdoch in Australia and the rest is history. Starmer will have to have some big captains of industry and newspapers proprietors in his pocket as soon as.

And sit down and write policies and manifesto not on a fag packet in red crayon.

And concentrate on voters and not minority hard done to outer Mongolian gay, lesbien out casts.

1992??

Edited January 22, 20224 yr by Zlatan

And sit down and write policies and manifesto not on a fag packet in red crayon.

And concentrate on voters and not minority hard done to outer Mongolian gay, lesbien out casts.

I don't think it's difficult to do that.

Blair did not try to be different on the economy to John Major and he won in 1997 because he has support of the key Jewish community, celebrities and major donors and if I remember correctly, including Alan Sugar.

Starmer has to keep to Sunak's tax and spending plan, how difficult is that?

Starmer will have to have some big captains of industry and newspapers proprietors in his pocket as soon as.

 

He'll have to be another pseudo Tory like Blair to achieve that, so not socialist Labour.

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He'll have to be another pseudo Tory like Blair to achieve that, so not socialist Labour.

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True but remember, Blair was seen as the messiah that freed the country from toryism.

It remains to be seen how much socialist Labour voters want to be freed from toryism at the next GE.

I think a lot if not all will accept that Sunak's tax and spending plan is about right and will be satisfied with only a change of the top team.

He'll have to be another pseudo Tory like Blair to achieve that, so not socialist Labour.

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Totally agree with that. Only long term solution for Labour is to accept country has changed. Offspring of devout Labour voters of 35 years ago now have investments and are more interested in Hargreaves Lansdown than socialism as we knew it.

Ofcourse there is a hardcore of left wing voters but never enough to get current Labour in power.

Not even sure the Labour/Tory distinction is any longer applicable. We, ve seen Tories adopt left wing policies and labour then appear almost redundant.

We are in desperate need of a change to both parties, their leaders and the system that puts them in power. Trouble is the party that gets that power knows full changing system will mean relinquishing that very power they craved.

Really don't think Starmer is the answer but likewise Johnson isn't either.

I'll be honest. I could never vote Labour whilst Starmer is in charge. I don't think I, m alone either.

Totally agree with that. Only long term solution for Labour is to accept country has changed.

 

Indeed, the Labour name is no longer appropriate. In today's world and with our welfare state we are in truth both a socialist and a small "c" conservative country. The Conservative party represent the latter interest and we need a Socialist Party to represent the former.

 

But of course renaming Labour to Socialist wouldn't work since socialism has been made made a dirty word by Marxist communism, so maybe a leaf out of the continental book and using Social Democrat instead would be more suitable.

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Woosh

Finished that bike but still want a proper kill cord/switch.. In event of a tumble power returns to system once brakes are released, so if bike was on its side with throttle pushed open it could still hurt rider. (was thinking fingers in chain)

The switched brakes, much as fine for road, killing power when braking, don't really offer any further safety... Doesn't anybody make a kill switch (closed circuit when detached) that could replace one of the brakes??? I, d guess anybody building bike for kids would want one... Could make one out of a brake lever?? (jet ski and outboard kill switches are often closed circuit when detached, ie on when detached, they earth the ignition, but wouldn't have correct 3 pin plug(only 2 pins used) for back of Tongshen display??)

Any ideas??

The brake sensor has 2 wires: ground and signal.

To kill the motor, shorten the signal to ground.

You just add a switch if you like between the ground and signal wire.

The brake sensor has 2 wires: ground and signal.

To kill the motor, shorten the signal to ground.

You just add a switch if you like between the ground and signal wire.

Cheers..

Perhaps you could offer some data showing exactly how he has killed these thousands of people.

And you can offer some data that says he didn't?, after the pillock just declared victory "it's over" while people are still catching and and dying of it?

And the next version isn't guaranteed to non lethal.

You'll be saying Brexit is a big success next

But it comes as second nature to disagree with me

That seems very familiar

Offspring of devout Labour voters of 35 years ago now have investments and are more interested in Hargreaves Lansdown than socialism as we knew it.

My children move to etoro.

They just set their account to 'copytrader' for the system to copy trades made by their favourite trader or traders. No need to spend time following the news.

And you can offer some data that says he didn't?, after the pillock just declared victory "it's over" while people are still catching and and dying of it?

And the next version isn't guaranteed to non lethal.

