August 18, 20187 yr The Woosh Karoo 2108, is that now have built in frame battery and hydraulic brakes ? Your good in the photo but not easy to tell from that. Your website is still showing the old model?
August 18, 20187 yr The Woosh Karoo 2108, is that now have built in frame battery and hydraulic brakes ? Your good in the photo but not easy to tell from that. Your website is still showing the old model? yes, that correct. The new Karoo has in-frame battery and hydraulic brakes. The aim is still the same, the Karoo is for people who like to pedal a lot, that means a light and stiff frame, skinny tyres and stealthy motor. The main difference is the new one has a torque sensor in the bottom bracket. I fit mudguards and rack in advance because most people want mudguards - if they don't want the rack, it's easier to take it out and put it in the shed than wait for it to come when you need it.
August 18, 20187 yr (...Woosh Karoo 2108... website is still showing the old model?) yes, that correct. The new Karoo has in-frame battery and hydraulic brakes. I really like the look and concept of your new Karoo. Really does look great! Let us know when you put up more info on it. PS - all the mainstream manufacturers are gearing up and announcing next years models now. Shouldn't you call the new bike the Karoo 2019 ? Gives you another year of longevity as well
August 18, 20187 yr I really like the look and concept of your new Karoo. Really does look great! Let us know when you put up more info on it. PS - all the mainstream manufacturers are gearing up and announcing next years models now. Shouldn't you call the new bike the Karoo 2019 ? Gives you another year of longevity as well may have to. the rules about circumvention is such that customs and excise can say that the shipment is in fact a knock down kit or semi knock down kit and charge me anti dumping levy. It is already very messy to dismantle ready made bikes back to parts and I can't ship those parts together. When parts are shipped as LCL (less than a container load), the shipment has to be handed over to consolidators, causing unpredictable delays. It will take a few months to get organised, so, yeah, it is possible that the new Karoo will be delayed until November/December so should be re-christened Karoo 2019.
August 18, 20187 yr Author we sell directly without dealers although we can arrange for a local bike shop to look after your bike. Hi Tony Nearly there.....think I’ll be ordering a Rio FB,but can you enlarge on the ongoing care of the Rio re your comments”we can arrange with a local bike shop to look after your bike” ?
August 18, 20187 yr re your comments”we can arrange with a local bike shop to look after your bike” ? Hi Ken, most of our customers can look after their bikes, from simple things like fixing punctures, to replacing brake pads and tightening up spokes. Some don't have that ability, however, the bikes still need looking after. Yet, if you can't fix a puncture yourself, then who will do it for you? we therefore contact a local bike shop, they can set up the bike for you and look after it. You will have to pay for their time but if you use your bike for commuting, it's your transport, you want it reliable. We can only do so much at the factory side, like fitting puncture resistant kevlar tyres or Marathon Plus for those who ask for them, sell you replacement brake blocks and pads and give you a free spoke key. That's why we always talk at length with customers to make sure that all angles are covered. If they buy online, we need a phone number to have that chat before delivery. Edited August 18, 20187 yr by Woosh
August 18, 20187 yr yes, that correct. The new Karoo has in-frame battery and hydraulic brakes. The aim is still the same, the Karoo is for people who like to pedal a lot, that means a light and stiff frame, skinny tyres and stealthy motor. The main difference is the new one has a torque sensor in the bottom bracket. I fit mudguards and rack in advance because most people want mudguards - if they don't want the rack, it's easier to take it out and put it in the shed than wait for it to come when you need it. I really does look great, the most stealthy hybrid/flat bar communter I've seen. Be interested in the specs (battery size, motor torque etc)..hope it has a low profile lcd too
February 16, 20197 yr I purchased a Whoosh Rio, to replace an illegal e bike. The Rio is our 4th ebike. Without a doubt it is the best e bike I have ever bought. I much prefer this Chinese hub machine to the bosch crank motors. Fitted a suspension seat post rack and panniers. It rides as smooth as a gilded lily floating on a pond. I am too busy enjoying the bike to write a full review.
February 16, 20197 yr This post just reminded of that picture of the 2018 Karoo, all stealth and non ebike looking...Woosh what happened to that?, did you sell any and any update if still selling them on prices/specs, it looked like a winner in the pics
February 16, 20197 yr I really does look great, the most stealthy hybrid/flat bar communter I've seen. Be interested in the specs (battery size, motor torque etc)..hope it has a low profile lcd too battery: 36V 8AH Samsung cells motor: Aikema torque: 45NM LCD: none. It's possible to add an LCD but you need a Y-splitter. This post just reminded of that picture of the 2018 Karoo, all stealth and non ebike looking...Woosh what happened to that?, did you sell any and any update if still selling them on prices/specs, it looked like a winner in the pics Since the anti-dumping levy, we have to assemble bikes ourselves in Southend so the new Karoo is delayed until the summer. I still ride the preproduction bike around in Southend. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2019/karoo/karoo.jpg
February 19, 20197 yr battery: 36V 8AH Samsung cells motor: Aikema torque: 45NM LCD: none. It's possible to add an LCD but you need a Y-splitter. Since the anti-dumping levy, we have to assemble bikes ourselves in Southend so the new Karoo is delayed until the summer. I still ride the preproduction bike around in Southend. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2019/karoo/karoo.jpg What is the weight of that whoosh?
February 19, 20197 yr What is the weight of that whoosh? battery: 1.2kg http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2019/ts/battery.jpg
February 19, 20197 yr battery: 1.2kg http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2019/ts/battery.jpg Sorry my iPad has a spasm and quoted the wrong the post. I meant the weight of the entire bike.
