is there any other that matters?

Afraid not, just yours.. OG and Woosh might not quite agree. But fair point.

You do normally talk sense and express your opinions politely but in this case, if I agreed, well we, d just both be wrong wouldn't we.

Am just imagining at some point in the coming days/weeks/months, the entire railway system simultaneously putting out an announcement on every PA system on the rail network: The tory government has just hit the buffers. A replacement PM will be along shortly.

Moreover the UK figure of 2247 per million is skewed and in my opinion dishonest , because people who refuse to die on day 27 after diagnosis. and inconveniently clog up ICU beds for an additional few weeks get removed from the statistics.

 

Not entirely so though.

 

The little over 72,000 deaths as being due to Covid-19 in 2020 was the figure after recalculation as deaths up to 60 days following a positive test.

 

The deaths in 2021 remain at the 28 days figure at present. Since the first 11 months to match the 2020 total Covid period also returned the same just over 72,000 on the 28 day basis, the true death rate for 2021 was much higher than 2020's.

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Not entirely so though.

 

The little over 72,000 deaths as being due to Covid-19 in 2020 was the figure after recalculation as deaths up to 60 days following a positive test.

 

The deaths in 2021 remain at the 28 days figure at present. Since the first 11 months to match the 2020 total Covid period also returned the same just over 72,000 on the 28 day basis, the true death rate for 2021 was much higher than 2020's.

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Thsnks for the correction.

Told you before it impossible to prove a negative. I reckon Martians caused pandemic, you prove otherwise. It's upto you to prove your assumption. You, ve said it at least half a dozen times now.

If it's case who is responsible for French, Italian or American deaths? I can guess. Boris.

Can I quote you on that last sentence?

And I thought the Whigs had been subsumed into liberals and tories many years ago...

And I thought the Whigs had been subsumed into liberals and tories many years ago...

In another unfunny (but perplexing) sense, tory infighting is evidently not ideological, fabricant, staunch defender of the piglet, is even more right wing pro brexit than Davis..

Anyone here ever had shingles?

 

I've a nasty feeling that this has been festering away since my Pfizer/BioNTech booster vaccine. But it wasn't until the pain/rash areas were very obviously the same as the very mild discomfort I've had through December that I thought of a connection. There are quite a few reports around though most occurred mush sooner.

 

Not for one minute claiming this is proof of anything, but I have a suspicion.

 

 

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I spoke to someone in work this morning who commented that a couple of people had come down with shingles (and others are off with various other milder afflictions) - and I remembered this post.

 

Hmmm. I recall a warning some time ago that one of the side effects of the covid vaccinations is that your general immune system gets suppressed more and more with each booster, and so we should expect to see an increase of other autoimmune based illnesses.

IIRC, isn't shingles one of those things where many people have a virus, continually lingering in your body, mostly dormant - kept in check by your natural immune system. But then in periods of some kind of immuno-suppression or other triggering, it can flare up again (kind of like a cold sore on your lip I guess?).

 

What really concerned me though, was at the same time as the above warning, the doctors that were discussing it were also talking about how the body is constantly fighting off and destroying cancerous cells each and every day, and they were concerned that this natural process is also going to get suppressed. So while things like shingles are no laughing matter, when I heard that, I really got worried

I spoke to someone in work this morning who commented that a couple of people had come down with shingles (and others are off with various other milder afflictions) - and I remembered this post.

 

Hmmm. I recall a warning some time ago that one of the side effects of the covid vaccinations is that your general immune system gets suppressed more and more with each booster, and so we should expect to see an increase of other autoimmune based illnesses.

IIRC, isn't shingles one of those things where many people have a virus, continually lingering in your body, mostly dormant - kept in check by your natural immune system. But then in periods of some kind of immuno-suppression or other triggering, it can flare up again (kind of like a cold sore on your lip I guess?).

 

What really concerned me though, was at the same time as the above warning, the doctors that were discussing it were also talking about how the body is constantly fighting off and destroying cancerous cells each and every day, and they were concerned that this natural process is also going to get suppressed. So while things like shingles are no laughing matter, when I heard that, I really got worried

Yes - it is a recurrence of Chickenpox which has lain dormant in or round nerve cells since original infection (for me, that was pre-1962).