You'll be saying Brexit is a big success next

Told you before it impossible to prove a negative. I reckon Martians caused pandemic, you prove otherwise. It's upto you to prove your assumption. You, ve said it at least half a dozen times now.

If it's case who is responsible for French, Italian or American deaths? I can guess. Boris.

Told you before it impossible to prove a negative. I reckon Martians caused pandemic, you prove otherwise. It's upto you to prove your assumption. You, ve said it at least half a dozen times now.

If it's case who is responsible for French, Italian or American deaths? I can guess. Boris.

Zlatan, we have gone over this amount of ground multiple times before . The populations of Germany and the UK are not greatly dissimilar , and if anything the UK had a much greater leeway in handling the first wave., being an island and uniquely not being bound by EU free movement , but the death rate per million in the UK is 1000 more than Germany . Of the countries Italy was the special case, with it being present in the Alps before anyone knew it was outside China. France was linked to the same outbreak . Moreover the UK figure of 2247 per million is skewed and in my opinion dishonest , because people who refuse to die on day 27 after diagnosis. and inconveniently clog up ICU beds for an additional few weeks get removed from the statistics. So even though i have no vote in UK Elections, I would blame BJ. .. And what is more pertinent, my cousin in London would blame him as well.

Zlatan, we have gone over this amount of ground multiple times before . The populations of Germany and the UK are not greatly dissimilar , and if anything the UK had a much greater leeway in handling the first wave., being an island and uniquely not being bound by EU free movement , but the death rate per million in the UK is 1000 more than Germany . Of the countries Italy was the special case, with it being present in the Alps before anyone knew it was outside China. France was linked to the same outbreak . Moreover the UK figure of 2247 per million is skewed and in my opinion dishonest , because people who refuse to die on day 27 after diagnosis. and inconveniently clog up ICU beds for an additional few weeks get removed from the statistics. So even though i have no vote in UK Elections, I would blame BJ. .. And what is more pertinent, my cousin in London would blame him as well.

All in your opinion Danidl.

The FOI details that of the 17,371 Covid deaths in the recording period, 3,774 were people under the age of 65, with 13,597 over the age of 65.

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/number-people-who-died-covid-22818253

 

Status of COVID-19

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.

 

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

 

5.Provisional deaths registered in 2021

There were 549,367 deaths registered in England and 36,141 in Wales in 2021 (January to December

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/december2021#provisional-deaths-registered-in-2021

 

 

 

Year
Number
of deaths
Population
(Thousands)
Crude mortality
rate (per
100,000
population)
Age-standardised
mortality rate
(per 100,000
population)


2020
608,002
59,829
1,016.20
1,043.50


2019
530,841
59,440
893.1
925


2018
541,589
59,116
916.1
965.4


2017
533,253
58,745
907.7
965.3


2016
525,048
58,381
899.3
966.9


2015
529,655
57,885
915
993.2


2014
501,424
57,409
873.4
953


2013
506,790
56,948
889.9
985.9


2012
499,331
56,568
882.7
987.4


2011
484,367
56,171
862.3
978.6


2010
493,242
55,692
885.7
1,017.10


2009
491,348
55,235
889.6
1,033.80


2008
509,090
54,842
928.3
1,091.90


2007
504,052
54,387
926.8
1,091.80


2006
502,599
53,951
931.6
1,104.30


2005
512,993
53,575
957.5
1,143.80


2004
514,250
53,152
967.5
1,163.00


2003
539,151
52,863
1,019.90
1,232.10


2002
535,356
52,602
1,017.70
1,231.30


2001
532,498
52,360
1,017.00
1,236.20


2000
537,877
52,140
1,031.60
1,266.40


1999
553,532
51,933
1,065.80
1,320.20


1998
553,435
51,720
1,070.10
1,327.20


1997
558,052
51,560
1,082.30
1,350.80


1996
563,007
51,410
1,095.10
1,372.50


1995
565,902
51,272
1,103.70
1,392.00


1994
551,780
51,116
1,079.50
1,374.90


1993
578,512
50,986
1,134.70
1,453.40


1992
558,313
50,876
1,097.40
1,415.00


1991
570,044
50,748
1,123.30
1,464.30


1990
564,846
50,561
1,117.20
1,462.60

 

 

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-wake-up-video-uncensored-premiere_5W9zFEVRK6pKZ6B.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/20/dangerous-to-lift-self-isolation-rules-for-uk-care-home-staff

All in your opinion Danidl.

is there any other that matters?