November 16, 20169 yr Must leap to defence of Woosh here. Bikes may be cheap, but my Woosh has proved to be very good and tough It has been said before, there is little benefit for the ebiker in spending a lot of money on expensive, high end components intended for racing. Caveat, that if you like off roading, then yes you will notice the benefit, but the shopper/ commuter, social domestic and pleasure rider will be perfectly happy with standard equipment. Sent by Biddy, my best carrier pigeon.
November 16, 20169 yr Must leap to defence of Woosh here. Bikes may be cheap, but my Woosh has proved to be very good and tough It has been said before, there is little benefit for the ebiker in spending a lot of money on expensive, high end components intended for racing. Caveat, that if you like off roading, then yes you will notice the benefit, but the shopper/ commuter, social domestic and pleasure rider will be perfectly happy with standard equipment. Sent by Biddy, best carrier pigeon. Which model are you riding Mike? sent via huawei P9
November 16, 20169 yr David, I emailed twice and left a note on fb but never received a reply from you, did u send to the right email? sent via huawei P9 Sorry Andy, please use david@amps.bike
November 16, 20169 yr Sorry Andy, please use david@amps.bike Ok The 806 se pics are great do you have any close ups of the 705 se? I'll mail you in a sec sent via huawei P9
November 16, 20169 yr Ok The 806 se pics are great do you have any close ups of the 705 se? I'll mail you in a sec sent via huawei P9 Here you go...
November 16, 20169 yr Here you go... [ATTACH=full]16396[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]16397[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]16398[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]16399[/ATTACH] Thanks, I've emailed you can u send quick reply? U better check your spam box its the second mail I've sent to that email address sent via huawei P9
November 16, 20169 yr The whisper isn't one of the premium bikes either. Just solid value with nice touches. Unfortunately the old premium standard has turned into an expensive heap of bovine what's it's. The Ktm's are very nice but way over the top for general pottering. I think woosh new skoda, whisper, ford, ktm.... Porsche so great fun unles you want to use for practical transport.
November 16, 20169 yr Here are some close ups of the gale, im not biased just helping you to make an educated decision. huawei P9 [mention=11721]poptop[/mention] those pictures are from a 2013 Gale, painted in silver. For a more up to date specification and pictures, follow this link: http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?gale
November 16, 20169 yr The whisper isn't one of the premium bikes either. Just solid value with nice touches. Unfortunately the old premium standard has turned into an expensive heap of bovine what's it's. The Ktm's are very nice but way over the top for general pottering. I think woosh new skoda, whisper, ford, ktm.... Porsche so great fun unles you want to use for practical transport. Great analogy sent via huawei P9
November 16, 20169 yr Hi Trex, I am sure Woosh bikes are are amazing. However other bikes are good too and some may have even better components. Your post did say belittling I read it as belting for some reason! Sorry about that!! All the best, David David, just for the record, I have posted nearly 8,000 times, during that time, not once, I have made disparaging remarks about your products, or anyone else's for that matter.
November 16, 20169 yr Author lol...alls well that ends well.... guys. you have made my post interesting reading. Thanks for photos Andy, did you take them? did you try the Gale?
November 16, 20169 yr David, just for the record, I have posted nearly 8,000 times, during that time, not once, I have made disparaging remarks about your products, or anyone else's for that matter. Great, thanks Trex! I will PM you. All the best David Edited November 16, 20169 yr by Wisper Bikes
November 16, 20169 yr lol...alls well that ends well.... guys. you have made my post interesting reading. Thanks for photos Andy, did you take them? did you try the Gale? No, I saw the photos on fb you can search fb for woosh. Trex said the ones he posted are newer so maybe better going from those. Ive ridden many electric bikes in China but none in the uk yet. I hope to soon. sent via huawei P9
November 16, 20169 yr Andy your looking at 705se, any reason for that? Trying to decide between the 705 se, Big Bear and Oxygen. Comparing components weighing up what I need to replace on each to give me the best deal. Not so much price point except the Oxygen is about £150 more. Its as you said earlier not easy to decide but arranging to test ride them all in one place not so easy unless in London. sent via huawei P9
November 16, 20169 yr do you have any negatives on the big bear? motor in front? Advantages and disadvantages. Please go to this page it is very informative. http://www.ebikeschool.com/front-hub-motors-vs-rear-hub-motors/ sent via huawei P9
November 16, 20169 yr Which model are you riding Mike? sent via huawei P9 The Gale. Sent by Biddy, my best carrier pigeon
November 16, 20169 yr Mike , would you buy the Gale again? any down points to it? cheers Pete You must understand that the Gale is my folding bike. I have another bike as well. Only downside to the Gale is that the motor tops out at 12mph. On the other hand it is a good climber, so it suits me just fine. It lives in the boot of my car, so that if I go to town, I can park on the outskirts and ride in. Also, it rides inside my Campervan and gets a lot of use (and abuse) when I go sailing.