February 19, 20197 yr @whoosh Looking to upgrade the gtech at some point this year. Would you ever consider having a no gears bike for weight purposes?
February 19, 20197 yr Sorry my iPad has a spasm and quoted the wrong the post. I meant the weight of the entire bike. As it is, 16kg. if you pare it down (I have fitted lightweight pedals and mudguards but the saddle is heavy), you can get to 15kgs with the 45NM Aikema motor. If you replace the motor with the lighter SX100, you can shed another 1.1kg. @whoosh Would you ever consider having a no gears bike for weight purposes? Not really. You need the gears to change the amount of assist because of the torque sensor. There are lightweight cassettes if you want to shave some extra weight. If you want something light, it may be better to convert an 8kg bike with the 2.6kg CD Gospade and a 1.2kg bag battery.
February 19, 20197 yr As it is, 16kg. if you pare it down (I have fitted lightweight pedals and mudguards but the saddle is heavy), you can get to 15kgs with the 45NM Aikema motor. If you replace the motor with the lighter SX100, you can shed another 1.1kg. Not really. You need the gears to change the amount of assist because of the torque sensor. There are lightweight cassettes if you want to shave some extra weight. If you want something light, it may be better to convert an 8kg bike with the 2.6kg CD Gospade and a 1.2kg bag battery. Thank you. I've seen the bag ones. Not really interested tbh. Not sure I want that weight at the front. 16kg is just fine. You say the summer is when these are available? Can I ask what is the range. Have you tried the gtech and how does it compare? I like the look of this bike. I like the juicy new ones as well. But would love to do business with someone I 'know' if you know what I mean. What price do these retail at? I also see on your website that the big bear has reviews that say its like a moped. I love that but it will just make me lazy. I like the idea of some effort. How does this compare with that? I'm 6' 4" and just under 100kg. Will your new one fit me?
February 19, 20197 yr range: about 35 miles. Gtech: I only rode the old Gtech Sport. The new Karoo is more comfortable. Weight and power: about the same. The Karoo has hydraulic brakes and 8-speed gears. I'm 6' 4" and just under 100kg. Will your new one fit me? yes.
May 13, 20196 yr Hi everyone. I’ve been looking at the Woosh Karoo but then I saw that pick a few posts back. Is that the new model Karoo? If so then what’s the update on when it will be available to buy? Thanks.
May 13, 20196 yr Hi OldManToy, the new Karoo has been delayed until the Autumn, but the torque sensor kit that is used on this bike will be offered for sale at the end of the month. Sorry for the delay. It was planned before the EU imposed 43% anti-dumping on Chinese e-bikes, forcing us to assemble our bikes in Southend. As it's a slow learning process, we can only assemble one more model every other month. The kit parts arrive on May 25th, with 36V 13AH small frog battery for £499, optional LCD £40.
May 13, 20196 yr Ah, thanks for that. I tried an Orbea Gain locally the other day and after lots of research quite favour the hidden battery style. You mention the availability of the kit but the special frame to slot the battery in is another matter, I guess I'll have to wait but I'm an impatient so and so! Will there be a point where you have all the parts in in Southend and could sell the whole lot unassembled? Or at least frameset and ebike bits? I'm fine building standard bikes.
May 13, 20196 yr Will there be a point where you have all the parts in in Southend and could sell the whole lot unassembled? Or at least frameset and ebike bits? I'm fine building standard bikes. we usually import x whole sets of components, so can't sell the bike without the electrical parts. There are small bottles and bag batteries you can buy on aliexpress for standard road bikes. Here are some that you can get from UPP (unit pack power): https://uppbattery.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-810194528/Unique_design_Ebike_Battery.html You can build a nice sub 14kg bike with a torque sensor kit (3.5kgs) and a 36V 10.5AH small bottle (10S3P 1.5kgs).
May 13, 20196 yr Okay, I'll look out for those on your site. I'd still prefer that special down tube that takes a battery but those bottle kits look interesting. I saw the Cytronix C1 on the web but it's sooo expensive!
May 13, 20196 yr there are many differences between the Carrera and the Rio MTB: - fork: the Rio has much lighter RST 100mm Omega fork compared to the Carrera 75mm Suntour SRNVX - crankset: the Rio has modern light and strong GXP crankset with external ballbearings, the Crossfire has old style square taper. - battery: the Rio has 13AH or 17AH, the Carerra 11.6AH - motor: the Rio has larger motor. - controller: the Rio has 17A controller, the Carerra 15A - LCD: the Rio has 5 assist levels, with user settable profile for each, the Carerra has 4 fixed levels. - the Rio has a throttle, lights, bell and mudguards. Regardless of hill gradients, you have to keep pedaling with the Carerra, more if the hill is steeper, you pedal as much as you like with the Rio. The main difference is that the Rio won't cut out in you regularly and at really annoying times for you entire period of ownership! 'It is known' that you should stay well away from the Crossfire. The Crossfuse is a good bike if you can get it for around £1300 in a sale mind. Unless you definitely want a torque mid drive (like the Bosch ALP) and have the money to buy one then Woosh (or similar Brit assemblers) are a good bet.
May 14, 20196 yr Will the new Karoo support someone who is 100kg? The website suggest the big bear. But I'd still like a bike that looks like a bike. Hence I'd like the Karoo. But I don't want something that is less powerful than the Gtech. Edit. Will the new improvement in late May help?
May 15, 20196 yr Will the new Karoo support someone who is 100kg? The website suggest the big bear. But I'd still like a bike that looks like a bike. Hence I'd like the Karoo. But I don't want something that is less powerful than the Gtech. Edit. Will the new improvement in late May help? yes. It has an Aikema motor with 45NM torque.
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