 

I had two AV vaccinations in early 2021 - both in left arm. After a few months, there was still a very minor skin issue. I'd keep finding tiny blisters around the injections sites. I'd touch the area like when we fold our arms and feel a tiny rough/dry patch. A quick scratch and a tiny amount of clear liquid would appear. In itself, absolutely nothing. I did Yellow Card it as it was not a listed side effect.

 

Between my Pfizer/BioNTech "booster" (in my right arm, by choice) in mid-November, and mid-December, I got some very minor discomfort in my neck, under my chin, etc., which I thought could have been due to thyroid issues (I take thyroid hormone every day).

 

GP had a look/feel and decided it was probably nothing. But said to go back if it changed.

 

Carried on pretty much the same until two weeks ago - when the shingles appeared on my left neck/shoulder/ear/scalp. The overlap between the areas affected by the earlier discomfort and shingles was close - though shingles has been considerably more extensive.

 

I am neither convinced there is a causal relationship - nor that there isn't.

 

Regarding cancer, I recognise what you say, but am still sceptical in every direction.

 

BTW - The blisters have become scabs. Continue with itching, pain, poor sleep and generally feeling sorry for myself.

BTW - The blisters have become scabs. Continue with itching, pain, poor sleep and generally feeling sorry for myself.

 

Welcome to the club.

 

Went to bed last night about 23.45. Woke up at 3.10am and then couldn't get to sleep again until some time after 6am. Woke from that second sleep at 9.35am and got up still feeling very tired and still with all the aches and pains of 85 years. At least I didn't suffer the painful tachycardia of six of the previous 16 nights.

 

I'm long beyond feeling sorry for myself though, it's my fault for taking so much care to avoid fatal accidents all my life.

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Yes - it is a recurrence of Chickenpox which has lain dormant in or round nerve cells since original infection (for me, that was pre-1962).

 

I had two AV vaccinations in early 2021 - both in left arm. After a few months, there was still a very minor skin issue. I'd keep finding tiny blisters around the injections sites. I'd touch the area like when we fold our arms and feel a tiny rough/dry patch. A quick scratch and a tiny amount of clear liquid would appear. In itself, absolutely nothing. I did Yellow Card it as it was not a listed side effect.

 

Between my Pfizer/BioNTech "booster" (in my right arm, by choice) in mid-November, and mid-December, I got some very minor discomfort in my neck, under my chin, etc., which I thought could have been due to thyroid issues (I take thyroid hormone every day).

 

GP had a look/feel and decided it was probably nothing. But said to go back if it changed.

 

Carried on pretty much the same until two weeks ago - when the shingles appeared on my left neck/shoulder/ear/scalp. The overlap between the areas affected by the earlier discomfort and shingles was close - though shingles has been considerably more extensive.

 

I am neither convinced there is a causal relationship - nor that there isn't.

 

Regarding cancer, I recognise what you say, but am still sceptical in every direction.

 

BTW - The blisters have become scabs. Continue with itching, pain, poor sleep and generally feeling sorry for myself.

Oyster ... Had you taken the cure I suggested, and my father developed, it would all be a bad memory. That was my experience!!!

GI .. Shingles tends to occur when one is" run down" for whatever reason ..along with stys in eyes, Verruca, warts on hands , and this is not an unusual time of the year. Lack of exercise, excess food at Christmas all contributing

A resignation!

 

Treasury minister announces shock resignation in Lords in protest at government mishandling of fraudulent Covid business payments

 

Lord Agnew of Oulton has resigned his post as a minister based jointly in the Treasury and in the Cabinet Office in a surprise statement from the despatch box in the House or Lords. He said he was quitting because of his disapproval of the government’s response to the problem of fraudulent Covid business payments. He told peers:

 

Given that I am the minister for counter fraud, it would be somewhat dishonest to stay on in that role if I am incapable of doing it properly.

 

It is for this reason that I have sadly decided to tender my resignation as a minister across the Treasury and Cabinet Office with immediate affect.

 

Last week the government admitted that it expected to write off more than £4bn in Covid payments that were claimed fraudulently.

 

Agnew received a rare round of applause in the Lords after he ended his statement.

 

Angela Smith, the Labour leader in the Lords, said:

 

 

I think we have just witnessed one of the most dramatic moments we have ever seen in the house from a minister who felt his integrity could no longer ensure he remained a member of the government.

Yes - it is a recurrence of Chickenpox which has lain dormant in or round nerve cells since original infection (for me, that was pre-1962).

