June 15, 20178 yr Hi all, I'm on the search for my first e-bike and after a bit of research here on the forum I'm not sure which bike to pick: -Gtech Sport -Carrera Crossfire E -Oxigen S-Cross CB There is a bit of difference between the three models, The Gtech is the cheapest one, The Carrera is a bit more pricey but comes with disk brakes and a better battery, while the Oxigen is even better but again even more pricey. What would you pick and why?? Thanks guys!
June 15, 20178 yr Author Thanks LeighPing Anyone knows anywhere in London to try the oxigen? On the the downputting factors on the oxigne is the fact that I could not ride it yet. Also is there a huge difference between the Carrera and the Oxigen?
June 15, 20178 yr It's more my type of bike as well. I like cross country bikes and the oxygen's styling. The Oxydrive kit bike I bought off [mention=11625]STEVEMANFA[/mention] is spookily similar in it's setup. I'd pay for the extra battery power too.
June 15, 20178 yr Many people choose the Oxygen because they found out how to derestrict it for 26 mph, which is handy for commuting. The Oxygen MTB is a bit more expensive, but it's worth it for the superb handling and braking.
June 15, 20178 yr Author Hi D8veh, The derestrictment was one of the reason too, but on the same time would that be a double cutting edge shortening the battery life? I guess that in the end it's you who decide whether to use it or not... is the Oxigen available only through E-bikedirect? Is the website trustworthy? They even have an ex-display one for 150 quid less, but I wonder if it's best to go for a proper new one.
June 15, 20178 yr Not sure the parameters of your choice options. But our latest Kudos Mistral is selling very well if it's a mountain style bike you are considering. KudosDave
June 15, 20178 yr Author More for an hybrid style, the stealth look nice though. Can you play with the speed limit for private land use with your bikes?
June 15, 20178 yr Gtech small ah battery, single gearing, hill climbing ? Carrera Xfire a Halfords special. No one has idea about derestriction ( too scared to get the spanner out ), Battery/ power loss faults as reported by owner. Oxygen well regarded sellers of good quality bikes, good speed and powerful with bafang hubs. Better components and nice looking.
June 15, 20178 yr Author Looks like an easy pick then. I've tried the Carrera and it was really nice, anyone who tried both of them? Basically I would pay the carrera 1100 compared to 1400 for the Oxigen. the Oxigen is a better model, but is it worth 300 quid more in your opinion? Also have you ever bought anything on "e-bikesdirect"?
June 15, 20178 yr Hi D8veh, The derestrictment was one of the reason too, but on the same time would that be a double cutting edge shortening the battery life? I guess that in the end it's you who decide whether to use it or not... is the Oxigen available only through E-bikedirect? Is the website trustworthy? They even have an ex-display one for 150 quid less, but I wonder if it's best to go for a proper new one. It will hardly affect the battery at all because the current goes down the faster you go. Maximum current comes at low speed when you're climbing. Also, the Oxygen has independent power control, so you can have the higher speed limit with reduced power. There are 18 combinations of speed and power control: 6 for speed and 3 for power.
June 15, 20178 yr Looks like an easy pick then. I've tried the Carrera and it was really nice, anyone who tried both of them? Basically I would pay the carrera 1100 compared to 1400 for the Oxigen. the Oxigen is a better model, but is it worth 300 quid more in your opinion? Also have you ever bought anything on "e-bikesdirect"? My reason for choosing the Oxygen would be that it uses standard Chinese parts, so spares will never be a problem. You can mix and match motors, controllers and batteries, so you don't need to rely on expensive OEM parts. The Carrera has a locked system. You can only get spares from Halfords. You'll have to pay whatever they charge, though their prices are not that expensive at the moment. One other point in favour of the Oxygen: It comes with a self-fit throttle. A throttle is generally not necessary, but it can be extremely useful at times. I wouldn't want an e-bike without a throttle. I've been saved at least three times by having one: One time my pedal/crank came loose so I couldn't pedal; another time I fell off and banged my knee so that I couldn't pedal; and last week I had a bad foot, which stopped me from pedalling. I couldn't use my car either and I needed to get to the doctor.
June 15, 20178 yr Author That's a good info about the bike, first time I heard of it. Thanks a lot! One last thing, I'll be doing 11miles+11miles a day, is it worth to take the 13ah instead of the 10.4ah? Does a bigger AH mean better durability as well?
June 15, 20178 yr The bigger battery is always better. You get more power and longer life as well as longer range. The larger capacity might be useful if you want to go fast. 10.4 Ah would be OK for an average speed of about 14 mph.
June 15, 20178 yr Author Thanks a lot! I can see that the Oxigen has a lot of pros after all. Thanks all for the help!
June 15, 20178 yr It's my favourite bike in that price range. My local ebike shop sells more of them than anything else by quite a margin. The demo bike is derestricted when the customers ask, which is nearly every time. They have a massive private car-park to test the bikes.
June 16, 20178 yr Looks like an easy pick then. I've tried the Carrera and it was really nice, anyone who tried both of them? Basically I would pay the carrera 1100 compared to 1400 for the Oxigen. the Oxigen is a better model, but is it worth 300 quid more in your opinion? Also have you ever bought anything on "e-bikesdirect"? I have tried the Carrera and Oxygen, I bought the Oxygen.
June 16, 20178 yr If you do go for the oxygen, it might be worth looking at the S-cross MTB purely for the better brakes. You can add mudguards and rack after
June 22, 20178 yr ebikes direct were good when I bought from them and again when I bought another battery. There was a thread recently and I don't think anyone said anything bad about them.
June 27, 20178 yr Author The bike has finally arrived, can't wait to test it tomorrow! I'll let you know my first impressions
June 30, 20178 yr I live in a very hilly area close to the Peak District I had the Gtech but returned it because it would not get me up hills and with no gears its very limited , went to Halfords and bought the Crossfire (got it for £800.00 with the offer they had at the time ) It tackles the hills with no problems I have been very happy with it so far , just an annoying click noise coming from the drive train that Halfords have not been able to sort yet .
July 3, 20178 yr Author After a week with the s-cross cb, I can definitely say that is worth it's money. I've tried the carrera as well, and as a term of comparison I can say that the engine of the carrera felt a little bit more powerfull, but maybe it's just because the s-cross is a little bit more heavy. On all the rest the s-cross win. It's more comfortable, the power settings are more "advanced" and this alone is worth the bigger price tag. Battery life looks decent, using the 35km/h speed limit allow me to ride for 25 miles and still be on 34.5v. The only thing that I still have not figured out is the cutoff of the battery. Is it 32v or 30v??
July 3, 20178 yr I did 37miles in a hilly area and was on 35v or 36v and one bar lit, I can't remember exactly, I am not sure what it would be when completely flat, did you start at 41.5v, that's maximum for me when fully recharged.
July 3, 20178 yr Author Almost the same, max 41.5, got flat at 33.5, and the range was more or less 30 miles I would say, maybe 33-34 max. Discovered it the bad way, with 5 miles left and a massive hill to ride xD
July 3, 20178 yr The only thing that I still have not figured out is the cutoff of the battery. Is it 32v or 30v?? 30/32v is a bit low unless you are doing a discharge test. most 46v batteries will have lvc at or above 33v. My Oxydrive's are at 33.5 when lvc kicks in though will recover by about 0.5 - 0.7v once cooled this is normal as a fail safe to prevent over discharge of cells.
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