November 16, 20169 yr thank you for your support, Mike. [mention=11721]poptop[/mention] The silver Gale had 10Ah battery and costs £549 if I remember correctly. The new Gale paintted in gunmetal, blue grey colour, now has 13Ah, can reach easily 15mph because the battery can support higher current, costs £749. If you need a higher speed folding biike, check out the £1,099 zephyr-B which has front and rear hydraulic brakes, Suntour XCM forks, 12AH battery and much more powerful motor. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/zephyr-b/zephyr-b.jpg
November 16, 20169 yr thank you for your support, Mike. [mention=11721]poptop[/mention] The silver Gale had 10Ah battery and costs £549 if I remember correctly. The new Gale paintted in gunmetal, blue grey colour, now has 13Ah, can reach easily 15mph because the battery can support higher current, costs £749. If you need a higher speed folding biike, check out the £1,099 zephyr-B which has front and rear hydraulic brakes, Suntour XCM forks, 12AH battery and much more powerful motor. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2017/zephyr-b/zephyr-b.jpg A folding FS eMTB, what ever next!
November 16, 20169 yr First time poster here and new to e-bikes . My experience is extremely limited but if your interested I'll give my thoughts . Poptop, I too was looking at a folder and looked into all the popular makes. Also looked at converting Brompton, dahon, tern etc. I weighed up all the options and read the reviews and trawled the forums . In the end it was information overload. The thing is each bike has its good and bad points. I didn't see a bike that ticked all my boxes. Anyway a kudos secret came up on eBay and I bought it . So my only experience with an e-bike is the 70 odd kilometres I've ridden the kudos . First thing being a 20 inch wheel makes it skittish . Don't get me wrong I have complete confidence when I'm riding it but just watch the curbs . The smaller wheel can catch you out . The small wheel coupled with no suspension can be a harsh ride and you do feel the bumps . I've bought some big apple tyres to see if that helps . Where I live here the roads are riddled with potholes so the hands and backside feel it . I did buy a different saddle and it's improved that aspect of the ride dramatically . The bike came with I think a 44 tooth chainring . I found that I was always out peddling myself . In order to slow the peddle rate down I upped the chainring to 52T. Much better but would be even better with a taller top gear . In fact where I ride a 3 speed hub would be more suitable for me as I rarely need to drop below 4th. The previous owner did less than 120km so the battery is practically new and it always surprises me how much energy it supplies . Mine has the 8ah but I think the newer version comes with a 11ah and 52T chainring as standard although I could be wrong. With full assist on and a general mix of gentle hills and the odd steep ones I can get about 25km (85kg + 5ft 10). If I'm prepared to work at it and with medium assist I get closer to 45km to 50km which for me is perfect . The V brakes are OK and offer adequate stopping power considering the limited top end speed . All in all I needed a folder so there was always going to be compromises but I'm pleased with bike and the distance limit isn't an issue for me . A taller top gear would be nice but considering the 20 inch wheel it's fast enough . I got the bike used and for a bargain price but would I have been happy to pay the full whack £750? Most probably but I don't think I'd be happy paying a grand for an electric folder . Peter Oh and btw my dilemma at the moment is 2.5 T4 caravelle or 1.9 T5 shuttle ! Edited November 16, 20169 yr by pgrange
November 17, 20169 yr Author Thanks so much for your reply, really appreciated from someone in a similar position. Firstly and most important don`t buy a T5 unless your heart is really set on it. They are know for mechanical issues, and very costly to repair. A T4 is much better, the last of the good VW campers. I found a 2002 one with all the works on it with only 42k on clock. They are around. Its slow 2.4d. engine but bullet proof. will last my lifetime. I could go on , and on having years of vw camper experience, but that's another story. Thanks for info about folders, the secret is in my opinion a lovely design and interesting to hear your comments on it. The Gale though is not as good looking does come with bigger tooth ring, fatter tyres etc so seems to fit the bill unless anyone else persuades me otherwise, and at roughlu750.00 with 13ah battery doesn't seem bad. [if you cough it out quickly] 5 years time as more come on the market I imagine demand will bring their prices down and manufacturers will have to reduce their profit margins to a sensible level. supply and demand stuff. Thanks again for commenting, not sure how you pm on here but if I can help with VW camper thoughts let me know. Pete.
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