 

I had two AV vaccinations in early 2021 - both in left arm. After a few months, there was still a very minor skin issue. I'd keep finding tiny blisters around the injections sites. I'd touch the area like when we fold our arms and feel a tiny rough/dry patch. A quick scratch and a tiny amount of clear liquid would appear. In itself, absolutely nothing. I did Yellow Card it as it was not a listed side effect.

 

Between my Pfizer/BioNTech "booster" (in my right arm, by choice) in mid-November, and mid-December, I got some very minor discomfort in my neck, under my chin, etc., which I thought could have been due to thyroid issues (I take thyroid hormone every day).

 

GP had a look/feel and decided it was probably nothing. But said to go back if it changed.

 

Carried on pretty much the same until two weeks ago - when the shingles appeared on my left neck/shoulder/ear/scalp. The overlap between the areas affected by the earlier discomfort and shingles was close - though shingles has been considerably more extensive.

 

I am neither convinced there is a causal relationship - nor that there isn't.

 

Regarding cancer, I recognise what you say, but am still sceptical in every direction.

 

BTW - The blisters have become scabs. Continue with itching, pain, poor sleep and generally feeling sorry for myself.

 

Might Lysine be worth a go? Not sure if it works as well on shingles:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Naturals-Lysine-Powder-Pound/dp/B01L9TWESQ/

Yes - it is a recurrence of Chickenpox which has lain dormant in or round nerve cells since original infection (for me, that was pre-1962).

 

I had two AV vaccinations in early 2021 - both in left arm. After a few months, there was still a very minor skin issue. I'd keep finding tiny blisters around the injections sites. I'd touch the area like when we fold our arms and feel a tiny rough/dry patch. A quick scratch and a tiny amount of clear liquid would appear. In itself, absolutely nothing. I did Yellow Card it as it was not a listed side effect.

 

Between my Pfizer/BioNTech "booster" (in my right arm, by choice) in mid-November, and mid-December, I got some very minor discomfort in my neck, under my chin, etc., which I thought could have been due to thyroid issues (I take thyroid hormone every day).

 

GP had a look/feel and decided it was probably nothing. But said to go back if it changed.

 

Carried on pretty much the same until two weeks ago - when the shingles appeared on my left neck/shoulder/ear/scalp. The overlap between the areas affected by the earlier discomfort and shingles was close - though shingles has been considerably more extensive.

 

I am neither convinced there is a causal relationship - nor that there isn't.

 

Regarding cancer, I recognise what you say, but am still sceptical in every direction.

 

BTW - The blisters have become scabs. Continue with itching, pain, poor sleep and generally feeling sorry for myself.

 

I always reach for B vitamins when I feel run down - a bit of Marmite on your marvellous looking sourdough toast? A slow jog gets the feelgood chemicals in my brain going... Also extremely bright lights lifts mood, at this time of the year.

I always reach for B vitamins when I feel run down - a bit of Marmite on your marvellous looking sourdough toast? A slow jog gets the feelgood chemicals in my brain going... Also extremely bright lights lifts mood, at this time of the year.

 

8000Lux in my living room does the trick for mood That and coffee...

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news-understands

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news-understands

They are making a film about it:

 

Carrie on Partying

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news-understands

 

 

There's no such thing as a bad BJ

Do you think my Pilot's licence will qualify me to fly it?

It's for for a Land Yacht it's true, but they can be tricky!

 

That looks bonkers! I'd rather have a mishap windsailing, softer landing!

My children move to etoro.

They just set their account to 'copytrader' for the system to copy trades made by their favourite trader or traders. No need to spend time following the news.

 

Are they allowed to use Margin?

Are they allowed to use Margin?

No only butter in the Woosh household

Andrew bridgen on BBC: nobody misunderstood more the word party leader than Boris Johnson.

"After you, Claude—no, after you, Cecil"

 

 

Sue Gray partygate report 'set to be delayed until police investigation over'

 

 

Jessica Elgot

 

Sue Gray will not publish her inquiry until the Met police have concluded their investigation into alleged criminal activity in Downing Street, according to sources. The Met police confirmed that Gray had handed over her preliminary findings.

 

A Cabinet Office spokesman said work would continue on the inquiry. “The investigation being carried out by Sue Gray is continuing,” the spokesman said. “There is in ongoing contact with the Metropolitan police service.”